I think I need some serious help... please.

[omcasey]

Her sickness consists of constant fainting, all her joints locking and hurting, and stomach, head and back pains. She also has her mucles spasm, and she cannot control them. Doctors have tried everything to help her and have had no luck diagnosing her with anything.

She is Christian, very Christian. She once was a Sunday school teacher. She had to stop work when she got sick, and now she is on a disability benefit. I have suggested she asks God or the Archangel for help. I just hope that it helps her.

I think I understand what you are saying. I will suggest her to call for help using your advice. But I fear that maybe she doesn't want help, because she doesn't want to believe that anything is wrong, even though she most likely knows it is. Could this energy that is tormenting her be Legion? Or just a hateful spirit? Can just bring positive energy around get rid of it permanently? I fear she will be hurt, or worse. She will not give up AP no matter how much I tell her to.

SYS,

Conventional doctors are not equipped to diagnose Spiritual emergence/y.  Often, as the main thing they do, they end up prescribing medication, which in most cases serves to make the situation worse.  It is fortunate indeed if this has not happened.  If you search the web you will find there are many thousands of us waking up to a wider reality, and that in many of our cases it is not the consciousness alone that is involved in this process but the physical body as well.  When the body is involved, the awakening is often referred to as a Kundalini awakening.  The body, composed of (highly) conscious wave particles, itself undergoes a process of transformation by which it is increasing able to receive and radiate more light.

If you think in terms of a lightbulb, prior to the onset of this process, your wife, similar to the majority of us was capable of receiving and radiating the equivalent of 100 watts -(just an analogy).  What is happening now, is that a whole lot more than this is endeavoring to come through.  This is not a bad thing, it is what we have come here for- in your language (perhaps), to realize God, to let His love/light flow through us into all that is.  However, the body which is accustomed to receiving and radiating only 100 watts, necessarily must ungergo a transmutation whereby it is capable of receiving and radiating the higher wattage.  In my view, this is what you are witnessing right now.  

Your wife, as she knows is not sick, she is acclimating to the new inflow as fast and well as she is able.  But just like the 100 watt bulb, when subjected to 250 watts, exhibits the initial signs of stress, so too is she.  This is why she must be let to continue, and where your support is much needed, as not continuing is not an option as I suspect she knows.  There is nothing in this process to fear, but through it a person WILL come across all their fears, and transmute them.  This too is a part of the process and I've absolute, full confidence in your wife's ability to do this.  I feel it is very good you are reaching to others who are undergoing this same thing.  You will find the varying ways in which it gets filtered and a veritable kaleidoscope of ideas and experiences from which you will receive what you do.  Always it will be what you need.



For now a couple more links--

The involuntary spasms you mention are sometimes referred to as kundalini kriyas,
with my friend, Karen, they are quite intense, this is the gist of hers
http://www.youtube.com/omcasey1#p/c/E4A86CE68C7A3EF4/16/zCQFSwkvwUc

Bits of my own journey, self discovering the relationship between kundalini and astral travel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf2YxvXyeCY

[Save Your Servant]

I know I am very late with this reply. But things have gotten very bad. My wife, shortly after I asked for help from a doctors, priests and spiritualists, recovered a little. The spirit that called itself Legion seemed to have left. At least for a very long time. About 2 weeks ago however, things got extremely bad and even right now my wife is extremely sick. She has fainted over 20 times in the past week, twitching, and claiming to be someone else. I got particularly worried last night, when she was twitching a lot screaming things such as "please stop, it hurts! make it stop". She was practically begging me to AP to where she is to help her. But I didn't know how. In between her pleads she was making sounds that I immediately thought were "orgasmic". When she regained consciousness, I asked her what happened and she said she didn't know. But she said she was in agony and even after waking up today, was still sore. It was early this morning when she blacked out again and reminicent of last time, spoke to me as someone else. I asked who it was, and it said it's name was Al - haz - ad. (i do not want to type its name properly). I asked it what happened and it said it raped my wife. It also threatened me. I am very afraid, and again, I have asked my wife to leave AP behind her but she insists on going back there. When I asked her who this spirit was she claimed it asked her to go to it. And she refuses to stop going there. Her sickenss has gotten very bad and now I have started getting extremely sick too. Please someone help me. This is so far out of my understanding. What should I do?

