Illuminati?

[HiRes]

I'll bring this back... I HATE the move insidious, the way they make people believe AP is. Just horrible 

~astraladdict

oh god, I know exactly what you mean... it is a good movie, in the sense it has to do with APing, but the fact that it makes it look bad, is just kills me.. >.> when I watched it I made sure everyone knew that was not possible while APing.
But yes, I HATE that movie as well >.>

[Lionheart]

 The only positive thing I got from that movie was the Spinning Top that he uses. It really is a great focus tool.

[personalreality]

Makes you wonder that maybe the "Elite" have things set up so they can feed off of our energy whenever we talk about them. Energy vamps they are 

~astraladdict

I've been saying that about monroe for a looonnng time

[astraladdict]

oh god, I know exactly what you mean... it is a good movie, in the sense it has to do with APing, but the fact that it makes it look bad, is just kills me.. >.> when I watched it I made sure everyone knew that was not possible while APing.
But yes, I HATE that movie as well >.>

I don't like the fact that it's implanting fear into people about the subject entirely.

I've been saying that about monroe for a looonnng time

Do you think it's not only him? It could be the others "majors" who write books as well.

~astraladdict

[Xanth]

I don't like the fact that it's implanting fear into people about the subject entirely.

"It" is doing no implanting... any fear base reactions are the ones you choose to enact upon yourself.

Do you think it's not only him? It could be the others "majors" who write books as well.

I always thought Robert Bruce was EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL!!! 

[HiRes]

"It" is doing no implanting... any fear base reactions are the ones you choose to enact upon yourself.

Yes, this is very true. But, sadly the movie does not explain this in its presentation.
It does present a "demonic essence" taking over a human being, because he AP'd to save his son from another "demonic essence".

With just this information, the natural person (that has either kinda heard about AP'ing, or not heard about it at all) is going to assume that it is a dangerous thing.
There for, it is stopping people from becoming more spiritually aware about things in general.
You don't honestly see that many people going around all the time talking about how great AP'ing is, as it would label them crazy. Yes, there may be large groups of people out there that get together or try to spread the word. But, this doesn't mean that everyone in the entire world has ever met some one who has AP'd, and loves to talk about it. Thus why I hate the movie. The movie has affected people, if only a few, from having this experience.

Just my pennies worth

[Lionheart]

 Do any of you think the Collective Conscience is responsible for the riots in England? I believe alot of people are rioting without knowing why. First Egypt, then Syria, now England. Is there a possibility that what David Wilcock said about the Source Field is true? These people might just be getting the impulses in their dreams when they travel, but don't know it on their conscious scale. That's a scary thought if it is true, because who's next and better yet how could you ever stop it?

[astraladdict]

Who knows, anything is possible. Even if someone does know though, they'll have a hard time proving it.

~astraladdict

[Karas]

I'm suprized that the riots are taking place now cause I was exspecting this to happen next year, unless it's gona build up and gets worst next year then they can put on a space show for us and fulfill there last fake bible prophecy. They are just to advance for us....

[Xanth]

Do any of you think the Collective Conscience is responsible for the riots in England? I believe alot of people are rioting without knowing why. First Egypt, then Syria, now England. Is there a possibility that what David Wilcock said about the Source Field is true? These people might just be getting the impulses in their dreams when they travel, but don't know it on their conscious scale. That's a scary thought if it is true, because who's next and better yet how could you ever stop it?

What we see in our society, I believe is a direct reflect OF the mindset of our society.  Expect more.

[astraladdict]

I'm suprized that the riots are taking place now cause I was exspecting this to happen next year, unless it's gona build up and gets worst next year then they can put on a space show for us and fulfill there last fake bible prophecy. They are just to advance for us....

I agree. It's like they tease and tease so when the moment comes BOOOM, we just 'spload all oveer the place

~astraladdict

[Stookie_]

I don't like the fact that it's implanting fear into people about the subject entirely.

Sort of like this thread. There's a lot of fear-based conjecture.

[Xanth]

Sort of like this thread. There's a lot of fear-based conjecture.

Who needs the Illuminati!  We're doing great on our own. 

