Phasing.. IT WORKS!!!

[Inico]

Well, I'm glad then - it shows that I'm on the right track if phasing eliminates them for me.

But how can phasing into another focus be subtle? Does that mean I won't even notice if I manage at first? 

[sahgwa]

I find it fascinating that recently, like the past 2 or 3 weeks only people are having astral projections for the first time all over the place.
People that have been trying for years, and people that arent even trying are having htem.I  wonder why this is all of a sudden.
My personal experience was after trying for about 2 yrs to AP or about 1 yr of serious weekly practice and only having partial separation, or full separation but being blind,
the last week in April I finally had a perfect one with full tactile and sight etc.
The funny thing about it is like a lot of people here I wasnt trying that day. It must have been subconscious.
What happened was I lay back after reading around 7pm on the bed to just rest my eyse for a while.
As I felt myself fall asleep right before I would have lost awareness I felt my energy body shifting or wobbling back and forth in a left to right to left etc motion. It started by itself and once I noticed it I pushed it harder and then suddenly found myself outside my body standing up. It was awesome. Iwas able to hold it for about 5 minutes of moving around in the room.
But ever since then I cant do it again, at least not yet
Its like maybe i am trying too hard. I remember that I did it when I just let go, so when I try that way too I Just fall asleep.
Such a hard balance@!
BUt im glad i finally had my first real one!
i wonder why everyone else is suddenly too? but im happy , as long as I can do it again soon.

[Inico]

Maybe managing is making you try too hard again. It seems to be the biggest obstacle; trying too hard. The closest I've come to projecting, and actually feeling myself getting lifted out of my body - it's happened when I was on the brink of sleep, once I'm nearly out of it and would have stopped 'trying'. And in those moments, it feels like all the silly things I do to 'try' and project are all so physical they really have nothing to do with the actual process itself.

[Yuki Ginhakushoku]

In my opinion (and somewhat based upon my personal experiences), excessive effort does the same good as not trying it at all... Every time I tried to force my exit, it failed, no matter how much I kept on trying... But, if I forgot about my attempt, and allowed me to wander through my thoughts and/or dreams, without any actual, excessive effort, I could begin wandering about...

I guess the nature of some of our attempts is mere ritual, and has no effect in our progress, just as you just said... Maybe it is that the practice itself is so simple it somehow escapes our expectations, 'cause we relate the fact with a difficulty level which possibly is not related at all...

Be it so, the "whys" are still unanswered questions... Why is it so simple for some and so difficult for others...? Does it have to do with our personal appreciation or personal reality...? Probably, it does..; who knows...? Anyway, I think I'm now wandering too much around the thought (common issue...)

Sayonara...

[risiak77]

Hi all,

Just a quick one... I discovered about astral travelling few weeks ago. I've tried it on my 1st night and felt a vibrations and fast heartbeat. I was scared and stop immediately. Since there I've been trying it for last two weeks with no luck...

Any ideas what am I doing wrong?  I don't have fear anymore and looking forward to it.....


Thank you for your answers....

[missym]

I don't think you're doing anything wrong..
Most people have little progress or no progress within the first (at LEAST) 3-4 months.. Be patient, don't expect results overnight. Your body is probably getting used to the build-up of so much more energy than it's used to, and the extra senses.

[risiak77]

Thx a lot missym. One of my biggest problems is noise. Every little thing distract me and is hard to concentrate on OBE during the day, but I am learning... I've got one more question. Is it possible to project while listening hemisync on mp3 player?

Thx again for your time.

[Yuki Ginhakushoku]

I guess it is possible... After all, music is an "attention magnet", as well as a relaxing and focusing agent... But, not all music does this, and not all music does it in the same manner... Most of them exploit the usage of the senses to achieve the result expected by the artist, which is normally to feel what he or she felt... Some of them, particularly instrumental or classical music, use this principle quite effectively, and, in my opinion, are the best possible options...

On the other hand, if the main issue is the focus, you should "focus" on your focus... Start practicing focus enhancing techniques like focusing on a spot for as long as you can without thinking about anything else or gazing at the clouds doing the same... Most techniques work this way: concentrate your attention on a single, easy to perform task, and allow yourself not to think on anything else... This helps your focus and will start allowing you to last longer without wandering about again, which is quite useful when the objective is to focus only on a single task and ignore all the rest...

Hope this helps ya...

Sayonara...

[Selea]

Maybe managing is making you try too hard again. It seems to be the biggest obstacle; trying too hard. The closest I've come to projecting, and actually feeling myself getting lifted out of my body - it's happened when I was on the brink of sleep, once I'm nearly out of it and would have stopped 'trying'. And in those moments, it feels like all the silly things I do to 'try' and project are all so physical they really have nothing to do with the actual process itself.

However that "trying too hard" is what brings you to the experience. Letting go is an important part, but the subconscious must be trained somewhat. In reality the most important work in all these disciplines is what it seems at first sight unimportant. One thinks for example that "exit" techniques are the most important aspect of the work, instead is the "previous" work, or what the "exit" techniques trains that it's important, not the same.

If you don't do anything at all you can "let go" how much you want, it will not happen, at last if your subconscious isn't already trained on how to bring the consciousness in that other "bodies" for various motives. However for the majority of people this connection must be build.

