almost had it!! (excerpt from dream journal)

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Verdant

this excerpt is from my most recent dream journal entry, I figured it warrants its own post since it is VERY much astral projection related.

well aside from the freak-out of an ending and lack of success, at least I found my perfect time for projection practice :D

QuoteI think this dream was almost a WILD, cause I went in fairly lucid but hazy as hell. The dream started up immediately with my intent to project, that was the goal, as my vision cleared up I was in a maze of a grass field and colored energy walls. The walls had holes in them, so I started flying through each hole, trying to get to the other side, as I flew.

now that I look back, I was passing through colors that resembled the rainbow/chakras, Not sure what to make out of that.

then things got really meta in the dream, it was like I was being pulled back to my body, i had my hands slightly held out past my pillow for some reason, but I paid no attention to it as I could see the maze landscape through my fingers- as if my hands had held open a portal to that area.

as I went through each respective hole in the wall, I felt like there was a barrier I needed to just SMASH through to absolutely make it, then it hit me! That wooden wall I met in my most recent vivid experience, THAT is what I needed to smash through!

so I tried to hunt it down, going through an assortment of other barriers, hearing that fabled wooshing noise, but I just couldn't quite find it, I smashed through something, but I didn't really feel a shattering sound... and didn't feel that I made it.

so I woke up- straight into a false awakening, and I didn't even know it.

I looked outside, and saw my mom and brother in red shirts, the were staring at me with a grin that they had seen something funny... I was like "oh excrement," I felt exposed and infuriated.

then I woke up, in my default sleeping position, not with my hands out and confused as all just what the HELL was that last part?

proyect_outzone

In fact your "dream" was an out of body experience. The astral environment does not allways look like the real environment. Even the most real looking environments have mostly small deviations from the reality.

Many people, who make lucid dreaming without believing in out of body experiences declare such experiences as dreams (just because they dont believe in OBEs). This causes a big problem of distinguishing out of body experiences and Lucid dreams.

Lionheart

Quote from: proyect_outzone on July 02, 2013, 16:53:49
Many people, who make lucid dreaming without believing in out of body experiences declare such experiences as dreams (just because they dont believe in OBEs). This causes a big problem of distinguishing out of body experiences and Lucid dreams.
Five star quote of the day!  *****  :-)

Verdant

Huh. Well the reason I feel like I failed is because of three reasons,
1. being that I thought that projection is suposed to feel as real as waking,  Which it didn't.
2. being how short it was,
3. Being at the end I more or less lost control.

As a matter of clarification, I am far from a stranger to absurdity in either dream or astral,  in fact I find it fun. The. Problem is, I feel like I'm always missing something.


Lionheart

#4
 Many people that are new to AP will only experience a "sneak peek" of the Astral proper at first.

It takes many trips there before you start to learn how to prolong your visits.

This is when you learn things like how to "Ground" and "Anchor" yourself.

Bedeekin

I've just answered a member that is related to this discussing RTZ OOBEs. People tend to want the RTZ to prove it to themselves that it's real and anything not 100% accurate to reality is thrown out with the rest of the 'all in your head' dreams.. regardless of how REAL it seemed.

LightBeam

All of our dreams take place in the astral realms. So, in a way they are indeed OBEs, however only navigated by our subconsciousness. And this is where I differentiate regular dreams from what we call APs. You said that it did not feel to you like waking life, and this is exactly because you did not gain enough awareness in your dream to start navigating consciously, which would feel even more real than the "real" life as you know it. So, your job now, is to raise your inner frequency through meditation and various techniques, so that the moment of realization during dreaming would happen more often. And that is one of the ways to AP, through conversion within lucidity.
By the way, during this episode you described, did you realize at some point that you were dreaming?
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

Verdant

#7
Quote from: Lionheart on July 02, 2013, 19:43:03
Many people that are new to AP will only experience a "sneak peek" of the Astral proper at first.

It takes many trips there before you start to learn how to prolong your visits.

This is when you learn things like how to "Ground" and "Anchor" yourself.

Oh. that is what I was looking for!

Quote from: LightBeam on July 02, 2013, 21:13:18
All of our dreams take place in the astral realms. So, in a way they are indeed OBEs, however only navigated by our subconsciousness. And this is where I differentiate regular dreams from what we call APs. You said that it did not feel to you like waking life, and this is exactly because you did not gain enough awareness in your dream to start navigating consciously, which would feel even more real than the "real" life as you know it. So, your job now, is to raise your inner frequency through meditation and various techniques, so that the moment of realization during dreaming would happen more often. And that is one of the ways to AP, through conversion within lucidity.
By the way, during this episode you described, did you realize at some point that you were dreaming?

At the very end of my dream. Honestly it was more "I felt like I was projecting, then slipped into a dream," rather than realizing I was dreaming.

Astralzombie

QuoteHonestly it was more "I felt like I was projecting, then slipped into a dream," rather than realizing I was dreaming.

This happens to all of us. The reason being is that it requires the exact same state of consciousness. People play baseball one night and the next day, they play football on the same field. So it might help to look at it like it's two different experiences happening in the same place.

I may be wrong but it sounds like you are just beginning (or more accurately, you're just realizing) your journey in the non physical reality. Unless you have some amazing eye-opening experience early on, it will take a lot of time before you are comfortable believing that the NPR has it's own objective existence. Only a madman would believe many of our claims before they've had their own experiences. But that's due to our culture at large but I'm starting to see a subtle yet discernible shift in contemporary thinking.

But back on point, it will most likely take some time before you have an OOBE that is completely indistinguishable from this physical reality. When it finally happens, you will be more aware of who you are, where you are, and what is happening then you ever have been before and will then most likely snap "back" due to overwhelming excitement. If it's like my experience, you'll be drunk with giddiness and know that your understanding of reality will never be the same.

It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
Mark Twain

Verdant

well holy crap guys! I became lucid this morning, I feel like we're gettin' somewhere- two days in a friggin' row!

Quotepart 2 - car crash lucidity

this part was kinda strange, I was riding a main road in the car with my brother, when for some reason he lost control and crashed into the nearby cornfield. I woke up, went back to sleep, and we were on the same road, same car, when my brother spun out of control.

we went off the main road, went onto one of the roads leading to my house when thing started to get trippy. we reached a top of the hill when suddenly I was outside of the car, spinning around on the font of the hood. I slipped off the hood and fell very slowly to the pavement, it was then I started up into the red hood I was wearing and realized I was dream. No signs, just bam, lucidity.

As I was lucid, my dad came up to me, said we're heading home, and went off in the direction towards my house, which is where my dream was taking me.

at this point, I conciously decided the opposite, head back the way I came, I did, and then suddenly transitioned to the next scene.

part 3 - hospital. I'm fine.

for some reason I was in what seemed to be a hospital, but the areas were more shaped after an old day-care room I used to go to (and go to when I picked up my little cousins for whatever). one of my friends was there, he was sick, having a really bad coughing fit, which scared me quite significantly. so while I still had my lucidity, I tried to send energy to him to heal him, I didn't see any energy or anything, but he seemed to have stoppped after he walked off from me.

at that point I lost my lucidity and decided to head to my brother to see how he was doing. he looked like he was undergoing some treatment for something, he was in the hospital bed, wearing a hospital gown, but otherwise seemed to be fine, our parents were with him.

and then I woke up.

I think it must've became a projection during the sequence where everything went slow-mo!