Anyone been to Focus 27?

[Eyyoshi]

I heard it's only accessible if you're dead.

And to those who can't afford Hemi sync: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8eSuZ71S8k&playnext=1&list=PL31B39BE87D18CCFE

A little playlist of hemi sync someone uploaded. Seems like he only uploaded one hour, a nice alternate if you're having trouble with theta/alpha brain waves. I listen to it and get vibes within 20 minutes if I don't screw up my focus. I wish I had more time in life to listen to this and project (shoots for the weekends). The first video's ending has an annoying loud noise, you might wanna play 2/6 video.

Xanth is back to his terror kitten avatar?

[Xanth]

Focus 27?  Not I...
I believe the furthest I've been have been the BST's... and even then it's been once, maybe twice.  Although I can't really be sure of either.  LoL

And yeah, I figured it was time to retire the Eagle for the time being and bring back the KITTEN OF TERROR!!

[Astral316]

I haven't gotten very far yet.

I downloaded the same Youtube videos on my iPod, only 4 out of 6, and the beginning of the second video startles the royal shiz out of me if I'm in trance before it starts. It does work great for the most part, though...

[Greytraveller]

Greetings all
Regarding going to Focus 27 only of you're dead. I have read some OBE accounts from experienced projectors who have visited 'hospitals ' and 'reception centers' in focus 27 areas in order to meet deceased friends and relatives. While these OBE accounts are somewhat rare there are enough of these experiences to surmise that a living person CAN visit a focus 27 if there is sufficient motivation and/or need to do so.

Greetings 
Grey

[Volgerle]

People in regression hypnosis report their "memories" from places that seem to be those in F27, such as rehabilitation centers, libraries, schools/universities for learning groups, etc.
That is why it ("Afterlife" or whatever you call it) has meanwhile become a pretty consistent general overview picture for me.

[Xanth]

Greetings all
Regarding going to Focus 27 only of you're dead. I have read some OBE accounts from experienced projectors who have visited 'hospitals ' and 'reception centers' in focus 27 areas in order to meet deceased friends and relatives. While these OBE accounts are somewhat rare there are enough of these experiences to surmise that a living person CAN visit a focus 27 if there is sufficient motivation and/or need to do so.

Greetings 
Grey

That's pretty much what I believe as well. 

[Under_the_Midnight_Sun]

Focus 27?  Not I...
I believe the furthest I've been have been the BST's... and even then it's been once, maybe twice.  Although I can't really be sure of either.  LoL

And yeah, I figured it was time to retire the Eagle for the time being and bring back the KITTEN OF TERROR!!

Hi xanth, what is a BST?

[Xanth]

Hi xanth, what is a BST?

It stands for "Belief System Territories".

It's a label that Robert Monroe gave to group together his Focus levels 24, 25 and 26.
Basically, when a person dies, they're believed to gravitate towards the BST area that best suits their personal belief system.  In other words, you end up in a collective consciousness environment with other people of like-minded beliefs. 

[Under_the_Midnight_Sun]

It stands for "Belief System Territories".

It's a label that Robert Monroe gave to group together his Focus levels 24, 25 and 26.
Basically, when a person dies, they're believed to gravitate towards the BST area that best suits their personal belief system.  In other words, you end up in a collective consciousness environment with other people of like-minded beliefs. 

ohh alrighty thanks a lot for the description

[Bruce Wayne]

Haven't been to Focus 27 yet, but I hear it's the best place to gather data in regards to proving O.B.E's are real to yourself.

[Xanth]

Haven't been to Focus 27 yet, but I hear it's the best place to gather data in regards to proving O.B.E's are real to yourself.

I believe that the "Library" that Monroe and Frank described there was actually the Akashic Records... and the "library" is how they perceived it.

Just a hunch...

[Bruce Wayne]

I'm talking more about gathering data from people who have passed on and going back to the physical to see if their really was a person name Joe Smith who died in WWII etc.

[rangestormer]

I believe that the "Library" that Monroe and Frank described there was actually the Akashic Records... and the "library" is how they perceived it.

Just a hunch...

We should make another topic about the akashic records, I have always wondered what others think of it, is it real, has anyone visited it -> what did they find.