[Dazino]

First off, calm down. These seem like very stressing, mind wracking occurrences, and you must be going through a lot. Try to clear your mind first; you cannot truly help your wife if you worry about her so much. You have to be in a state of clarity to feel and understand what your wife is going through. Do not be afraid, focus on your love for her, not your worry.

As there are countless ways to answer your pleas for help, and not many I feel you would be comfortable taking, I'd like to ask you some questions.

Why does your wife refuse help? With both her becoming sick, and you becoming sick, why does she deny that something is wrong?

What kind of "spiritual" help did you seek?

Would you be willing to learn how to sense and use spiritual energy? About what you said earlier; the various planes of what is, are not separated. They are intertwined. We are not apart from them in any way.

How do you ask for help from whichever entities/guardians you prefer? How do you pray for help?

Also, how are you getting sick? Please explain more whenever you use this word, as it can clear up a lot of questions.

[Save Your Servant]

Why does your wife refuse help? With both her becoming sick, and you becoming sick, why does she deny that something is wrong?

This is something that I do not understand. I have asked her countless times, and she always replies with simply "I'm not giving up AP for anyone. I have a life there too". I once suggested maybe it's AP that is making her sick and she accused me of just saying it because I didn't want her to do it anymore.

What kind of "spiritual" help did you seek?

After doctors failed to help her, I first went to a priest. Scarily, he was not extremely helpful. I asked what I should do after explaining everything to him. His advice was simply to stay away from her until she helps herself, saying that "if she loves you, she will stop going to these spirit worlds and heal herself". This made me very sad, I expected more. So I went to a white witch who believed my wife to be suffering from multiple personality disorder, not a spirtual problem at all. However, my wife refuses mental help and got hurt when I mentioned it once. She basically thought I was calling her mad. She even stopped talking to me for a few days under the belief that I insulted her, when I did not. I just wanted to help her.

Would you be willing to learn how to sense and use spiritual energy? About what you said earlier; the various planes of what is, are not separated. They are intertwined. We are not apart from them in any way.

Yes... I would do absolutely anything to help my wife. I love her more than anything, and will do whatever it takes to get these horrible entites away from her forever. But I do not know where to begin.

How do you ask for help from whichever entities/guardians you prefer? How do you pray for help?

I have prayed for help in many different ways. I have prayed on knees, sitting down, standing up, all with hands together. I have even had a priest pray for her with me, several times, and had her name placed in the service with the other prayers. Other times I have tried praying cross legged and hands together. I have prayed to God, Michael, Germaine and countless others.

Also, how are you getting sick?

Recently whenever my wife gets sick I get sick also, having almost exactly the same symptoms which include fainting, stomach back and head pains, throwing up and also extremely bad luck such as injuring myself the same times she does. I have been unable to move for two days due to all my joints locking and this only happens during an episode. When she is AP'ing and the sickest I got was when this "thing" said it raped her. I have been suffering extreme dizzyness and hot and cold ffluhes also.

I pray someone can help us. At least help my wife... she is more important to me than anything.

[Lexy]

Does your wife even want help?

[Jarrod]

I hope this doesn't sound offensive, but if she doesn't believe what you're telling her about what happens to her during her episodes and doesn't admit to herself that there is a problem, maybe you could video record her during one of her episodes and then show it to her afterwards.  Realizing that the problem exists has to be the first step in fixing it.  Also, may I suggest that you not try to persuade her to stop APing.  It seems to drive a wedge between you because she's determined not to and if you're going to help her you need to be on the same team together in this and as close as you can be.  Plus, I think the root of the problem is something in her subconscious and her spiritual openness and belief system have facilitated it.  I don't think her stopping astral projecting would necessarily solve the problem.

[Dazino]

Ok. Well, from what it sounds like, your relationship with your wife sounds somewhat fractured. This is not meant to be offensive at all, it is only what I am taking from what you tell me. It sounds like there is a large gap between you, with little communication that can get through.

If your lover and companion will not listen to what you tell them, and at least try to understand where you are coming from, there is a problem with trust.

