My Phasing Journel

[blossom123]

Let me talk about the box.  It is hard to visualize the box.  I have not yet asked him about his own box. 

Let me elaborate on something.  In the past, a few times, when meditating, I can feel myself in the first person moving gently along..  And I am speaking of visualization.  I know many people when they visualize their energy hands or energy body, it is in the second person so to speak, like it is not really them --but it does need to actually be them in the first person.  A few times, I have felt it in the first person which is awesome.  And this is what I am trying to do with the box.  I don't want it to be some preconceived item that "I know" is not really there.  I want to feel it in it's reality like my energy hands.  Does that make sense? 

The box is difficult for me.  So listening to this first tape a second time will be good for me as well.  Tonight when I go to bed, I will work on this box and trying to visualize it and make it real.

[light487]

My box is one of those big city dumpsters with the big metal lids.. hehehehe.. I know what you mean though about wanting it to be real and what makes it real to me is when I visualise turning away from it. You know how when you are, physically, standing in a place and you know what is behind you? Like right now I am at my desk at work and my colleague is behind me, his desk, all the things on his desk, the window and all the stuff beyond the window are behind me. When I turn away from the box, I make extra effort to "sense" the box behind me just as if I was looking through my own physical eyes and sensing what I know is behind me. I find it helps if I don't just turn 180 degrees and stand there.. but also walk away from the box (in my mind of course!) a little way.. maybe towards or down a short path, knowing that it is there but also moving away from it.

However, I tend not to move too far away from it because something else I noticed when I was listening to tape 2 was that if I get an errant thought about some physical matter after I have moved beyond that stage, I can quickly chuck the thought "over my shoulder" into the box.. opening the lid with my mind quickly and stuffing the thought in there before quickly closing it again. Seems to work well.

Normally when I visualise something, I see it like I would in a dream. It is just an object either floating in nothingness, or it is on something that I am also visualising (such as my desk at home). Instead of "seeing" it with my own non-physical eyes (or from my viewpoint), in a dream (and before this) I would see it from some displaced point of view.. like when you're in a dream you can see yourself rather than looking from "within" yourself (or more correctly, "through" yourself). When I was visualising my box, I found that I had to consciously decide to "look at it" with my own mind's eyes, as if it was right in front of me. Then, when I turned away, I also concentrated on the sense of actually looking forward toward a pathway and perceiving just as if I was walking along the pathway, away from the box.

Anyway, the other point I want to make is that there is nothing that says your box can't be a little jewllery box, or a safe deposit box, or magical box with glowing energy sides and top.. whatever you interpret the narrator to mean by "box" is entirely up to you and it is your first thought/idea that is generally the "right" one for you. So if you have a box that bares no resemblance to anything from the physical world, that's fine! Whatever works for you, as long as you're following along with the concepts of the techniques.. a box is something you store things in.. etc

[blossom123]

My husband has no problem with the box....... He visualizes a gun box he made that we keep in the back of the house.  It is about 2' tall and 4' long with a huge lock on it.  It is personal and close to his heart so I understand why he would use that.

My box, while listening to the tape, would change conceptually every single time it was mentioned in the tape.  It was a floating point to me.  I went from using the box shape of our wood burning stove, to a big cardboard box, to a box around 1x1 feet in size of some unk material type.....  I like the idea of a dumpster however.  A dumpster also symbolically represents exactly what I am supposed to be using it for as well. I think that is an excellent choice.  

When I was visualising my box, I found that I had to consciously decide to "look at it" with my own mind's eyes, as if it was right in front of me. Then, when I turned away, I also concentrated on the sense of actually looking forward toward a pathway and perceiving just as if I was walking along the pathway, away from the box.

You understand what I am trying to do.  

Ok.  I have lots to think on for today.  We will repeat lesson one tape tonight.  

You know in thinking on WHY I am having trouble with the box, I think it has to do with all my prior meditative attempts.  In all my meditations in the past, unguided meditations, you tend to think of "nothing"  and are instructed to shut the conscious mind down and think of nothing and stop all mindless thought flow and now this box is being brought into the equation - and consciously brought in.  That is different and I think that is where my difficulty is coming from.  I am going to have to stop any preconceived notions or ideas I might have had or learned in the past and let the flow from these lessons be only what they are and nothing more.

