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madmagus

From personal experience, and from what I've read of other's experience, we find it easier to interact with our a.m. waking consciousness more so than our dreaming mind.  Specifically, if you tell yourself to remember your dreams so you can write them down, you begin to remember more of them.  If you tell yourself to wake up slowly and not to move when you first notice that you are doing so, you quite readily get the hang of it.

I've had the thought that if you tell yourself to catch hold of your awareness just as you are coming out of a dream and to jump right back in, that your waking mind could very well respond, and perhaps quickly, to that suggestion as well.  More often than not, I catch myself becoming lucid just as the dream shifts into hypnopompia, but I don't simply jump back into the dream.  Could we, through auto-suggestion alone, start reentering dreams automatically, lucidly, every time we woke in that state?

Anyone with such an experience here?  I've been considering giving MILD (or my personal version, Crazy MILD) a new look, which is where auto-suggestion came into my head.

Thanks for any thoughts

serge

Quote from: madmagus on July 23, 2016, 05:57:20
From personal experience, and from what I've read of other's experience, we find it easier to interact with our a.m. waking consciousness more so than our dreaming mind.  Specifically, if you tell yourself to remember your dreams so you can write them down, you begin to remember more of them.  If you tell yourself to wake up slowly and not to move when you first notice that you are doing so, you quite readily get the hang of it.


Thanks for any thoughts

To me the hypnopompic state represents the most available gate to astral consciousness.
I recall that my only  voluntary astral travel was initiated from  early morning twilight zone  a state of consciousness in which the mind splits and a bridge between physical and astral realities is available.
My first successes occured on a camping vacation, away from home, following intense readings (two weeks day and night) on the subject. I could describe myself as having achieved a state in which the existence of a parallel world (Astral) was not only possible but obvious. Leaving the physical reality in the early morning hours seemed natural and real. Adventures in the dream world to me became adventures in the astral...another life just as real and tangible as this one, yet  articulated around different rules of logic and moral compass.

Lumaza

Quote from: madmagus on July 23, 2016, 05:57:20
  Could we, through auto-suggestion alone, start reentering dreams automatically, lucidly, every time we woke in that state?

Anyone with such an experience here?  I've been considering giving MILD (or my personal version, Crazy MILD) a new look, which is where auto-suggestion came into my head.

Thanks for any thoughts
Yes you can. It starts with "Affirmations" You also need to get good at logging anything, no matter how trivial you think it may be, in a Dream Journal upon awakening. By doing this you are entraining yourself to be aware in your Dreams.

I wrote this thread under another former name here "Lionheart" on this very subject. I call it "Re-scripting", Robert Moss calls it Dream Re-entry and I use it often. It started when I started to do my "affirmations" and journal logging on a regular schedule. I saw it as a natural progression. I don't awaken first then go back in. The scenario will normally end abruptly and find myself back in it again. There is a brief pause, but at no time do I become consciously awake to the point of being back in my bed again. I am consciously aware in this new reality though.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_dreams/rescripting-t37506.0.html
You could also do a Forum search, using the search window in the upper right hand corner of the page on the word "Re scripting", to find some other posts I made here on that topic. I wrote about it often here.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/index.php?action=search2
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."  Nicolai Tesla

madmagus

Thanks Lumaza.  Appreciate the references.  I certainly check them out.

My direction in this is that I would be coming out of a dream and sitting at the edge of wakefulness, perhaps or perhaps not with hypnopompia, and then looking to re-enter the dream state.  In my scenario, I would be aware of my body in bed, just not engaged with it the way I would be if I opened my eyes. 

"at no time do I become consciously awake to the point of being back in my bed again":  To be clear, are you saying that you don't wake up at all, that you're still in a dream state and then enter another dream?  Or do you know you are in bed, but you choose not to engage in the act of waking up by opening your eyes and interacting with your physical environment?

Perhaps this is cleared up in your referenced material.  I'll give it a look shortly.

madmagus

Thanks Serge for sharing your personal experience with it.

Lumaza

Quote from: madmagus on July 25, 2016, 04:11:44
"at no time do I become consciously awake to the point of being back in my bed again":  To be clear, are you saying that you don't wake up at all, that you're still in a dream state and then enter another dream?  Or do you know you are in bed, but you choose not to engage in the act of waking up by opening your eyes and interacting with your physical environment?
It's more like clicking in and out of the 3D darkness, aka void state. It's a very brief period (short duration) between the "simulations".
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."  Nicolai Tesla