[DayTripper]

Wow. I found all these posts so random and amusing. From michael jackson to the illuminati, the pole shifts, spiritual growth, insidious? lol. But for the record that movie upset me too, they always take beautiful things and turn them into something evil nowadays. To be honest, I'm extremely thankful to have the mindset I do about the world. I can't imagine being one of my friends who tells me I'm going to become "possessed" from APing. 

[Lionheart]

 Perhaps the movie was some kind of indirect way to get people to avoid any kind of "Conscious Aware". Just like the Aliens are bad thing, how many movies have been made showing Aliens in a positive way compared to all the Evil Aliens movies? Scaring people into submission works.

[astraladdict]

I thought that before. Fear is a big tactic they use.

~astraladdict

[kailaurius]

Yes, Hollywood appears to have developed an OCD on alien invasion movies lately.  I mean I know they made a lot in the 50s and 60s, but lately they've gone crazy with it.  Another one coming out this December.

http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi1177852953/

[Xanth]

I thought that before. Fear is a big tactic they use.

Addict, that's what we're trying to say here...

Who's doing the fearing though?
Are they (whoever "they" are)?
Or are YOU causing more fear by spreading statements that are probably false.

Who's causing the most damage?

[astraladdict]

Addict, that's what we're trying to say here...

Who's doing the fearing though?
Are they (whoever "they" are)?
Or are YOU causing more fear by spreading statements that are probably false.

Who's causing the most damage?

Well the both of us knew that since this thread got started it would cause all kinds of problems depending on the individual. i'm just tossing around the ideas about what the elite are doing. You can only think forwards, never backwards.

~astraladdict

[personalreality]

Forget about the intangibly ambiguous superstitious fear mongering. 

That's not the point.

The point is that in true Machiavellian fashion, these guys (whatever you want to call them, illuminati, brotherhood [as in the great white...], whatever) are perpetuating violence between human beings in order to keep us imprisoned in a material hell on earth.  It's not about creating fear (well it kind of is - fear that begets war).  It's about exerting influence from every angle so as to keep the "subjects" (us) perpetually at odds with each other, thereby neglecting the single most important rule for human civilization, the golden rule.

This is what I hate about so-called conspiracy theories.  The connotation is always so negative and anyone who is interested gets labelled as a nutter.  Conspiracy has become a dirty world synonymous with tin foil hats, JFK and UFOs.  And this is ridiculous because conspiracy is all around us all the time.

con·spire/kənˈspī(ə)r/Verb
1. Make secret plans jointly to commit an unlawful or harmful act.
2. (of events or circumstances) Seem to be working together to bring about a particular result, typically to someone's detriment

Most of us probably do that on a daily basis.  Our world governments do it constantly.  It doesn't have to be outlandish.  So then the question is, if we do it and our governments do it regularly, why is it so hard to believe that some of the atrocities in this world were carried out intentionally thorough "elite people" conspiring against others?

You don't have to be afraid of it or attach metaphysical/emotional stigmas to it.  Conspiracies happen all the time and just because some conspiracies are stupid, shouldn't discount all of them.  This stuff is a lot more down to earth than people like to think about.

[Xanth]

hehe nutter

[Lionheart]

 If it was possible and they could, they definitely would! If they could weaponize Alpha Bits cereal they most likely would have, just an example, lol.

[SomeRandom]

I get the feeling "they" are creating all this bad, to create good.

[HiRes]

I get the feeling "they" are creating all this bad, to create good.

Why would god allow the elite to control everything like they do?
Because, them control us will be what gets us through this era so we can progress to the next. If the "lucifer experiment" had never been created (by consciousness) it would have causes us to go extinct. (for more information, go watch all of these videos, they are extremely interesting.. plus I want the next video to come out! and I believe until more people start watching these videos and our society can start progressing in evolution.. again souly my belief, no one elses)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDMzvJOu9vQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppTq5XRk35g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQgxFOYrJ_4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsCAFmAIslg
... there are over 12 of them, but it all connects.

[Lionheart]

 Here is a video that should go Viral on the internet. It speaks so mcuh truth and I think everyone should see it. Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OpglZVe2fg&feature=player_embedded