Do not try to convince your wife to stop her projections. It is a spiritual practice, that is important to her, and asking her to stop projecting would be like asking you to stop believing in god. It is not the projections that harm her, rather, negative energies, and her seemingly odd attraction to them.

You mentioned that the current "Possessing spirit" called to her, and she simply went. There is a problem in this, how did it call her? Did she simply go to it, willingly, with no caution, accept it into herself? Is she being responsible with her projections?

What is she doing along the other planes? Is she simply exploring, or is there something she is seeking, something she is practicing?

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Yes, many priests are not very helpful in matters such as these. You will find very few who understand spiritual practices such as projecting, and even fewer who know how to help those who use them. It sounds like you put a lot of faith in the priest, I am sorry he could not help you more.

His advice seems ill-advised. Do not separate or distance yourself from your wife when she needs your help.

During your prayer, is your mind clear? Do you separate yourself from your identity and try to connect with the divine (In your case, God)? Or do you retain your self, and send the prayer from your own identity? What has the response been? The feelings while you pray? 

I will attempt to help you better understand spiritual energies and how to work with them, to help your wife, but I would prefer to do it over private messages rather than on the open forums. If this is what you want, then please send me a message.

[Kestrel]

Well,there is Tom Campbell with his large experience in this stuff,maybe you can contact him on his-My big toe forum,for advice,just a thought.

[Save Your Servant]

You mentioned that the current "Possessing spirit" called to her, and she simply went. There is a problem in this, how did it call her? Did she simply go to it, willingly, with no caution, accept it into herself? Is she being responsible with her projections?

This might sound crazy, but this spirit began to "post" on her website, calling her by a different name saying "come here, I need you". It did this while I was there in the chatroom and my wife said "okay i'll be there". I don't even know how it is possible for a spirit from another plane to post on a website, or why it would even bother, but this has happened with a lot of the spirits my wife says she meets. She says they AP into people here to talk to her.  She claims to trust or even sometimes "love" these spirits. She cares for them, sometimes, I feel she does so even more than she cares for me.

What is she doing along the other planes? Is she simply exploring, or is there something she is seeking, something she is practicing?

This is something that has bothered me for a very long time. She tells me she goes to explore, and that is the only reason. But she has countless times told me she has met spirits she "loves" and goes to them simply for this reason. She has even, during certain events, claimed that she wants to "be" with some of the hateful spirits that have hurt both myself and her. But she then changes back and claims it isn't true. It is so confusing. Especially as I am NOT an astral projector.

Do you separate yourself from your identity and try to connect with the divine (In your case, God)? Or do you retain your self, and send the prayer from your own identity? What has the response been? The feelings while you pray? 

When I ask the Elohim for guidance, I do it as myself. I have even pleaded with them when previous prayers have had no responce. In most cases, praying has NOT helped. The feelings I feel are a mixture of fear, love for my wife, and stress. Though I have tried so hard to feel less scared, I find it extremely difficult. She has been talking to this spirit I mentioned 2 posts ago since the event.

I will attempt to help you better understand spiritual energies and how to work with them, to help your wife, but I would prefer to do it over private messages rather than on the open forums. If this is what you want, then please send me a message.

Thank you so much, I will PM you.

Well,there is Tom Campbell with his large experience in this stuff,maybe you can contact him on his-My big toe forum,for advice,just a thought.

Can you PM me a link please? Thank you.

[lotuspaper]

Please, I hope somebody can help me.

My wife is an astral projector. She is constantly AP'd into other planes, both of Focus 2 and Focus 3 levels. Since she has been doing this she has become extremely sick, and doctors don't have any idea what is wrong with her. They have done every test imaginable to diagnose her but nothing.

I will be honest, I have always objected to her AP'ing. I am Christian, and I believe that other dimensions and realities are seperated from our own for good reason. However, I never used to interfere with her affairs until the other night when I got very disturbed by how she was acting.

I was speaking to her normally then she started hearing things that I was saying that I wasn't really saying. She began conversing with me, even though I wasn't talking. She couldn't seem to hear me telling her it isn't me speaking. Then she blacked out.