Thank you light.  Time to drink coffee now and start my day..  You know I actually woke up 45 minutes earlier than usual
and quite refreshed.....  Have a great day!

Jenn

[blossom123]

This is the link to my original posting of my obe back in 2002...  IN fact, after this experience, is how I found Robert Bruce and astral pulse...  I don't know my old password and that associated email no longer exists so I just created a new username which is blossom123.  Someone might find it interesting.  I still do.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/my_only_obe-t1856.0.html;msg117591#msg117591

[blossom123]

Day 2 has arrived........

[blossom123]

I am Jennifers husband Juan, I did tape two, it was relaxing.



--Ok as you can see --> he is a big talker  .  He wanted to do tape 2 so that's what we doing.  Now my turn -- Jenn

[blossom123]

I am going to do tape 2 again later.  This first time I am not sure what to think.  I was very distracted.  I could hear the dogs outside.  I was uncomfortable in how I was laying.  My thoughts were jumbled.  My knee kept itching.  I need to do it again in a different state of mind. 

It is hard to say right now.  I think I will like it and if I am in the correct state of mind I think I will get to focus 10 but I did not get to focus 10.  I listened all the way though because I needed to finish the tape but I KNOW I am not ready to move on.  This is a repeat.  I will post more when house is quiet and I have redone this tape.

Jenn

[Xanth]

To work around distracting sounds, try to visualize the sounds washing over and around you... don't allow them a chance to stick to you and distract you.
The more you practice this, the easier it'll be to ignore any sounds that occur. 

[light487]

Remember also that F10 is simply BodyAsleep/MindAwake state.. so you should still be fully aware of all your surroundings, including your body (though since its "asleep" you probably won't feel all that much).. When I first did Tape 2, I was thinking of F10 as a non-physical state but really it isn't.. it's just a step towards that.. I really need to get rid of my expectations when I do these, so I share that realisation with you. As I was getting to the end of Tape 3, today, I felt I didn't want to stop here.. I wanted to keep going further.. but then I reminded myself that this is a process and these tapes at the beginning are setting me up for the rest.. installing the programs I need to run the more exciting programs

[blossom123]

I re-did tape two and I was at focus 10 both times I believe.  It's just different not going further I guess......  It was much better this time.  I was more relaxed and I got into it with the house quiet and also lay on the couch instead of on the chaise lounge.....  I felt floaty...  And I guess maybe I also was thinking focus 10 was more of a non physical sensation and maybe that was my earlier discontent with it.  I want more than what I am getting.  Or I want faster than what is being given to me....

I am fixing to do the third tape.  It's Friday and I have time on my hands .  House is quiet and husband is asleep.  More later...............jenn

[blossom123]

Loved the third tape by the way.  It is becoming more like I am expecting....Husband is heading to town to get a few animal items and then maybe this morning we'll do it.

I am seeing a pattern that when my tapes end that I can continue myself.  This is my programming.  I'm sure there will be many more but this morning as sit here thinking and reflecting on what has occured the past three days, this is what I see as a pattern so far.  I will update this list as the tapes go further and as I progress.

Steps for Gateway OBE.
1)  Throw away all my cares, worries and any physical matter in the box of my creation.
2)  Resonate tuning by breathing in fresh white air all the way up to the top of my head and then exhaling all stale energy from my body.
3)  Creating my spiral energy body balloon to contain my energy and to protect me from other external energy that is undesirable.  Impenetrable unless I breach it myself willingly. (What gets me about this is that after this point, I should be able to create this circle of energy at will.  I take a deep breathe and think of a circle with the number 10 inside it for focus 10, and then as I exhale, I exhale my protective circle of energy around me..awesome!!!)

So I am seeing each tape is adding a step...  I must learn this well.....  Today we will listen to tape three.  Him for the first time and me for the second.  

