How to resinate a crystal?

[Stookie]

I don't see whats so hard about understanding how to transfer human consciousness into a crystal...

Yeah, I learned that in 3rd grade 

[kurtykurt42]

Yeah, I learned that in 3rd grade 

Writing thousands of line of code in object oriented programming languages such as C++ and C is probably almost as challenging... Not to mention I've taken some of the most advanced University level mathematics you can take. I don't like to toot my own horn but us humans are capable of comprehending quite a bit, so if you think you can do it you probably can. And if you don't think you can do it, then sit on the sidelines and watch.

[Simo]

I don't see whats so hard about understanding how to transfer human consciousness into a crystal... If I had access to a little more advanced technology it would be a piece of cake.

Yeah there are too many BIG IF's standing in our way don't you think?If's and But's  

[personalreality]

While I don't know anything about crystals, some believe that everything is 1's and 0's, male/female, alpha/omega, yin/yang. Balance of the opposites, the 50/50 theory.

I have a crystal that I found in my backyard that I've been meaning to take pictures of. I have an interesting theory about it... I will upload it soon. Perhaps PR can tell me something about it. It may be junk, I don't know, but it's held my interest.

Definitely, post a pic, I'll do what I can to identify it.  Ruby, Beryl, Amethyst, Citrine, Garnet and Quartz are some common stones found in Georgia, so it could be one of those  Of course, it could be almost anything.

[Stookie]

It's crystal quartz. I made a note so I don't forget to take pics this evening. It's different from any rock I've ever found, but I'm not a rock collector either.

[Stillwater]

I also think it is in theory possible to encode "metaphysical" information in data.

In order for data to make coherent sense, you need both a way of reading it, and translation into an output. The data in your hard-drive, which in one case my code for an image, does not do so intrinsicly. Nothing about the data says, "image data", rather than "calender" or "irrational number record". It is your system of understanding how to read it, and your monitor which receives the data and outputs is as pixel that give it temporary meaning as image data.

The same with theoretical metaphysical data. Most of the greater universe probably translates directly into consciousness. The output of consciousness is states of experience and awareness. In order to create metaphysical data, then, you would first have to identify all the qualities and quantifiable dimensions that consciousness can take. You would then assign data values to specific points along these continui of feeling and experience. Then you would need a medium- that is the easy part; any way of encoding data would do, actually, but I would imagine there would be significantly more data involved in graphing consciousness than in computer operations. Finally, to make all of this meaningful, you would need conscious systems to read the data and directly experience it, and you would need a method for synchronizing their personal experiences to match the data.

If all of the preceding paragraph is true, then metaphysical data should in theory be possible. The two major hurdles I see is whether or not it is indeed possible to graph our seemingly analogue experiences in a digital manner like this, and capture every dimension they possess, and if there exists a method for directly inducing expereinces in a given consciousness. If those two are solvable, then metaphysical data is likely a reality.

[CFTraveler]

I also think it is in theory possible to encode "metaphysical" information in data.

Like in modulation?

The two major hurdles I see is whether or not it is indeed possible to graph our seemingly analogue experiences in a digital manner like this,

We already do this in holography, don't we?  And tv.  Roughly, anyway.

and capture every dimension they possess, and if there exists a method for directly inducing expereinces in a given consciousness. If those two are solvable, then metaphysical data is likely a reality.

I think therein lies the hurdle.  Inducing an experience that is recognizable.

[Stillwater]

We already do this in holography, don't we?  And tv.  Roughly, anyway.

But in this case, we are converting an analogue experience (the reality filmed) into a digital medium. It is true that the latter is a representation of the former, and an approximation, but there is also information lost in going from the original analogue reality and approximating it into discrete digital data.

I guess to make that concept clearer, lets say that all measurements of things in the real world are either irrationals, or rational numbers with 40,000 decimal places. If the tv camera is recording digitally (not talking about cameras which take actual film frames, but either digital filming, or the process of converting these analogue stills into data that can be represented on television), then it is approximating these long decimals at some at some arbitrary stoping point of precision, say 8 decimal degits. Now to a person watching the film on television, this is indeed a representation of the reality filmed, but it has lost tremendous amounts of information. You can zoom in to reality and get more detail for every level you focus, but if you zoom in on the picture on tv, it just gets blurrier for every level of focus, since it only approximated data on the smaller scale.

Now take this concept and look at the idea of metaphysical data. If reality is digital, then this preceding issue should not arise, since eventually it would be possible for some intelligence to develop measuring and storage media that encode data to the very level of precision that reality's discrete units occur on. If reality is analogue to its very core essense, then this is a profound problem, since no matter how precise your measurement and recording, you are losing some data at a finer level then you are working at. It is acceptable to lose some information when you are just giving a television show which is a representation, but when it comes to encoding reality itself, any miss at all may very well be a miss by miles.