Her voice became a whisper, and deep. But it wasn't speaking to me. It was saying her name several times, breathing heavy then stopping. Then she would regain consciousness and think i said something bad to her when I did not. Then it would happen again.

My first thought, was Schitsophrenia. But that was until she went into another trance and told me "your lover will never be well again, she belongs to me" i became more concerned. I figured it was a spirit from another plane, so I spoke to it and asked it who it was and it said "Legion". I recognised that immediatelly as the spirit that Jesus Exorcised from Michael in the Bible. After it told me that I was terrified, and have been looking for help ever since. Nobody will help her, and she refuses to go to a psychiatrist. No church will do anything like Exorcisms because its not proven she isn't insane yet.

I only know about AP from what my wife tells me. So I knwo little. But you people are the experts. Can her AP'ing have allowed this demon through? Could this be the reason she is sick?? Can someone please help me?

Okay. It sounds to me like there is a lot of confusion going on here.

First and most importantly of all : A negative entity/spirit/demon/whatever you want to call it cannot "possess" or "torment" or do anything to a person. Why you ask? Because we are attached by a silver chord that cannot be severed. An entity cannot harm, an entity cannot steal. And what I'm talking about are entities with lower vibrations. Even visiting the lower planes is no big deal because the entities there will only try to scare you, and that's only if they want to..Usually they know if you are prone to scare tactics, and the only reason people get scared is because they see unfamiliar faces,objects,colors,etc.. kind of like in horror movies that try to scare you with weird visuals.

Secondly, the entities/demons/whatever that are of lower vibrations only stay within the lower vibration planes. They cannot access planes with higher vibrations. That being said, earth is a higher vibrational plane. So negative entities cannot come and "haunt" us if you will. This is the system that has been set by the divine.

Now, onto the confusion with your wife. She is hearing things in her head you say. My thoughts on this are that if she has been projecting for a while, she could be experiencing some cosmic "static". Like when you are tuning a radio and you hear the static in between stations. Her astral body is probably hearing things in the astral plane because she did not fully tune back into her physical self.  This comes from not grounding and centering.

for more information on that go to this link : http://www.articlesbase.com/self-improvement-articles/tips-for-healers-grounding-amp-centering-2046997.html

It is VERY important to ground and center when you are working with energy in any form. I learned this the hard way unfortunately.

The only other possibility I can think of is something that is physically happening inside of her brain. A chemical imbalance can cause audio hallucinations. I'm not saying she has a mental disorder, just that sometimes a surge of chemicals/hormones can play tricks on the mind. If this instance happens again, I would take her to a healthcare professional just in case.

If it does turn out like someone in this thread mentioned before that she is playing with you, I would inform her that it is not nice of her to do that to you and that it's causing you to really worry about her.

This might sound crazy, but this spirit began to "post" on her website, calling her by a different name saying "come here, I need you". It did this while I was there in the chatroom and my wife said "okay i'll be there". I don't even know how it is possible for a spirit from another plane to post on a website, or why it would even bother, but this has happened with a lot of the spirits my wife says she meets. She says they AP into people here to talk to her.  She claims to trust or even sometimes "love" these spirits. She cares for them, sometimes, I feel she does so even more than she cares for me.

Not possible. You will not be able to contact / be contacted personally by entities from the astral planes in such a way. Spirit guides/God/higher self can give you "signs" (such a cliche, but thats how they do it). For example, if you are under financial stress and you call upon your guides for direction on how to get more money, they will only give you signs indirectly. Not a personal message in your inbox saying "hey this is your spirit guide". No, it doesn't work that way. You can only converse with them telepathically and in astral form. They can also hear you if you talk to them out loud (e.g. prayer). And that only applies to, once again, entities/spirits with very high vibrations. Entities can project to earth just as we can project outside of it; but when you project, earth as you see it now does not look the same when you are in astral form. So they cannot come to earth, find a computer, and start typing. They can only see the energies of objects, and manipulate them even. They cannot use objects the way we do because they do not have a physical body. In the case of the website, It sounds like again she is up to something intentionally or that you could have misinterpreted a conversation between her and another person. By the way, out of curiosity, what is her website?

Hope this helped.

-LotusPaper