You know I actually think my husband might have the advantage over me regarding these tapes.  He has no preconceived notions of OBE's like I do.  It is all just new to him. He has no expectations but I know he is enjoying them.  Yesterday when we got home, he was the one that suggested "it's time to do our tape"....  I asked him yesterday if he felt anything odd at all or questioned him if he was really getting into it.  And he said "YES".  

I would like to point out that Juan does believe we are a creation of energy and that we can direct that energy because he SAW ME heal myself once in the hospital when I had e-coli of the bloodstream after a surgery.  I had a hysterectomy and went home and had to come back as my fever spiked to 104-105.  I was extremely ill and they had to readmit me.  I nearly died.  They determined through blood work that I had "negative gram factor T" in my blood which is e-coli.  After they got my fever under control (the next day), and Juan had fell asleep by the bed, I weakly shuffled outside with my IV pole and went to our truck in the parking lot, got inside, and directed all my energy to my blood to try and heal myself.  It took about 45 minutes to do and I knew when I was healed when a miracle had occurred.  I was crying when it was over.  It felt so miraculous.  I felt my blood grow hot in my body and I could feel my veins throughout my body and I could feel the blood flow in my body.  As I sat there I could feel the blood cool back to normal.  I sat there in awe.  I KNEW I was healed.  There was no doubt what had occurred to me.  When I returned to my room and told Juan I was healed, he thought I was crazy and he was livid with anger.  The doctor, Juan and the nurses had been looking for me as it was time to draw my blood again and I was missing from the hospital.  I laughed and told them all that I had been healed.   They drew my blood and they found NOTHING.  It baffled the doctors and nurses and the disease specialist they had called in.  Energy CAN be directed.  I am living proof.  It was my intent and I'm not sure how I did it, but when I did it, I knew I was successful. I quit my antibiotics.  Refused the home health that they had previously been setting up for me and never filled their prescriptions.  It was not necessary and they did not understand.  It was my own personal miracle.  My directed flow of energy.  My manipulation.  My change.  When it happens there is no doubt.

My little linear husband, however,  is for the first time taking a ride on the side-roads that I have always visited.... And he is finally going willingly...  OMG, his first OBE is going to blow him away.......!

I am loving this..........

Jenn

[blossom123]

House is quiet.  Fixing to repeat the 3rd lesson......

[blis]

I'm loving this thread. Watching your excitement unfold as you work through the tapes and try and hold yourself back. Your husband the skeptic getting pulled in. Great stuff.

Inspires me to go back and try the gateway experience again. I have them all but never got past wave 2(got side tracked with other stuff)

[blossom123]

Ok blis,,,,  get those tapes out!!  Maybe several of us could have a joint effort and compare experiences.  I think it would be awesome!!

I'm not sure if the other tapes are longer but so far it's only 30-40 minutes a day...  Most people (but us) sit in front of the TV for that long every single day.  Use it for gateway....  I need to clarify here.  We don't do that because we decided several years ago to get rid of all TV bills.  We live way out in the country and if we feel inclined, we rent a movie.  We read, we swim, we walk and other other things.  But tv is not one of our past-times.  And now we have added Gateway to our series of "things to do on a daily basis".

Join us blis........ or at least think about it.


Jenn

[light487]

I went on to Tape 4 last night and found that it had lifted the level of "assumption" much higher than I anticipated. While I have little trouble with the box, the resonant tuning, the energy bubble and getting to Focus 10.. it was the fact that I was unable to remember the full "affirmation" (ie. "I am more than my physical body. Because I am more than physical matter" and so on) that had me wondering if I'd gone too fast through the tapes. However, the third tape doesn't do the affirmation at all.. then suddenly in the 4th you have to remember it all yourself. Not that it is such a big deal I guess.. I knew the general concepts surrounding the affirmation and just made up my own to suit those concepts but it would be much better if it was the same because of consistency. So what I might do is go back to Tape 1 and 2.. do both again. From what I know, Frank Kepple used to do them 3 or 4 times a day for each tape before moving on to the next one.. at least this is how I understood what he was saying. Maybe I need to write the affirmation out a few times, so I can remember it via visualising the paper I wrote it on.. I don't know..