[CFTraveler]

Greetings all
Regarding going to Focus 27 only of you're dead. I have read some OBE accounts from experienced projectors who have visited 'hospitals ' and 'reception centers' in focus 27 areas in order to meet deceased friends and relatives. While these OBE accounts are somewhat rare there are enough of these experiences to surmise that a living person CAN visit a focus 27 if there is sufficient motivation and/or need to do so.

Greetings 
Grey

I was going to say, that I'm not 100% of 'what' constitutes focus 27, but if it's the hospital or the park, then I have been there.

[The_One]

A little off topic, but what focus level would the Buddhic level be? That must be a high level surely.

[Xanth]

A little off topic, but what focus level would the Buddhic level be? That must be a high level surely.

My opinion is that The Buddhic Plane is representative of... possibly Focus 4 oC. 

[justin35ll]

I'm reading Bruce Moens series and so far he has described going to his familiar F27 state prob over a 100 times lol

[The_One]

 You mean Frank's focus 4 Xanth?

[Xanth]

You mean Frank's focus 4 Xanth?

I don't know for certain obviously... this is only "my" best guess, but yeah. 

I think it goes something like this:

# The Physical Plane = Focus 1 oC
# The Astral = Focus 2 oC
# The Mental Plane = Focus 3 oC
# The Buddhic Plane = Focus 4 oC

Alternatively, from reading descriptions... the Astral and Mental might be confused as being separate when they MIGHT actually be the same place.  What people call the "higher astral" could refer to Focus 3, or either the Mental or Buddhic Plane, depending upon if you lump the Astral and Mental Planes together.  LoL

Assuming that, then that would mean the Buddhic Plane could be Focus 3 oC with the Atmic Plane actually being Focus 4 oC.

[Astral316]

I think it goes something like this:

# The Physical Plane = Focus 1 oC
# The Astral = Focus 2 oC
# The Mental Plane = Focus 3 oC
# The Buddhic Plane = Focus 4 oC

I too think these translations aren't that simple. Focus 2 oC is described as being one's personal area in the collective unconscious and clearly the Astral encompasses much more than this. Focus 3 oC is described as the other, public part of "Astral proper" when the Mental plane seems to refer only to the higher realms/ highest portion of "Astral proper." The buddhic plane sounds like Focus 4 oC even though descriptions of the Atmic plane sounds closer to what Focus oC 4 is described as. With all this in mind I think it goes like...

# The Physical Plane = Focus 1 oC
# The Astral Plane (private, with the Etheric Plane blending at the low end) = Focus 2 oC
# The Astral Plane (public, with the Mental Plane blending at the high end) = Focus 3 oC
# The Buddhic/Atmic Plane = Focus 4 oC

[Stookie]

I call Focus 4 "The Crazy Rainbow Point". Doesn't help anything.

[Xanth]

I too think these translations aren't that simple. Focus 2 oC is described as being one's personal area in the collective unconscious and clearly the Astral encompasses much more than this. Focus 3 oC is described as the other, public part of "Astral proper" when the Mental plane seems to refer only to the higher realms/ highest portion of "Astral proper." The buddhic plane sounds like Focus 4 oC even though descriptions of the Atmic plane sounds closer to what Focus oC 4 is described as. With all this in mind I think it goes like...

# The Physical Plane = Focus 1 oC
# The Astral Plane (private, with the Etheric Plane blending at the low end) = Focus 2 oC
# The Astral Plane (public, with the Mental Plane blending at the high end) = Focus 3 oC
# The Buddhic/Atmic Plane = Focus 4 oC

That works just as well too. 

I call Focus 4 "The Crazy Rainbow Point". Doesn't help anything.

Dude!  Are you the double rainbow guy?! 

[The_One]

 Kind of cool I ended up so high, on that plane by accident.

[c0sm0nautt]

Whose model going Focus 1-4 Oc?

[tweed]

c0sm0nautt, it's Frank Kepple's


Monroe and his team discovered some interesting things on their travels, that one person's body was not able to handle the different states or levels or frequencies.. these 'locations' and had to go through a lot of training. They mentioned problems with metabolism.
I think there was a thread on this forum some time ago about energy work strengthening one so that they could leave the body. Some people didn't agree, but maybe certain people do need it.