[CFTraveler]

I get what you're saying, but the holographic guys don't really believe reality is analog- they believe reality appears analog because our perception mechanisms are 'filling in the blanks' in between the zeroes to make it appear as analog- for example, the experiment with the blinking lights which to our brains look like a moving light- something like that.
So it would follow that there is no data lost, just compressed- maybe.
I don't know what the truth is, but it sure is interesting.

[Stillwater]

I get what you're saying, but the holographic guys don't really believe reality is analog

Yeah, I was sure you would- you seem to have an engineer's perspective generally; I was just trying to make where I was reasoning from clear to everyone, since I seem to come out no-place to some people at times, lol. And I follow you on the holographic physics bit too- I tried to show that I was allowing for reality to be either analogue or digital, and that an analogue world had special challenges to recording reality.

I have read some of the information on the idea of the holographic universe before, and I think it is a strong theory on how things may be at their core. An idea I would connect digital physics to is another idea that is somewhat Pythagorean / Neo-Platonic; the idea relates to the concept that there needs to be a reason for the universe to exist, or else it very well should not have existed at all.  Now consider the idea of truths or laws: say that I propose the universal truth that, "All astronauts in the universe will always be female." Now we know that truth to be false, since there have been some astronauts who were not female. But what if I proposed the same thing, but in a world where there never were astronauts, and never would or could be? Would it be a true statement, or a false one? Many philosophers of logic would say that it could only be false if there was a counterexample, and it could only be true if there were a set it described. Since neither is there, those philosophers would say that it was neither true nor false, but undefined.

Now consider something else. There are many truths, principally the truths of mathematics, that must be true in any possible world- they are "necessary" truths. These are truths like the law of non-contradiction (same thing cannot be true and false, or exist and not exist at the same time), and laws like 3+2 must = 5 in base ten. But if there is no universe, these necessary truths must remain undefined, since there is no set that they describe. But perhaps that is what the universe is- maybe these universal truths have such force that they take on creative power all on their own, and have generated a necessary mathematical universe which is the example of all possible truths. So in this view, the universe exists because it MUST, and it is necessarily compelled to.

This idea seemed very much like what digital physics is getting at to me- that the universe appears very much like a mathematical simulation, that ultimately IS mathematics at its core.

[CFTraveler]

Yeah, I was sure you would-

Yes, I am a pain in the butt and love to argue discuss.   

you seem to have an engineer's perspective generally;

True, I have an engineering degree that I never really used, but an artist's heart...

I was just trying to make where I was reasoning from clear to everyone, since I seem to come out no-place to some people at times, lol. And I follow you on the holographic physics bit too- I tried to show that I was allowing for reality to be either analogue or digital, and that an analogue world had special challenges to recording reality.

I get it; after all physical reality appears analog, and it may very well be, if Bohm is correct.

I have read some of the information on the idea of the holographic universe before, and I think it is a strong theory on how things may be at their core. An idea I would connect digital physics to is another idea that is somewhat Pythagorean / Neo-Platonic; the idea relates to the concept that there needs to be a reason for the universe to exist, or else it very well should not have existed at all.  Now consider the idea of truths or laws: say that I propose the universal truth that, "All astronauts in the universe will always be female." Now we know that truth to be false, since there have been some astronauts who were not female. But what if I proposed the same thing, but in a world where there never were astronauts, and never would or could be? Would it be a true statement, or a false one? Many philosophers of logic would say that it could only be false if there was a counterexample, and it could only be true if there were a set it described. Since neither is there, those philosophers would say that it was neither true nor false, but undefined.

Just to continue being difficult, quantum indeterminacy implies both things are true, so Pythagoreans and possibly aristotelians might not get along with 'Everettians' or, or whatever they're called.

Now consider something else. There are many truths, principally the truths of mathematics, that must be true in any possible world-

Yep, and I'm glad you pointed out 'possible', because most people don't realize it's part of the premise.

they are "necessary" truths. These are truths like the law of non-contradiction (same thing cannot be true and false, or exist and not exist at the same time), and laws like 3+2 must = 5 in base ten. But if there is no universe, these necessary truths must remain undefined, since there is no set that they describe. But perhaps that is what the universe is- maybe these universal truths have such force that they take on creative power all on their own, and have generated a necessary mathematical universe which is the example of all possible truths. So in this view, the universe exists because it MUST, and it is necessarily compelled to.

This idea seemed very much like what digital physics is getting at to me- that the universe appears very much like a mathematical simulation, that ultimately IS mathematics at its core.

I agree, and there are a few physicists out there that agree with this.  I can't remember the names, but there was one mathematician in the Horizon series that illustrated it rather well.

[Nomesb69]

Ok after doing research on some of the information given to me via this thread, I decided I am going to wrap this crystal with a möbius coil and then build my own variable frequency zapper unit and tie my self and the crystal together with a 7.5 hz signal.