This is one of the motive for example why people try for 4-5 months and then one day they discover to their amazement that they can do it without understanding really what's changed. Usually this happens after a period of time where everything seems to not work at all and you are on the verge of giving up. The usual "IAO" formula. And sometimes people mistakes what's really happen for "letting go". While it is true in part is not the full reality of what's really happening.

[Inico]

Selea has voiced my mind completely. I recently became 'aware' of the part my subconscious plays - and how things that I used to struggle to induce, such as trance, now happen automatically. My subconscious takes over.

So really, it's training - and then letting the subconscious play it's part once it knows what to 'feel out'. That's what I assume, anyway.

[Eyyoshi]

at which point I moved my area of awareness from my eye view to right infront of me. As soon as I moved my awareness

Can you elaborate, I'm dieing to know how to do this as well!

o.o

[SkepticBoy]

what exactly do you focus on inducing when you are gazing into your own darkness behind your eyes during phasing? what should you be focusing on exactly.

[mels8780]

Oh wow...I think I'm going to try that. Thanks for sharing!

[lightlady]

I will try too Phasing looks like fun and maybe easier then what i have been trying. 

[Xanth]

what exactly do you focus on inducing when you are gazing into your own darkness behind your eyes during phasing? what should you be focusing on exactly.

Nothing and everything. 
I'll take an excerpt from Franks Phasing Resource:

People often tell me that they keep trying and they are saying about how they are concentrating upon holding their awareness outside of themselves, and at the same time they are concentrating on "raising energy" and doing everything correctly, and whatever... but nothing is happening. That's right, because all their attention is fixated elsewhere, whereas all my attention is fixated on noticing.

Noticing what?

Well, nothing at first, there's not much to see really but blackness. But then, after a short while, I may see that perhaps one part of the blackness is not quite so black. Perhaps there was just a brief flash of something, then maybe a sensation of a movement somewhere else. Maybe I just heard someone call my name. Hmm, that's interesting, I might think, I wonder where that came from. But I don't get too curious I just keep noticing. I might see swirling areas of not quite so black as the rest. I might see flashes of this and that. As I am offering myself these images, my attention is steadily becoming more fixated within.

Hope that helps

~Ryan

[sola~]

I guess copy and pasting is cool, Frank's resource btw is a very vague summary, there is so much more on the details in his posts.

The Noticing exercise is for complete beginners. It gets people used to simply looking within themselves. If you got the first issue of my newsletter then you will have read about how I made
this particular point that everything you want to do, Phasing or otherwise, is all WITHIN you. Some people have been so used to in some way "exteriorising" their awareness trying to "obe" in a conventional sense they simply cannot get to grips with the creating of a mental rundown thing. They need a little practice first just learning how to look within themselves. So that‟s when I recommend the Noticing exercise. At first, people close their eyes and all they see is blackness. Unfortunately, this can put people off thinking they are never going to do it. When I close my eyes all I see is blackness at first. But if people learn to actually notice what is taking place they may see that one area of black is not quite so black as the rest. Then they may kind of sense something. Then there might be a little fleeting something or other that just passed by. Perhaps a swirl of colour, maybe you just heard a sound, or think you heard a sound but it‟s confusing because you didn‟t hear it with your ears. Perhaps you just heard your name. Then maybe there was a flash, or was there? Now there‟s that sound again. And there‟s this swirling purple colour with a hint of yellow and red in the middle. Now someone‟s singing something... at which point people tend to get overwhelmed thinking, "Hey, I‟m doing it! I‟m doing it!" Then they get zapped right out of the state, all excited realising that it‟s working for them. Eventually, people get to the stage where they see what is commonly called "hypnogogic imagery" (this is the Monroe Focus 12 state). Many people ask me, "What do I see?" Well, at first all I see is blackness. But as my eyes and face start to relax I see a light in my mind. It is in an upwards direction, almost straight up but cranked back a bit. It‟s not a pinpoint light like a torch, it is more like an area of light, like a light-grey/white cloudy area. I focus my attention on this cloudy area and after about 10 or 15 minutes it‟s like the cloud descends on me and I‟m surrounded by this grey/white cloud. At this point I‟m almost at the stage where I have made the switch. Once I make the switch, the whiteness generally changes to swirling clouds of colour. Then there is a feeling of forwards movement for a second or two, at which point I emerge into the 3D-Blackness at the Monroe Focus 21 state (or Fz of the Phasing Model). I rarely have to do any kind of mental rundown from the physical, as I have now found that "point" in my mind where my "connection" is. So now all I need to do is look to that. If I want to transition to Focus 2 then I will think of going through a mental rundown at Fz and I‟ll immediately transition to Focus 2.

[mels8780]

I'm going to admit I don't know the differences between F1oc, F2oc or F3oc, or basically any of the terms used with phasing.. sort of a n00b to this lol  I will check out the link you sent me though 35 (your username is too long)
I think the key here was really not trying.. just letting it happen.
Even before when I thought I was not trying, I was inadvertently trying 

Lol I don tknow the terms either I was just saying something about that...is the link you're talking about to explain the terms or something? if so can I have it?

[Xanth]

Lol I don tknow the terms either I was just saying something about that...is the link you're talking about to explain the terms or something? if so can I have it?

http://www.astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html
You want to read that.
As Sola said though, it's really just a primer for beginners more than anything.
But he does go into pretty good detail regarding all of *his* Focus Levels and how they equate to the Monroe Focus Levels.

~Ryan