Physical planets with physical, intelligent beings

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ostatni_enterol

Have anyone experienced, journeyed, seen other planets from physical plane with their intelligent life forms? If so, could you please describe them? What were the beings like, what civilization did they build, what progress was achived and what was your personal observations?

Also, if the topic is duplicated and it was already risen on the forum, please be so kind and point me to it.

Lionheart

Quote from: ostatni_enterol on May 13, 2014, 20:32:39
Have anyone experienced, journeyed, seen other planets from physical plane with their intelligent life forms? If so, could you please describe them? What were the beings like, what civilization did they build, what progress was achived and what was your personal observations?

Also, if the topic is duplicated and it was already risen on the forum, please be so kind and point me to it.
There is a ton of threads and posts here based on member's personal experiences in the NPR (Non Physical Realms/Reality).

We have a great search engine here. It's found in the top right hand corner of the page. Just make sure you do your search from the Home page. Otherwise your search will be limited to the "sub forum" you are currently in. Just type a topic heading of what you wish to see and you will be brought to any threads/posts with that word or heading in it.

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Quote from: ostatni_enterol on May 13, 2014, 20:32:39
Have anyone experienced, journeyed, seen other planets from physical plane with their intelligent life forms? If so, could you please describe them? What were the beings like, what civilization did they build, what progress was achived and what was your personal observations?

Also, if the topic is duplicated and it was already risen on the forum, please be so kind and point me to it.

Atlantis.


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Quote from: ostatni_enterol on May 17, 2014, 15:44:52
Could you describe what you have seen?

Atlantians. Technologies beyond our current human comprehension. Let's put it this way: The best way to go to Atlantis is while you are "hidden". Do you have any idea what could potentially happen to any human found sneaking around Atlantis? Atlantians have observed how we, as humans, have a habit of wanting to take control. They have observed how we fight each other, and seen how we fight over such trivial things, such as religion, money and etc. What do you think humans would do if they got their hands on Atlantian technology? That's what they fear. Just imagine that. THAT is the kind of things I have seen. Atlantians are humanoids. I don't know if I'd call them "human", but they are humanoids. I haven't been there more than once or twice, but some intriguing sights are things like tall buildings, and stairways that are so beautiful you could live on them, lol.

ostatni_enterol


Stillwater

QuoteDo you have any idea what could potentially happen to any human found sneaking around Atlantis?

No, what happens to a human sneaking around Atlantis?
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

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Quote from: Stillwater on May 18, 2014, 01:10:38
No, what happens to a human sneaking around Atlantis?

Well I haven't seen it for my own eyes, so don't take this as fact. But what do humans do to other humans when they get a hold of information they aren't suppose to have? That's right, we kill each other. Atlantians have more to protect. They have technology that they won't risk humans getting their hands on....

Volgerle

What makes you so sure it was Atlantis? Was it really a physical Atlantis or an 'astral' one? As far as the legend goes which is in part confirmed by some information from channeling and hypnotic regression, Atlantis was a huge world-wide civilisation on Earth. It was a whole continent (not island) or more that supposedly sank by a few cataclysms and world-wide disasters many thousands of years ago. So you were also time-travelling? Can you confirm the legends (info) from your findings or was what you saw different from that?

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Quote from: Volgerle on May 18, 2014, 16:06:35
What makes you so sure it was Atlantis? Was it really a physical Atlantis or an 'astral' one? As far as the legend goes which is in part confirmed by some information from channeling and hypnotic regression, Atlantis was a huge world-wide civilisation on Earth. It was a whole continent (not island) or more that supposedly sank by a few cataclysms and world-wide disasters many thousands of years ago. So you were also time-travelling? Can you confirm the legends (info) from your findings or was what you saw different from that?

Let's get something straight. Time is stationary, we are not. We age. So I would argue that we are all time traveling right now. If you want to go even further into it, time is just time. There are no years, seconds, days, etc., etc. Those are all man-made measurements that we came up with in order to have a better understanding of time. The astral Atlantis IS the real Atlantis. How? I don't even think "god" knows the answer to that. All I can tell you is that Atlantis disappeared a very long time ago, and the astral is where it can be found. As far as I know, the only thing that is confirmed is that there have been evidence if statues and other artifacts found underwater, which only goes so far back by the way. Yes, I'm sure it is Atlantis. I'm not really educated on all the legends and stuff of Atlantis, so I can't really tell you in detail. I'm not going to sit here and pretend to be an expert or anything. I can only tell you what I've seen. I also wouldn't put all of my faith into channeling and hypnotic regression. People are too easily influenced to be trusted 100% of the time when they've "regressed" something via hypnosis. The reason being is that people like to believe in what they want to, and not the truth. The more they tell themselves something is true, the more they will believe it. I bet those who have "regressed" such information have already been influenced by folklore and the such and have already had expectations of what Atlantis should be from the very start. I'd bet my life on it, lol.

Volgerle

Quote from: AAAAAAAA on May 18, 2014, 16:54:48I bet those who have "regressed" such information have already been influenced by folklore and the such and have already had expectations of what Atlantis should be from the very start. I'd bet my life on it, lol.
... so could be any APer visiting a certain astral 'realm', which could actually be a Belief System Territory, same for Remote Viewers, etc. pp. ... just saying.
:wink:

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Quote from: Volgerle on May 18, 2014, 18:54:03
... so could be any APer visiting a certain astral 'realm', which could actually be a Belief System Territory, same for Remote Viewers, etc. pp. ... just saying.
:wink:

Not everything there is a creation of someone's belief. I also find remote viewing just a waste of time.

Stillwater

QuoteWell I haven't seen it for my own eyes, so don't take this as fact. But what do humans do to other humans when they get a hold of information they aren't suppose to have? That's right, we kill each other. Atlantians have more to protect. They have technology that they won't risk humans getting their hands on....

