Wall paintings in Giza

[Volgerle]

He has upset just about everybody. There was the scientist who confirmed the base of the sphinx had been damaged by water over a long period of time, Robert Bauvall, Graham Hancock and quite a few others. He insists that the pyramids were built 4000 years ago as tombs for the Pharaohs, in spite of the evidence suggesting otherwise. He refuses to let anyone use ground penetrating radar in search of the hall of records. He won't be around come December 31 2012 with any luck

these guys here from a university in Ukraine go even much further than just 5000 years ... MUCH further ... into the past ...

http://mgu.bg/geoarchmin/naterials/64Manichev.pdf

"The absolute mark of the upper large erosion hollow of the Sphinx corresponds to the level of water surface which took place in the Early
Pleistocene. The Great Egyptian Sphinx had already stood on the Giza Plateau by that geological (historical) time."

[personalreality]

And after reading "The Stargate Conspiracy", I don't know how I feel about Graham Hancock, Bauvall their cohort.  And it wasn't Bauvall that found the water damage, it was Robert Schoch.  He's actually a geologist, not a "new age archaeologist" who meshes new age metaphysics with the study of alternative history.  Bauvall was the guy who wrote about how the pyramids are aligned to mirror orions belt (which isn't 100% accurate).

[astraladdict]

That actually seems like an interesting read PR

~astraladdict

[personalreality]

It was a good book, though it sucked for me when i first read it because I was really in to Hancock, Bauval, et al, and this book pretty much shows that they (along with the likes of Richard C. Hoagland - whom i was also into, but stookie presented me with some evidence of his trickery) are stretching the facts to fit their theories in order to sell some idea of a 2012 something or other.  Actually when the book was written I think they were pushing a new millennium thing.  Anyway, it was a bit depressing, but it makes sense.

[astraladdict]

It seems that the people with TONS of ACTUAL experience and knowledge, don't make books :/
You can't blame them, humans these days will just label the person as crazy.

~astraladdict

[greenpen]

And after reading "The Stargate Conspiracy", I don't know how I feel about Graham Hancock, Bauvall their cohort.  And it wasn't Bauvall that found the water damage, it was Robert Schoch.  He's actually a geologist, not a "new age archaeologist" who meshes new age metaphysics with the study of alternative history.  Bauvall was the guy who wrote about how the pyramids are aligned to mirror orions belt (which isn't 100% accurate).

Robert Schock is the man that said those ancient ruins found off the coast of Japan were natural formations. Since when have straight lines and stepped terraces been natural formations?

[Volgerle]

Robert Schock is the man that said those ancient ruins found off the coast of Japan were natural formations. Since when have straight lines and stepped terraces been natural formations?

yes, he is somehow unpredictable and seemingly erratic in his conclusions, he also negates the validity of the Bosnian pyramids (which I linked here recently) joining the 'skeptics camp' here

on the other hand, he shows that he has got his own mind and does not bow down to any dogma. as it seems, he does not (want to) belong to any faction, neither the orthodox nor 'alternative' history camp, that certainly deserves my respect

[personalreality]

that's just it. 

Schoch is a geologist, not an archaeologist, so he sees things through the filter of his training.  While an archaeologist is trained to look for other sorts of patterns.  Thus, their opinions will often be different. 

And Schoch isn't part of the "new archaeology club" with people like Bauval and Hancock.  He's just a geologist who got a little fame by re-dating the sphinx.

[Volgerle]

And Schoch isn't part of the "new archaeology club" with people like Bauval and Hancock.  He's just a geologist who got a little fame by re-dating the sphinx.

on the other hand: according to his website, he is into paranormal stuff, too
http://www.robertschoch.com/parapsychology.html

[spacecat]

it means "NCC-1701"

[personalreality]

it means "NCC-1701"

lol!  good job friend, good job indeed.