I may invoke a djinn. We will all die or be imprisoned soon anyway

[Ident]

The problem for the average citizen, though, Rudolph, is that there's zero accountability. If "the government" says you're a terrorist then they can hold you for an indefinite period without further discussion. You have no right or ability of appeal. You have no rights in the matter at all. The bill is a contravention of the Bill of Rights.

I might be getting confused with the UK version of this bill but I understand that it's even a crime for anyone else to talk about your detention and they too can be held for doing so. The bill means that anyone can be taken and held simply on the say-so of someone in government.

[DrasticMeasures]

I'm sure there are less drastic measures to take! (Ahaha...ha...my username is DrasticMeasures...it's not a name I've used before. Mwahaha It must be fate... ...not the real, scary, fate...just, y'know. humorous fate. .... ok, i'm done.)

Anyway. I've begun practicing a religion that's new to me just recently, one that's based around Greek paganism. Supplicate to a God or something. It's like praying, but more defixiones-y. I don't suggest attacking anyone per se, but instead, well, I don't know if it's your style, but, asking your God or Gods to do something about what's making you so upset might help. They've always come to my aid, even if they don't always listen to exactly what I want. They know more than I do, anyway, being Gods and all.

[Chaos Mage]

Public Trust.
Can the citizens trust the government?
Is there a point in a government when they have too much to themselves and not enough shared with the populace?  What about the space program?  What about laser technology and alternative battle gear?

Some people understand that there is a limit to the extent by which a government can exert force to detain an individual.  Usually, they have policing agencies which handle the situation 'on the ground'.  The real government is a high class, full societal package.  I've even thought that a member of government, as a government paid, protected, and functional unit, has privileges within the entire world of 'high class'.

So these people want to be protected.  They don't want thieves snooping around their cabins and poking around in their business.  Many of the people who support the government are business owners, and these also extend to their employees.  So when you have a society that is based around money and force, the result is that there begins to be signs of oppression of lower class people.

I've never personally made a distinction between high, mid, or low class.  I see the soveriegn right of every soul born sound or ill to be the ultimate authority in their own lives.  A cosmic perspective, a vantage that tells of a legacy of life, that each soul is it's own power and God Given right to wield that soul in the pursuit of a greater happiness.  And because of this, and the perversion of sexual desire, we have people who support the government to keep their rights intact.  There is a different strategy for every person, and some, who have gained the Illumination Of Christ, so we will say, these are not even living in fear of death, for they have maintained their cosmic perspective and are yet in tune with the Holy, the Source, and the blessed heart of Truth and Magick.

Ok I'm done.  That was just a ramble, but certainly, there are places on earth where there is no central government.  They are trying to remedy that situation, but truthfully, people that are not acquainted with modern media or technology prefer to live on the land, though, for a time, some may break away to live in among greater human densities in cities.  I say, let the forests grow back, and let's return to what we were doing before all this happened.  Or just keep going as we are, and hope that sanity and honor to life will prevail over tyranny and force.


Keep the peace.  Trust those you know you can trust.  When people break your trust, or you break their's you see that it's almost impossible to repair it.  And because of this, people get pulled down into lower class scenarios, and are eventually victimized by all sides of the political/capitolist/criminal elements.

[psychedelia]

fyi we have rights man just limited rights(a 100% free nation would be a terrible place to live no rules or laws governing the wellness of the nations would be terrible){but i will say some laws are bnot right). its the people like you who are the reason its getting this way........if its such a big concern of yours get involved and try to make a difference or just leave find a new place to live instead of complaining about it. and just to add insult to injury here no place is perfect life is a B**** get use to it let her take ya down or fight back.

[psychedelia]

and for nazi germany comments your over reacting reflect on what they did and what we are doing yes america has some corrupt aspects but ya know what nazi germany was not corrupt just twisted in there ways. your making a total off subject reference to how america is becoming. if your gonna make a claim make sure it makes sense first.

[psychedelia]

oh and ps.....black magic?? really how is that gonna solve our nations problems?? try getting off your dead a** and instead of trying to invoke in black magic actually try to do the economical thing and get involved.      in school did you yopu complain about getting bad grades?? either way would the solution be to play a video game to forget about it? no studying and making a difference would be the key solution there