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goingslow · July 23, 2003, 12:14:10

Psi, a little introspection wouldnt hurt. You might be angry because you're looking in a mirror.

what does being liberal have to do with anything on this thread? weird

RandomName · July 23, 2003, 12:20:56

Angry? Yes. Some people have racism,sexism, anti-semitism, but I have my prejudice against people who choose to be stupid. Wrong or right? According to Sinestro there is no right or wrong, so you have no bounds to judge me on this. HONESTLY? I think I should be lighter towards the ignorant.

Mirrior image? Maybe, in a karmatic sense, but hardly.
Liberal was my choice of word for someone that screws things up worse than they already are, rather than trying to fix them, as most liberals do.

Im sorry, but coming onto a board and preaching unbased arguments against a topic that the said board is based on shows how silly his arguments are. Im here defending what I beleive in out of boredom, so this is hardly comparable to what Sinestro is doing himself.

Nay · July 23, 2003, 13:16:27

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Yes I do beleive in Life after Death. I don't understand what you mean by reincarnation? Do you mean that we come back as an animal or as something else?

I am a little surprised that you do not know what reincarnation is, but eh..who am I to say where you knowledge begins and ends.. Anyhoo..you're right when you say "come back" I myself don't know about the animal thing, cause I've yet to be privy to that info. I have had several lifes that I have recalled while OOB. I could have sworn that I posted about some of them here, somewhere..lol..but I can't find them. I will tell you about one that I had. I also spoke with my guide and asked about this one in paticular and was told "yes" it was a past-life.

I think I was Roman...I can't be sure, I was standing in front of a pretty large group of men, there was a man to my right whom I realized was MY superior.... I had on some kind of leather get-up(sorry no better term) It was strange cause I was feeling all the emotions.,
Like I knew I needed to be quiet and all, and I was excited on the inside, do to the fact we were going to get paid.
I am facing my superior but not really looking at him, I feel him put something in my left hand (once again I feel I shouldn't look at it while he is present)
He leaves.... I open my hand and look at this small pouch type thingy w/ a string. I open it and pour the contents out into my left hand, there are some weird looking coins (they weren't perfect circles like today and they were dull color)
there was also a little silver container....really hard to explain, without drawing it...it was round with a lid that unscrewed, quite small 2" I unscrewed the lid and it sounded like grit was in the grooves, but when I got it opened it was full of salt....yep salt.. I was like..."what the...??" There is more to this dream but not important in making my point.

Well, I told my husband about it, and...lol....he was really surprised cause apparently at one time or another, soldiers were paid in salt!!! Hence the saying "Worth his salt"
I did research later (not that I didn't believe my hubby..but, ya' know, had to find out for myself)
It was true, they even had some pictures of coins and I can't say for sure, but they had alot of resemblances.

I apologize to anyone who feels like I am a broken record..lol..talking about the same thing over and over..

I believe/feel that we reincarnate to recognize death not as an ending but as simply another transition in the ongoing, eternal journey of our spirits.. Making wrongs right, learning...ect..

ok..I have talked enough..[:I]

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rantboi · July 23, 2003, 14:28:47

Sinestro, you're rude. Try to express your opinions in a nicer way. Also, since you seem to be annoyed that most of us think that the Astral is real, why are you here? To pick a fight? To convert us to your beliefs? Also, I too am surprised that you have no idea what reincarnation means. It's basically being reborn into many lives (usually as a human) to learn different lessons.

Smilecollecter, I will not, when I die, or whatever, meet your God or your horrible little angels (read the bible, they're not nice at all). Why? Because I don't believe in your God and your angels. I have my own Gods and my own ideas, and they are true to me. Don't try to force your religous beliefs on me. That only shows me that you don't believe your religion is valid enough for you personally. Now, go on and pray that I go to a little place called hell. (Fact: Goddess Hel existed before Christianity. Why can't your religion be original?) Sorry about that, just had to get that out of my system! Try to accept that not everybody believes what you do, and try not to force your beliefs on others.[}:)]

Done ranting![

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-Ater

zakaroth · July 23, 2003, 15:57:00

yet again I see you have chosen to ignore me sinestro- kindly make as well informed response to mine as you have to others- I would be oh so disappointed to be denied your enviable wisdom [

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smilecollecter · July 24, 2003, 14:50:32

ranboi...I realize other people have different beliefs than I do and that is ok. My understanding and some of my beliefs have change a lot in the last 3 years because I was open to different truths. My faith is not a religion as much as it is a personal relationship with my Creator who gives me great peace and great joy and a love that is forever. It not my intent to crame religion down other people but to share a love that has changed my life for the better for the last 42 years. I never thought when I asked a simple question concerning healing information from the astral that there would be so much anger and disrespect expressed to one another. How very sad.

fredhedd · July 24, 2003, 15:21:47

ha. you guys are funny.

rantboi · July 25, 2003, 07:31:23

Smilecollecter, I'm sorry for sounding rude, but I can't control it! Anyhow, bible-thumpers think they are saving people and sharing their "wonderful" religion, but they are still annoying. I think that you should be happy with your own religion and leave other people alone to find their own way, or no way for that matter.

