Why no one has ever REALLY had an 'In Body Experience'.

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Relinquish

You are aware.

You perceive 'ever-changing form'.

You seem to be (or have) a particular body/mind. However, is this body/mind that you seem to be (or have) not, after all, just another part of the 'ever-changing form' that is 'perceived' by what You are?

Because 'ever-changing form' is 'the perceived', NO part of it at all (such as ANY body/mind, or ANY subpart or 'owner' thereof) can actually BE 'the perceiver' of it, that You are.

Have you, in all honesty, ever actually had even a single experience of 'the perceived' (including the particular body/mind that You seem to be or have) having any perception of it's own, of any kind at all?

Surely, all You know is Your own perception.

You, as a 'perceiver', are always already absolutely changeless and formless.

As such, in truth, You have no location or edge, and so You do not begin or end. You are infinite and eternal, as the One unthreatenable Emptiness itself.

You are Pure Awareness.

Peace.

:)

Xanth


desert-rat

If I understand what you are saying,it goes back to the phrase , I am not a human having a spiritual experience,I am a spiritual being having a human experience.

Szaxx

What you describe relates well to an experience in the formless environments.  You simply are and a part of the whole, no beginning , no end.
Pure Conciousness.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Relinquish

Quote from: Xanth on March 28, 2016, 11:55:31
For the most part, yes.  :)

Thanks for the reply, Xanth. Which part do you disagree with?

Relinquish

Quote from: desert-rat on March 28, 2016, 13:49:10
If I understand what you are saying,it goes back to the phrase , I am not a human having a spiritual experience,I am a spiritual being having a human experience.

Pretty much, yeah. I would say, however, that a more accurate version of that phrase would be, "I am not a human being having a spiritual experience. I am THE Spiritual Being SEEMING to have a human experience."

Because ultimately, there is only ONE Spiritual Being.

:)

Xanth

Quote from: Relinquish on March 28, 2016, 21:48:50
Thanks for the reply, Xanth. Which part do you disagree with?
Oh, nothing.  Just terminology and semantics.  :)
It's all good.

Relinquish

Quote from: Xanth on March 28, 2016, 23:07:44
Oh, nothing.  Just terminology and semantics.  :)
It's all good.

Fair enough. I was hoping for a friendly disagreement that might have initiated a nice little experiential exploratory discourse. All good, though. If everyone's already on board, that's great. :)

Xanth

Quote from: Relinquish on March 29, 2016, 01:35:43
Fair enough. I was hoping for a friendly disagreement that might have initiated a nice little experiential exploratory discourse. All good, though. If everyone's already on board, that's great. :)
Ok then, you suck.  Discuss.  ;)  hehe
Kidding.  :)

catmeow

The bad news is there's no key to the Universe. The good news is it's not locked. - Swami Beyondananda