Remote vision: trying to sort things.

[Stealth Fist]

Greetings Frere,

Seeying with you're eyes closed is what is called clairvoyance. I am not sure do if it can help archieve an OOBE I hope that someone else can answer that question.

As for you second question I think that it is indeed you're guide talking to you, but I don't know what the focus is this dreams happen on. I hope that I have at least asnwerd a part of you're questions.

Peace,
Stealth Fist

[Frère]

Not much actually, but thatnks anyway for your reply. I think I might be getting off topic, for nobody seems to have the answers I need... except maybe myself... ? or even my guide! Anyway, I'm happy when I read a reply by somebody rather neutral, who may see the situation with a little more distance than myself alone!

[WalkerInTheWoods]

I had a similar experience once with seeing my ceiling with my eyes closed. I was trying to project but apparently fell asleep briefly. I then looked up and saw my ceiling, but the lighting was different. It looked like the light was turned on, but I did not have it turned on because it was day light and the room was pretty bright. At which point it occurred to me that I had a blind fold on because it was so bright and I should not be able to see my ceiling. Then everything went black, I opened my eyes and there was the blind fold over my eyes. Umm I guess this does not help you much. I really do not know what to tell you about this, other than I have experienced it too and that it seems pretty common.

When do you see these images of the girl and family? While meditating and in trance? What leads you to believe that she is your guide? Maybe she is and maybe she is not, but do not base it solely on the fact that she was calling your name. Assume nothing. By assuming that she is you may influence the situation. Ask who she is if you can, "feel" for who she is, but I do suggest that you clean yourself of the idea that she is your guide unless you get a strong feeling that she is that is based more on just assumption. I do not mean to make this sounds less than it is, I just wish to stress how your thoughts can influence things, which is why it is best not to just assume something. I am really not the best person to answer this for you. I have had encounters very briefly with one or possibly two (not sure about the second) beings that seemed to be helpful. But it was rather brief and I did not get the chance to question them. I know that there are others that can help you much more. I hope they see this and help you.

[Frère]

Actually I knew I was not alone in the case of seeing my ceiling: I read an arcticle on internet of a girl who was telling a story about the same kind of thing. But there was no mention if it is RTZ or not.

About the girl, my shiver, which guides me already mostly since June, but actually since all my life, seemed to react when I put together the Idea of the girl, and the Idea of my guide. The shiver seemed to mean also that the family was actually me, the mother of my daughter and my daughter, living in a house... which seems impossible by now... but who knows?

But even though my shiver responded to these questions, I'm still a little unsure... and will indeed continue to investigate...

[Radha]

Frere'  Look closely at the eyes of any being you meet.  If they are filled with Light, it might be safe to ask, at least, who they are and WHY THEY ARE THERE.  In esoteric schools such activity is preceded by your learning a mantric "key" that will open the door for you at a certain place used by that school.  You will see one of the schools inner levels teachers there.  As long as you follow directions you are fairly safe on the inside.  If an initiated member of an Order you are VERY safe.  You don't want to see what happens to unsavory "things" that bother an Adept's pupils.  
Also remember the inner levels and travel there are not particularly for our entertainment.  They are for learning, and are a stepping stone toward taking you deeper inside toward the end goal.
A Bien Tot

[Frère]

Radha you are lucky you can look creatured you meet in the eyes, usually my images are not clear and long enough to be able of such thing, besides, in real life, I have tendency to evitate looking to people's eyes, I know I'm wrong, but sometimes I'll do better. Now your story about opening doors I just don't understand.

[Radha]

Like a lot of words we use to describe the inner worlds, "doors" might not be the best choice, but it is an accurate depiction.
As a crude analogy, if your goal was to re-gain conscious union with Source, and you were here in daily life on eart, it would be like you are contemplating a huge jump in consciousness if you suddenly went from here to there.  Plato, in his "Republic" describes this in the allegory of the cave.  The person is taken into the Light too soon.
So the esoteric brotherhoods have devised a series of steps that make the journey easier and safer.  No unlike taking small bites instead of the whole sandwich at once.  Each Order constructs a "place" for their members to go to at each step.  So, for example, to take you to the astral temple they might have a mantra that will, when done correctly, "tune" your inner sight so you will see the temple before you, and usually the teacher for that level.  When you have that under your belt, you are given the next mantra and so on all the way withing to Source.
As the Templars used to say, their duty was to protect the pilgims on their journey to the Holy Land.  This is true except it may also have pertained to an inner pilgrimage to an inner Holy Land they referred to.
So, you utter the correct mantra correctly and a "door" opens is just an expression.  I apologize for any confusion.  It doesn't mean, of course, a physical looking door with hinges etc.  If such a symbol were to be used, it would be shown with no door knob on the outside.  The door can only be opened from within is the message it conveys.
Cheers,
Radha

[Frère]

I have two questions related to remote viewing.

1.
I just attempted to go until the stage of vibrations, but settled my conciousness having formulated the goal being RTZ. I had no vibration, but I found myself in an interesting situation: my eyes were closed, and I could see the ceiling of my room. Except that there was center light device which is not there in physical. It was quite astoniching, but I could watch it long enough to tell myself: Why can I see the ceiling, while my eys are closed? I think it longed for something like 5 seconds. And I was fully conscious.

- Was this RTZ? (I remember reading in the OBE treatise that in the Astral, furniture can stay longer than they do in physical)

- What could I do of such a state? is it easy to get vibrations from there?

2.
I have seen a little girl that apparently is the appearance my guide chose for the moment. But That was in a certain focus, and I would like to know what it's called, alas I've got only some glimpses and I'm not sure I can describe it enough for you to respond. Anyway I'll try. The pictures seem overexposed, white, but I can perceive beings in another manner, I Feel them, and can almost tell who they are even if the picture is of no help. I see a family on the left, with a mother a father, and a child, they are in a house that looks like a scenery (it doesnt have all walls as though to show me what's inside.
On the right, a little girl is calling my name, seeming wanting to play with me, and I actually figured out she might be my guide. I can hear their voices, but very very far.

- I would like to know what focus this might have been, for I assume it was somewhere on some plane.
- What is the focus dreams happen on?

If you want me to precise some criteria to help you give me answers, just ask, you're welcome!