Sitting at PC trying to project...

[SkepticBoy]

How many of you have tried OBE "on the spot" when at your computer? maybe using headphones with sounds to assist.

Is this position ok to attempt from? I feel maybe I could attempt from this position more and just wanted feedback on it ty.

[Xanth]

As long as you're comfortable... you should be able to project from anywhere.

Most people find their bed or a comfy chair easier when they start out though.

I've had a bit of success the last few months practicing at my desk on my lunch hour. 

You just need to be able to remain comfortable and be able to be in a position that doesn't inhibit your ability to disassociate from your physical body and surroundings.  Those are the only prerequisites I can think of.

[Stookie]

I think it's probably best to have some sort of place or routine that is separate from your regular routines. If you do it in the place where you are normally working and typing, then you might start to associate OBE's with work. When I practice, I'm in a place and position that only happens during practice. When I go into that place and position, my body/subconscious immediately knows what it's supposed to be doing.

[Xanth]

Thomas Campbell spoke about this particular thing... and I'm really in full agreement with him on it.

In his Hawaii lecture, he spoke about our "routine" and "ritual" that we associate with things like Meditation and our Projection practices being "tools" that we use to focus our intent towards the goal we're looking to achieve... and I really can't help but agree with that.  I mean, as you said Stookie, you setup a place and a time so that when you immediate enter that "space" it automatically starts the process for you. 

I'm not even sure if this would be classified as "more advanced"... because everyone could most definitely be successful at doing this, but he suggests that if you mix things up, and don't allow yourself to get into that position where a certain "environment/routine/ritual" actions trigger that specific effect in you, then I believe you're well on your way to mastering whatever you're practicing... be it meditation or astral projection.

If you have trouble practicing where there is noise... then practice where there is noise, get yourself used to it.  If you generally practice lying down, then practice sitting up, and likewise in reverse... always mix it up though.   Eventually you won't need the "routine" or the "ritual" and practice goes from something you do "sometimes" to something you can, quite literally, do anytime... or even all the time.

I thought it was a great thought to share. 

[Lexy]

some guy here said he projected while driving  so I think you are not trying hard enough. Just sitting at your PC?   

[Stookie]

Thomas Campbell spoke about this particular thing... and I'm really in full agreement with him on it.

In his Hawaii lecture, he spoke about our "routine" and "ritual" that we associate with things like Meditation and our Projection practices being "tools" that we use to focus our intent towards the goal we're looking to achieve... and I really can't help but agree with that.  I mean, as you said Stookie, you setup a place and a time so that when you immediate enter that "space" it automatically starts the process for you.  

I'm not even sure if this would be classified as "more advanced"... because everyone could most definitely be successful at doing this, but he suggests that if you mix things up, and don't allow yourself to get into that position where a certain "environment/routine/ritual" actions trigger that specific effect in you, then I believe you're well on your way to mastering whatever you're practicing... be it meditation or astral projection.

If you have trouble practicing where there is noise... then practice where there is noise, get yourself used to it.  If you generally practice lying down, then practice sitting up, and likewise in reverse... always mix it up though.   Eventually you won't need the "routine" or the "ritual" and practice goes from something you do "sometimes" to something you can, quite literally, do anytime... or even all the time.

I thought it was a great thought to share.  

Yeah, when things go dead you've gotta spice it up. Not just with AP, but with all of life. You get in your ruts and gotta find a way out. When you're not moving forward, then yes, you need a change.

But for long-term success in AP, you've got to be disciplined as well, and anything that requires discipline requires an amount of routine and schedule. If you don't stick to it, you don't progress. If you're constantly trying new things every time you get a little bored or frustrated, or not making time in your life for it, or only doing it when it "feels right", you probably won't ever have much success.

And when something that has worked in the past stops progressing or gets stagnant, then you change routine. It's important to notice that and take action. But for most beginners, I would suggest a routine that builds discipline that they can stick with until it becomes a normal part of their life. Because to AP for the long-term, it has to become a normal association in your life, not a task or a chore. It's something you live, not something you do.

[djed]

Thats the reason I try and use the same comfortable place, that my subconcious knows and why I no longer go on fairground rides in case I 'projected' where I need  to hold on to the bar!  Because I often go into a lucid dream when I dream of falling, rollerskating or even swimming!
Cheers djed

[Xanth]

Oh, I definitely agree that it's a great idea when you're starting out.  As with any tool, they're great to assist you in the beginning.

I do believe, however, like any other "tool", they eventually become limiting in that you need to do that certain set of requirements before you can meditate or practice your projection.  Some people have the goal of eventually being able to project on a dime, anywhere, anytime.  I believe that the beginning of that starts with being able to practice anywhere.

For example, I've, albeit very briefly, been able to phase into Focus 21 from sitting here at work with a little bit of noise going on around me.  I've been trying to remove that self-created limitation that has held me back from meditating or phasing from anywhere... this is my beginning. 

But yeah, definitely... when you're first starting out, having a routine and a "usual area" never hurts.  I'm actually in the process of making a Meditation Room in my house for that reason.  While, I don't intend to use it *everytime* I practice... when I need to get away from things, I'll definitely be using it. 

[Stookie]

I understand what Thomas Campbell was saying about routine, but he was talking about the old ladies that go to yoga everyday at 8 AM, who started out really excited but it's now just routine. Not people who are actively progressing. It's for the people that are stuck after having a little success.

Oh, I definitely agree that it's a great idea when you're starting out.  As with any tool, they're great to assist you in the beginning.

It's not a beginner or advanced thing. It's discipline, son!

I for one think sitting in front of a PC where you do a lot of daily work is not the best idea. But if you think he should so he can do it anywhere later in life... I was gonna say "who am I to argue". 

[Xanth]

I understand what Thomas Campbell was saying about routine, but he was talking about the old ladies that go to yoga everyday at 8 AM, who started out really excited but it's now just routine. Not people who are actively progressing. It's for the people that are stuck after having a little success.

Not at all.  He was talking about the "everyday practitioner".
Just sayin...