Again, I'm sorry for sounding rude.

-Ater

Mustardseed · July 29, 2003, 05:07:39

Wow that was a lot of reading. Sinisto I tried to read all you have written and some of it was very insight full.(some I have questions about) It is in its nature very analytical and very interesting. You do seem to think a lot for a 17year kid but hey thats fine with me and why not. I would like to ask you a few questions. As a matter of fact I also have some questions about OBE and reincarnation, and pardon me guys ....it seems that these 2 subjects are like the "holy Grail" around here. It does not seem logical to me that we reincarnate. I wrote a post about that. I do have OBEs and they are very powerful experiences as I am sure you realise. What exactly happens I am not sure but it is not anything I have experienced in this lifes "reality" as you put it.

I did a experiment with my wife the other night. She is very critical of my OBEs and I am glad. She is open but "not impressed" as she has not experienced them herself. Anyway I told her to watch out for one week . I left for europe and she was in the US on a particular day I tried to project to her and wondered if she would see anything. Suprise after we met she told me that she had seen me and gotten all wierded out. I had hovered over her bed at night as a grey misty sort of thing but recognizable. I disappeared shortly. After comparing times and dates it matched up. How does that fit in for you. ?? I was pretty flipped out myself as I never did anything like that before but dont know what to think about it. Anyway I am very exieted about your posts and that you seem to question things I believe that is healthy. By the way try to be nice people listen more to you when you are

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I look forward to your reply
Regards Mustardseed

Sinestro · July 29, 2003, 17:42:48

Mustardseed,
I did not write the article, I found it through my research. The
article was written by Jim Walker. You can visit his website at
http://www.nobeliefs.com He has some very interesting things on his site.

Mustardseed · August 05, 2003, 05:04:39

Well I guess you must be busy, its been a while since the post . It does seem your posts are a lot of unsupported claims , as well as stuf like "I have proof" . It sounds pretty silly and generally your posts are a bit immature but thats ok. Instead of all the stuf you tell us you do not believe why dont you tell us what you DO believe. That would be good reading. Some people argue by attacking others opinion instead of stating their own cases. If you have the full truth at your fingertips lets hear it. It should be able to stand on its own.

Ensoñador · August 12, 2003, 17:09:47

OBE is the ability to represent ourselfs diferently. WE actualy see our beliefs projected in front of us, not rality. Thus, Obe are as unreal as phisical experience, but at the same time very real because we experience it as real. Just imagine this:

The basic of ordinary perception is the art of projection. We percieve cause we project. We are OBEing all the time. We are the spirits traveling out of a unic universal body. I say we are all right, OBE is and ilusion and it is not at same time. Oh, and I think we shouldnt keep wondering on how this could be posibble, its surely beyond reasoning. WE are all living our process at our own rythm, everytbody is right cause thats what our experience tell to us.

We take brain as the basis to judge reality, but have we ever wonder if our hole phisical body is just a mental thought form? The beuty of creation is that while I project you, and you project me to have experiences of duality, we are in other reality the same being, just representing itself as a tree, a sun, as Jhon or Peter. WE are God playing with himself, experiencing himself in every particular location of the universe as and I, as infinit units we call life.

"We are dreaming" is something all the spiritual masters have told us, a dream that pass so fast that it would be better to live it than to ask if it is real or not. I truly dont know what is real or not, but someday experience will lead me to the truth, not philosophical discussions.
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The topic of this post was the answer about healing or medicine information for mortal and non mortal deseases in te astral. I thing we will get more reveletaions from the spirit about healing if we as humans were more conected to it. We have what we deserve, not meaning to be cruel. Why didnt Jesuscrist stayed on earth forever so we would all be happy learning and evolutiong more faster?, I simply dont know. Justice is not always what benefits us. Altouh I think we can learn to heal ourselfs sometimes, is about good energy manipulation, maybe. hi.

Ensoñador

shadowatcher · August 12, 2003, 17:42:59

My theory (fully explored in the "nature of the astral plane" forum) is that the astral plane is a simply a state of consciousness where you have instant access to your subconscious. You only remember a thousandth of what happens every day. What would it be like to remember everything at once? it would be an OBE. Of course, your subconscious also makes things up. [

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smilecollecter · July 21, 2003, 11:37:02

I thought about this yesterday and thought I would put it to this group. Why cannot those that are experienced astral travelers go to the place where records are kept and get the information on different cures for diabetes, macular degeneration, parkinsons, ms, the disease that ages children very fast, etc.? Our subconscious minds are suppose to be very powerful and full of wisdom and I would think that with enough people seeking these answers (I know there are doctors and scientist looking for cures) out of body travelers should have access to more information than the natural mind. I am not experienced in conscious oob's or I would try myself. I'm still trying to get out more than 1 or 2 times. Perhaps I'm asking a simple question for a complex answer.

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