The Law of Attraction?

[Seeking ET]

I just read a post that had a little to do with this topic and it got me thinking a little bit more.  I'm just curious how many believe this idea.  Plainly stated it's the idea that everything in existence is created from energy, and thought itself is pure energy.  So by thinking about something enough you actually draw that reality into your life.  The problem here is that it sounds like wishful thinking.  It is a hopeful message, but something that might just be used to encourage someone down on their luck.  What do you have to say to people that actually practice this idea and find themselves still empty handed?  The validation for this thinking is that you will see the fruites of your labors.  If you participate correctly you should see results.  For you believers, what would you then say to those who would argue against it?  That wishful thinking gets nowhere and thinking about something is only important as long as it's followed by action, and without that there is no creation?

[CFTraveler]

To put it in a historical perspective, the law of attraction is the modern name for an older concept, the law of mind action.  This comes from a religious philosophy, which has to do with our identity as cocreators in the universe with God, as opposed to the 'established' christian concept of god as separate from creation, and man being separate from god, and at 'his' mercy.  This obviously does not appeal to some people, because of the "heretical" religious connotations, and also does not appeal to another type of person, the materialist who sees themselves as animated robots with no connection to the universe or each other.

Now, the 'law of attraction' is not about just wishful thinking, but about conscious creation of your environment.  What is the difference?  Simply, that if you want something, adding your mind power (which is 'targeted' thinking and feeling to action- making the process conscious, and not automatic).  Thinking about it and then doing  nothing, is not it, because by not acting, you are proving you really don't believe you will get results- so you are not really participating in this creation, you are just daydreaming.

You can consider conscious creation an entirely psychological action, and that is fine- after all it has been demonstrated (notice I didn't say proven, you can't prove something like this apart from statistical analysis, something that skeptics allow for 'the harder' or the soft sciences, (but not for anything that starts with 'para', since it conflicts with their belief system)- but I digressed- applying statistical analysis, it has been found that people that have positive attitudes succeed more than people that don't.

You don't have to believe that the law of attraction is a 'magical' thing, where you get something for nothing- it is simply a law of how things work, and if it doesn't work for you, there can be many reasons- like any other statistically calculated thing, you may be in the percentage of those for who it doesn't work, or you're doing it wrong.  If  you look at it as 'it doesn't work', you have just discovered the reason you're in that group.  "It doesn't work" is a command as much as "It works".

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[Xanth]

... I thoroughly enjoy reading everything you type, CFT. 

[CFTraveler]

Thanks, Xanth.
BTW, I now have a kitty (well, she's one now) that looks a lot like your avatar, without the superhero costume.

[Seeking ET]

This is a standard idea.  I think it's a bit of a copout to say that if you aren't experiencing results you must not be thinking right, or doing right, or believing enough, or something.  Isn't that just ensuring that no matter what happens you're argument for thought as creating reality never fails?  Things work, that means it's working.  Things don't work, that means it's working?

[CFTraveler]

No, I said statistics allow for a certain percentage to get no results.  However, if you're in that percentage, (no results) and interpret this as to mean "it doesn't work", you are indeed making this your affirmation.

[Seeking ET]

Sounds a bit like religious fervour to me.  Believe in a certain way and your wishes will come true.  "All things happen for a reason''.  "God works in mysterious ways". "There are no accidents".  Where is the evidence?  It just seems like by taking this stance you're trying to make it so it can't be wrong.  No matter what happens it's the law of attraction working.  Which is what religions often try to do as well.  Can you see the predicament in telling someone that once they start believing they'll have reason to believe?  Just playing devils advocate here.

[CFTraveler]

Sweetie, I'm talking about statistical analysis.  You don't have to believe anything.

[Xanth]

I don't believe in statistical analysis!   

[CFTraveler]

I don't believe in statistical analysis!   

Touche.   

[vladjackguy]

I used LOA since i discovered it and i can tell that it is working.

Things come to you, no matter how, in ways that you didn't even expect.This a very mysterious thing

Peace Vladjackguy.

[Seeking ET]

I think you'd be hard pressed to find statistical data on the number of individuals that thinking about the Law of Attraction and applying it has worked for.  It's not something you can measure objectively.   

[Enix]

We are made in God's image, God created everything by thought according to the Bible.   This relates to  the metaphysical principle As Above So Below.    There are many verses in the Bible supporting law of attraction.   Of course in the mind of most Christian Fundamentalist, Law of attraction  is only relevant if you have faith in there version of God.

For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he. Proverbs 23:7

Luke 17:6 –If you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this tree, Be uprooted and planted in the sea, and it will obey you.

Matthew 7:7 — Ask and ye shall receive.

The Law of attraction is a fundamental metaphysical principal. Those who travel in the astral realms see how energy forms in relation to there thoughts.  The astral in relation to the physical also applies to As Above so Below.
Naturally with how condensed energy is within this material realm. Moving energy here in correlation with your thoughts takes much greater power. Many Spiritual people and occultist have a knowledge of, and even a feeling of various energies. This takes practice. In ritual not only do certain colors, shapes, and tools help set an atmosphere, mood, and focus. Skilled Magician's and Occultist bring forth Universal energies such as the power of Mars or the Moon for specific purposes, often with gods or angels that relate with that energy.

