Re:Force field around White House!

[personalreality]

i have indeed read the monroe and kepple resources.

let me respond simply.  i don't like the presumptuous attitude and subsequent definition declared by kepple and monroe.  who the hell do they think they are?!  jesus or something?  lol, totally kidding. 

but in all seriousness, these people are fine for achieving projection, but as far as "astral physics" goes, that is an individual journey.  you experience the astral world you expect to experience.

[Seraphis1]

i have indeed read the monroe and kepple resources.

let me respond simply.  i don't like the presumptuous attitude and subsequent definition declared by kepple and monroe.  who the hell do they think they are?!  jesus or something?  lol, totally kidding. 

but in all seriousness, these people are fine for achieving projection, but as far as "astral physics" goes, that is an individual journey.  you experience the astral world you expect to experience.

What area did you project to... What did you see? What experiements have you performed? Who are your guides and what do they say? Please don't take this as a cheap shot... but, if you are familiar with kepple how come you didn't know he is the one who coined the concept of 'Astral Mud'.

S.

[Naykid]

See?  This is what I'm talking about when it comes to ya'lls concepts and definitions. 

My goodness people... just be happy that this kind of shite is happening to you at all.   And this concept of "astral mud"... WTF?... who cares? 

Most ppl here are so bogged down by other people's perceptions that it is bogging down their own..............acceleration.   STOP IT. 

Your perception of YOUR life is exactly what it should be.  Don't look towards others to validate what you think should happen. 

Just saying.

[Seraphis1]

i have indeed read the monroe and kepple resources.

but in all seriousness, these people are fine for achieving projection, but as far as "astral physics" goes, that is an individual journey.  you experience the astral world you expect to experience.

Hi PR: First, the astral and the planes above the astral are not the same and do not respond to the same laws. The astral kepple's f2... is the individual's subconscious in which you are right what you think will be created on demand.

But the f23 and above are a collective consciousness in which you interact with others reality... tho, you can create with thought... others don't have to accept your creation...

If you can get into a Hollow heaven, try to convert someone... or start preaching heresy... they will probably attack you... they can't hurt you... but you will have to leave... but, you will not be able to affect or change that consensus reality... therefore it is incorrect to say in all the non-physical what you create is what you get...

S.

[Seraphis1]

See?  This is what I'm talking about when it comes to ya'lls concepts and definitions. 

My goodness people... just be happy that this kind of shite is happening to you at all.   And this concept of "astral mud"... WTF?... who cares? 

Most ppl here are so bogged down by other people's perceptions that it is bogging down their own..............acceleration.   STOP IT. 

Your perception of YOUR life is exactly what it should be.  Don't look towards others to validate what you think should happen. 

Just saying.

Hi Nya kid: Well, said.

S.

[Naykid]

hehehe.. it's Naykid.  No need to split it up.  I was once, Nay, and now I'm Naykid. 

BUT... like I was saying, stop trying to define your experience by other experience... you can get some basis of it.. but to totally define it...NO WAY.

[Seraphis1]

Astral Mud and how to get dunked in it:

I recently watched a documentary on the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Essenes. I realized this was a perfect example of the getting stuck in the Astral Mud.

The Essenes practiced very severe austerity and exotic ascetic techniques along with elaborate rituals... this obviously put then into a phasing or obe state in which they penetrated the astral world... because they didn't understand where they were and didn't explore beyond the astral areas... they got tangled in visions of potential futures... they saw their own demise at the hands of the Romans... but, reversed the victory and added a victory and divine salvation... which Evangelical Christians today still interpret as the coming Armageddon end of days...   

S.

[personalreality]

See?  This is what I'm talking about when it comes to ya'lls concepts and definitions. 

My goodness people... just be happy that this kind of shite is happening to you at all.   And this concept of "astral mud"... WTF?... who cares? 

Most ppl here are so bogged down by other people's perceptions that it is bogging down their own..............acceleration.   STOP IT. 

Your perception of YOUR life is exactly what it should be.  Don't look towards others to validate what you think should happen. 

Just saying.

I never thought this would happen, but thank you Nay, that is my point exactly.

My experiences in projection are ultimately irrelevant.  It doesn't matter what I have experienced, the simple truth is that I have experienced the shift in awareness that people call astral projection and I will certainly come to ever evolving conclusions about these journeys.  But I come to these conclusions on my own and I wouldn't dream of telling other people "this is how it is".

[Naykid]

 

Yeah, I know that had to hurt.

[personalreality]

word.