2012 swag

[aquaman211]

Just be yourself; stop searching; it'll just happen.

You're 46 and you're posting on a 2012 forum, and you're arguing with a haughty young adult who believes he has a deadline to teach what he knows to his lovers before something bad happens.  what did you expect?

[Taoistguy]

I think you missed my point. Slow down and listen. Others have gone before you and have a deeper understanding. What you said in your previous tirade I was saying when I was 18. Time gives us experience and a deeper insight into the way things change in this world. Slow down.
Listen to some Ian Dury and have a cup of tea!

[aquaman211]

I think you missed my point. Slow down and listen. Others have gone before you and have a deeper understanding. What you said in your previous tirade I was saying when I was 18. Time gives us experience and a deeper insight into the way things change in this world. Slow down.
Listen to some Ian Dury and have a cup of tea!

slowing down for me meant focusing my attention on one girl.  time is what we are running out of sir.

EDIT: when you were 18, a nuclear reactor couldn't be set off by a computer nerd chilling in the comfort of his cubicle. (look up stuxnet worm)

planes weren't crashing into skyscrapers symbolizing Radical Islam bringing down the material world followed by YOUR politicians shoving terrorism down your throats using proven psychological cues and brainwash tactics (communism was though, which is ironic because guess which country threatens to own us now)

brainwashed TSA agents weren't fondling your children's privates so that they can get on a plane.

we're in for some scary excrement, and as long as i know why, i can't be scared, and in times like this big muscles might suddenly become obsolete if you're looking at it from a girl's perspective.

[personalreality]

but at the end of the day i really don't take life that seriously so i feel like it's great entertainment and i get love for it so it can't be that bad.

it is good fun isn't it.

we live in the most Godless society lacking in any real culture, like a machine of a sort.  zombieland.  our social lives will morph into using each other without guilt until a spiritual revolution comes along.

you have very high hopes for humans.  i don't share your optimism.

but duh, we are horrible horrible excuses for "human beings".

[aquaman211]

you have very high hopes for humans.  i don't share your optimism.

but duh, we are horrible horrible excuses for "human beings".

i have very high hopes in STRONG humans (secret societies/Zionists/Illuminati/the next Nazi regime/ur mom) rising to the occasion.  i find it surprising that i am being called the optimist here and I'm the one on the search for true love when i am the one bringing up the end of the world age and all the crap that makes us worthless beings.

[Taoistguy]

Who called you an optimist?

[personalreality]

i did.

"our social lives will morph into using each other without guilt until a spiritual revolution comes along."

that's optimistic of you to expect a spiritual revolution.

[aquaman211]

i did.

"our social lives will morph into using each other without guilt until a spiritual revolution comes along."

that's optimistic of you to expect a spiritual revolution.

well to be a music icon these days requires you to be pushing a new age agenda in your work...i am more of a writer, and can't help but do the same.  I think the direction in which our hip hop/rock/pop stars have gone towards is most definitive of a hidden scheme to plant the seeds of truth within the minds of our youth.  once the new religion is unveiled, i believe narcissism will be redefined into something more like what we discuss on these forums, and not many will agree with it and this is what i love most about it.

[Stillwater]

I think the direction in which our hip hop/rock/pop stars have gone towards is most definitive of a hidden scheme to plant the seeds of truth within the minds of our youth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0iuQicb95g



The truth has never been mainstream. Kongzi (Confucious), Zhuangzi and Laozi (The two great Daoists) were all pretty much near enemies of the state, living on the fringe. Very little art or meaning comes from the accepted or popularly sanctioned channels.

[aquaman211]

The truth has never been mainstream. Kongzi (Confucious), Zhuangzi and Laozi (The two great Daoists) were all pretty much near enemies of the state, living on the fringe. Very little art or meaning comes from the accepted or popularly sanctioned channels.

agreed.  however, religion will always be mainstream, and i definitely think we are about to witness a new age religion "win out" over Islam/Christianity.  one that is more compatible with science.  the truth is ever changing and i don't see us all becoming astrological gurus by 2012, but i do see a smarter religion coming along that is associated with the occult and metaphysics, and perhaps this is why our entertainers have gone bat excrement insane.  not just in music either.

[Stillwater]

agreed.  however, religion will always be mainstream, and i definitely think we are about to witness a new age religion "win out" over Islam/Christianity.  one that is more compatible with science.  the truth is ever changing and i don't see us all becoming astrological gurus by 2012, but i do see a smarter religion coming along that is associated with the occult and metaphysics, and perhaps this is why our entertainers have gone bat excrement insane.  not just in music either.

But religion usually only generally keeps a portion of the original founder's message, and surrounds it in a web of superstition, ritual, and mis-interpretations. It is definitely right to say religion is mainstream, and it inherits all the same flaws as mainstream thinking.


You might be right about the religious revolution, but I think that if any great change is coming, it will be an enormous wave of Islam. Islamic immigrants in Europe are far outpacing native birth rates in their respective new homes, and many have projected the Islamic sector to be the overwhelming wing of growth. The same is also true in Southeast Asia, where Islam is replacing Hinduism and Buddhism over time. At the rate we are going, Muslims will be a majority far more powerful than the Catholic church was in its heyday.

[Taoistguy]

I think you're overestimating the muslim growth factor. This can be due to the psychological and xenophobic paranoia promoted by the media.