Dancing with costumes and body paint around a fire (which enhances energy) is another useful and popular method.

Voodoo dolls work by this Law too.

Affirmation and Prayer are similar too just on a simpler more basic level. All of this is energy interacting with energy.
Folding hands at the heart during prayer connects the heart with the mind (specifically the third eye.)
Sensitive people such as myself can feel this. In fact I felt this before it was verified to me by yogi's.

Of course these powers can be used for great good or for great bad. Often there used to understand the nature of self and the Universe.

Of course there's superstition that amounts from this Law. Most people in the modern world Don't know the essentials correlating around this Law, There not in touch with nature or anything around them, They eat junk that makes them feel bad and weakens them, They can't control there thoughts, There's noise and distractions all around them. If you feel depressed all the time or anxious its not gonna work that well. Of course any effort can make a small difference.

Ive met religious people who state miracles such as "some dude with cancer lived who had a 50% recovery rate. God heard our prayers and listened." Yet some missionary witnessed an African Shape Shifter and its the work of the Devil.   I consider it to be law of attraction.

[Enix]

I know this is an old post, but reading it I have to admit that sometimes I talk about things without being an expert. At times I'll let a statement or person rub me the wrong way and I'll babble like an expert when really I'm a novice at this. I'd hate for someone to become superstitious over something I know little about though I doubt they would. I believe Mind Impacts energy but I know people go too far creating misjudgments, lie to themselves, or get superstitious with Law of attraction. Also I said shape shifting was Law of attraction but I heard its an illusion one gives off to other individuals. Apparently invisibility works the same way too. I should probably wait till I turn invisible to give you true feedback though lol.
Anyway I'm attempting to follow a more structure and patient practice when it comes to these things. Experimenting, jumping to conclusions, and overconfidence in my abilities has gotten me into enough trouble in the past.

[soli]

I know this is an old post, but reading it I have to admit that sometimes I talk about things without being an expert. At times I'll let a statement or person rub me the wrong way and I'll babble like an expert when really I'm a novice at this. I'd hate for someone to become superstitious over something I know little about though I doubt they would. I believe Mind Impacts energy but I know people go too far creating misjudgments, lie to themselves, or get superstitious with Law of attraction. Also I said shape shifting was Law of attraction but I heard its an illusion one gives off to other individuals. Apparently invisibility works the same way too. I should probably wait till I turn invisible to give you true feedback though lol.
Anyway I'm attempting to follow a more structure and patient practice when it comes to these things. Experimenting, jumping to conclusions, and overconfidence in my abilities has gotten me into enough trouble in the past.

hum, I don't like labels. If we could only talk about matters if we were an expert then no one really would talk about anything for who is to judge us properly but we ourselves in comparison to those who may or may not know more than us? It is probably better to always think you're a "novice" because the odds are there will always be something with a far greater amount of experience and knowledge than you. Anyone who reads anything should never blindly believe what they read or even take it into consideration if they don't feel it is a logical truth resonating with their personal understandings. Like right now, I am just some random person spewing information, as that is what we are and will always be.

[Fresco]

I've put "Law of Attraction" into my life last month and I can already feel and see it starting to work.
Its the little things in life that start going your way.

Also by eliminating all negative thoughts you become much more at peace with yourself.  I wouldnt say I was terribly negative before this, but I dont think I was 100% positive either.  Somewhere in between

[Jilt]

Yes, I have no doubt LOA works and it's much like raising your vibration when you're in an OOBE (however in the astral you see the results immediately unlike in the physical there's manifestational time lag).

Since I've been applying the LOA the last decade EVERYTHING in my life has improved and I can honestly say there is nothing I want that I don't have (money, relationships, houses, cars, health, physical appearance, state of mind).

You'll even find people treat you differently than they treat others since you're putting out a vibe they respond to -- some believe you're getting the parallel reality 'version' of them that matches you (i.e. my mother is a nut-case with the rest of my siblings but perfectly charming and sane with me). You'll find that everything that happens in your life (not in the world, mind you, that's where most people get off-track) is a direct reflection of your state of mind.

I'm a big Abraham-Hicks fan and the youtube clips pretty much cover any topic. She mentioned the other day that people who experience OOBEs have a temporary lack of resistant thought (this is where meditation comes in) so they're able to experience and remember the bliss of sleep when we automatically merge back into non-physical source energy. For me this explains the delicious bliss I feel during an OOBE which is nearly impossible to achieve awake.

[Fresco]

I'm a big Abraham-Hicks fan and the youtube clips pretty much cover any topic

Can you post these clips for me, please??  I wanna have a listen to them.

TIA 

[Fresco]

NVM I found them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTb6mKAwftA

If anyone has any additional tapes of her then please post them in this thread.

TIA