What means could they possess to assassinate a person from both another time and space? And wouldn't doing that make them just as petty as human?
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

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Quote from: Stillwater on May 18, 2014, 20:19:34
What means could they possess to assassinate a person from both another time and space? And wouldn't doing that make them just as petty as human?

Nah. They have a better purpose for defending then us humans do. Besides, you can meet real people in the astral. There are people just like you and me there. Someone who targets you in the astral can also target you in real life. Believe it or not, it's true. I don't care if you believe me or not, lol.

Stillwater

Yes you can definitely meet real people. I wouldn't say it is impossible for an entity from a non-physical encounter to target someone, but I haven't encountered anyone yet with the apparent focus or will enough to kill by thought.

It isn't so much relevant if I believe you or not, just wanted to see how you reason it.

"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

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Quote from: Stillwater on May 18, 2014, 20:35:42
Yes you can definitely meet real people. I wouldn't say it is impossible for an entity from a non-physical encounter to target someone, but I haven't encountered anyone yet with the apparent focus or will enough to kill by thought.

It isn't so much relevant if I believe you or not, just wanted to see how you reason it.



I'll be blunt about it then. Everyone here seems to think that just because you are limitless in the astral, it means that you are invincible. I am 99.99% sure that all of that is BS.

Xanth

Quote from: AAAAAAAA on May 18, 2014, 20:39:06
I'll be blunt about it then. Everyone here seems to think that just because you are limitless in the astral, it means that you are invincible. I am 99.99% sure that all of that is BS.
What exactly do you think is going to hurt you?

I've been shot, stabbed, bitten, drown, etc... no worse for wear.



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Quote from: Xanth on May 18, 2014, 22:19:01
What exactly do you think is going to hurt you?

I've been shot, stabbed, bitten, drown, etc... no worse for wear.




Anything. It's not about what anyone thinks, it's about the things that can potentially go wrong, and about the people and/or things that can potentially hurt you. When I say you, of course I mean your body. In terms of your soul, nothing. The soul, unlike the body, IS in fact immortal.

I've been stabbed and cut. I've literally had life pulled out of me in the form of energy. I've never been shot though, lol. Must have sucked.

Xanth

Quote from: AAAAAAAA on May 18, 2014, 22:35:12
Anything. It's not about what anyone thinks, it's about the things that can potentially go wrong, and about the people and/or things that can potentially hurt you. When I say you, of course I mean your body. In terms of your soul, nothing. The soul, unlike the body, IS in fact immortal.

I've been stabbed and cut. I've literally had life pulled out of me in the form of energy. I've never been shot though, lol. Must have sucked.
But that's just it, you're thinking "physically".  Think BEYOND this physical reality and what you think you know about yourself and the very nature of reality.

For myself, I don't recognize myself as "having" or "being" a physical body.  There's no difference in this form to another form I'd take non-physically.
It's all consciousness.  Your body doesn't even objectively exist.

And even if you're just thinking about this "physical" body... you can fear about it getting hurt and dying, sure.  It's just another experience.  You might not want to leave your loved ones, but in the end, that's only a purely ego reaction.  There's a much larger story out there being told by your consciousness.  But this physical-life is only restricted to this physical rule set where you experience it in.  It doesn't extend beyond "here"... and when you leave "here" one day, it then becomes just another spiritual-growing experience (hopefully  LoL).

Stillwater

Quote from: AAAAAAAA on May 18, 2014, 20:39:06
I'll be blunt about it then. Everyone here seems to think that just because you are limitless in the astral, it means that you are invincible. I am 99.99% sure that all of that is BS.

I agree. I am not convinced that a person is immune from any sort of harm. The world is a big place, and many unexpected things and events populate it. I feel like many people obsess about defense though... it seems like these are the sorts of people that find themselves under constant attack. For this reason, I am convinced most of the negative encounters are authored by the projector. But then maybe not all.
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

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Quote from: Stillwater on May 19, 2014, 06:01:17
I agree. I am not convinced that a person is immune from any sort of harm. The world is a big place, and many unexpected things and events populate it. I feel like many people obsess about defense though... it seems like these are the sorts of people that find themselves under constant attack. For this reason, I am convinced most of the negative encounters are authored by the projector. But then maybe not all.

Exactly. It's almost ironic in a way how people talk about how they are "limitless", yet they completely discredit the possibility of getting hurt. If there are no limits, what's stopping someone from getting cut in the throat and killed whilst in the astral? My proposition probably sounds ridiculous, but this is what it means to truly be limitless. If one was limitless, this would be totally possible, no matter how ridiculous it sounds.

Xanth

Well, let's discuss what you think is going to harm you physically.
What do you think can harm you?

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Quote from: Xanth on May 19, 2014, 20:05:43
Well, let's discuss what you think is going to harm you physically.
What do you think can harm you?

Just about anything if you're unconsious.

Xanth

Quote from: AAAAAAAA on May 20, 2014, 19:52:17
Just about anything if you're unconsious.
Oh, so you're talking about someone attacking your physical body while you're "projecting"?

Well yeah, if someone comes along and stabs you while you're sleeping... it's going to end your physical experience.
I'm not talking about physical reality violence though.  I'm referring solely to the non-physical.  I thought that's what this discussion was about... being "hurt" in the non-physical.

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Quote from: Xanth on May 20, 2014, 20:38:05
Oh, so you're talking about someone attacking your physical body while you're "projecting"?

Well yeah, if someone comes along and stabs you while you're sleeping... it's going to end your physical experience.
I'm not talking about physical reality violence though.  I'm referring solely to the non-physical.  I thought that's what this discussion was about... being "hurt" in the non-physical.

The soul can be also tortured.