[Stillwater]

I think you're overestimating the muslim growth factor. This can be due to the psychological and xenophobic paranoia promoted by the media.

Oh, I don't deny that there is a massive onslaught of negative media reflection on the idea, and tons of ignorance being propogated.

But I still believe this is a reality. Over half of europe has declining birthrates below replacement levels among its natives in any individual country, and the Immigrants coming in from the Middle east, Turkey, and North Africa are all having large families several times replacement.  I am not saying this trend will continue indefinitely, but if it should continue over a couple generations, Europe will begin to look 25-40% Muslim. There are already places in Sweden and Denmark where these percentages have actualized.

In order to deny the idea of this growth, you would have to deny those statistics about birth rates.

In all honesty, and I don't mean this in any derogatory way, I think the coming century belongs to China and Islam, in the same way that the past half-century or so belonged to the U.S. and its interests.

[CFTraveler]

Interesting conclusions.  China and Islam.  The chinese being communist and by definition  antireligion and the muslims being uber-religious.  Sounds like the makings for a big-ol' war.

[Taoistguy]

The Chinese aren't Communist. They are State Capitalist in the same way Russia was.
And the Muslims aren't uber-religious. It's only the views of the few extremists as portrayed and made to seem representative of all Muslims, by the media.

I think Christians are more 'uber-religious', as have been for decades, especially in America.

[aquaman211]

The Chinese aren't Communist. They are State Capitalist in the same way Russia was.
And the Muslims aren't uber-religious. It's only the views of the few extremists as portrayed and made to seem representative of all Muslims, by the media.

I think Christians are more 'uber-religious', as have been for decades, especially in America.

What if the same people who control our media are the same people who created Al-Queda?  I've read between 60-80% of America claims to be Christian, and Islam happens to be in direct disagreement with Christian values especially when it comes to the story of Christ and his resurrection.  It almost guarantees endless wars/crusades until the same people who were responsible for making both religions mainstream in the first place decide it's game over.  Which is what seems to be happening all in time for 2012.  I am afraid for both Christians and Muslims to be frank.

[Taoistguy]

"What if?" Hmmm, what if lots of things? It's all speculation and conspiracy theories. As 21st century citizens, it's time to ignore all the rumours and just create our paradise on Earth!
We can speculate for ever and ever, but we'd just be like headless chickens running round in circles while there's work to be done.

And as for the Crusades...don't get me started on the Crusades!!

[Volgerle]

Over half of europe has declining birthrates below replacement levels among its natives in any individual country, and the Immigrants coming in from the Middle east, Turkey, and North Africa are all having large families several times replacement.  I am not saying this trend will continue indefinitely, but if it should continue over a couple generations, Europe will begin to look 25-40% Muslim. There are already places in Sweden and Denmark where these percentages have actualized.

Newer statistics show that Muslim women adapt their child numbers to European level which means that the immigrants lower their birthrates and so become equal to European resident national levels.

At least that's what I read lately. It was said as reponse to a bitter public discussion in the media of this topic here in Germany that we had a few months ago, sparked off by this book:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thilo_Sarrazin#Controversy

[Taoistguy]

I never listen to statistics anyway, they are always changing. They are biased anyhow dependent on which organisation funds them.

[aquaman211]

"What if?" Hmmm, what if lots of things? It's all speculation and conspiracy theories. As 21st century citizens, it's time to ignore all the rumours and just create our paradise on Earth!
We can speculate for ever and ever, but we'd just be like headless chickens running round in circles while there's work to be done.

And as for the Crusades...don't get me started on the Crusades!!

very true, however, what if creating our paradise on Earth requires doing awful things that create all these speculations and conspiracy theories? since you are 46, going to war isn't something to worry about for you, as for someone my age, it is very possible that this economy can collapse and suddenly the job i went to college for isn't deemed very useful anymore and i have to find other ways to make an income if I don't want to have to be a pawn for an agenda I saw unfolding ahead of time.

[Taoistguy]

since you are 46, going to war isn't something to worry about for you, as for someone my age,

it is very possible that this economy can collapse and suddenly the job i went to college for isn't deemed very useful anymore and i have to find other ways to make an income if I don't want to have to be a pawn for an agenda I saw unfolding ahead of time.

LOL. Thanks.  Oh. Suddenly life seems better now. LOL :\

[Naykid]

Now all us old folk have left is picking out the style of our walkers.   

[Taoistguy]

aquaman211,

since you are 22, going to war isn't something to worry about for you, as for someone my daughter's age (17) ,

it is very possible that this economy can collapse and suddenly the college she wants to go to isn't deemed very useful anymore and she has to find other ways to get qualifications that won't mean a thing iin the post-apocalyptic Mad Max-type world she is doomed to try to survive in when all the aliens and arch angels and 4 horsemen come thundering down on us!

[Xanth]

aquaman211,

since you are 22, going to war isn't something to worry about for you, as for someone my daughter's age (17) ,

it is very possible that this economy can collapse and suddenly the college she wants to go to isn't deemed very useful anymore and she has to find other ways to get qualifications that won't mean a thing iin the post-apocalyptic Mad Max-type world she is doomed to try to survive in when all the aliens and arch angels and 4 horsemen come thundering down on us!

LoL  That's so Tao! 

[Taoistguy]

Now all us old folk have left is picking out the style of our walkers.   

Hmm, I want one with Asterix stickers on. No, Wombles stickers. Oh, I dunno, too many choices nowadays!