I'll definitely be redoing the 4th tape though, not just because of the above but also because of the technique/method presented in the 4th. I really didn't understand what I was supposed to be doing. I tried my best but now that I have had some time to think about it, I think I know what is needed and understand it a bit more. So I will try again.. I think it is a very important step because when having OBEs, you need to remain unemotional and without fear or other strong feelings.. you need to reach a point where you can deal with ANY situation with a serene and curious mind.. just an observer etc

[blossom123]

wow, that's interesting.....  I have not done tape 3 for the second time yet.  We got side tracked and have been painting and remolding in the kitchen which seems to be a never ending process...  We will do the tape later on.  3-4 times a day.... ok...  I actually might can do that twice a day....  I have the PDF of Franks notes but have not read them in their entirety yet.... ok.

[blossom123]

Since reading Lights post, I was compelled to go back and search through franks posts to see what he said about repeating a tape.  OMG, he listened to the Introductory tape for three months, even at night with "repeat" on.  He said he must have listened to it approx 300 times.

So, tonight, I am going to listen to tape 3 all night on a very low volume in the repeat mode.  I have the couch all set up. That's as far as my head phones reach even with their extension cord.  We use the computer to listen to the cd's as we don't have a portable player.     But I will have one soon.

Next week when we get back to town in our working mode, I am going to get some sort of portable CD player so I can listen and actually lay in the bed to listen instead of using the couch.

Franks idea is a great idea!  Listen once consciously and then listen all night.  Juan is absolutely adamant about NOT listening all night. He says he tosses around too much and would not be able to keep the headphones on.  So now I am thinking of the pillow I saw recently that has headphones built into it.   For me -- headphones will work just fine.  We'll have to see how this idea plays out.

I am finally finished in the kitchen and have sat and stared at it in amazment.  Looks very good.  We live in a 110 year old house.  It was built in 1902.   A big old farmhouse so there is always something to do or something that needs fixing.

So now I begin.....  The house is quiet and the timing is perfect.  Tape 3.

jenn

 

[blossom123]

Juan is going first.....  he is doing his right now.

[blossom123]

Ok, Juan just finished and he said he wants to repeat lesson 3.  He said he is having trouble keeping his stuff in the box.  I told him what I had read but he really doesn't want to discuss it.  But he is having box problems......like me.

[blossom123]

I just read this........
Very heavy stuff but also very simple.

Our minds are not "in" any body at all, physical or otherwise. The mind will simply manufacture
a suitable bodily vehicle that will best serve its needs on whichever plane of existence it happens
to be focussed within. The physical is no different in this respect.

Courtesy of Frank.


Jenn

[blossom123]

We are going to be at step 3 for awhile.  I absolutely cannot get through it without spacing out and losing track of time and then just coming back around with no idea what just occurred.  This has happened with three conscious efforts to hear it through.   

We are both repeating it today.  I listened to it till 3am on the couch droning in my ears.

[light487]

Yes, the first two are pretty easy to get through.. no problems at all. The 3rd, with the introduction of the Energy Bubble, did give me some trouble as I couldn't get it quite right. I was constantly re-examining what I was doing.. should I be visualising it from a displaced point of view, or from a point of view of looking through my eyes and sensing the parts I wouldn't be able to see or should I be doing both. It's not a big deal, I'm sure, but it's an observation I made when I was going through the tape: that I was constantly realigning my awareness, making it difficult to hold on to the visualisation.

[blossom123]

Juan cut himself putting tin on the roof.  It took 45 min for the paramedics to get to our remote house.  He has a 9cm cut on top of his head and he sliced an artery. He lost nearly 1.5 to 2 liters of blood. He is fixing to spend his second night in the hospital.  They care-flighted him off.   He told me today while I had him on the ground applying pressure to his head,  he was trying to throw his cares in the box to remain calm....omg.....

When he got to the hospital, his bp was 60/40.. He nearly bled to death.

I'm home changing the sheets, getting things ready for him.  I think he comes home tomorrow.  I'm fixing to head back to the hospital.

Jenn

[bluremi]

Oh, wow, good thing he's okay.

[Xanth]

Oh my god... I'm sorry to hear of the troubles!
I'm glad that everything is going to be fine though.