Finally got up and out!!..

[Fyrenze]

Nay - You said it. Something about forcing yourself into relaxation and thinking how hard you need to not think about things...It's like fighting for peace.

- Mark

[Nay]

Rooj
Awwwwww thanks, [:I] I feel the same way too, when I read about others experiences!  Gives me that extra ooph..[]
Sounds like you are going great too!!
I tried this morning and was almost out (a couple of times) when first the phone rang..then the cats started chasing each other..hehehe..oh well, this use to make me, well...MAD! but funny it doesn't anymore.[^] guess cause I know there will be another time to try.

Nay. []

[RooJ]

Yeah,
i know the feeling, distractions get annoying. i hate the random itches that come from nowhere seemingly just to annoy you. I dont know about me doing good, im kinda new to all this. I did have an interest in the past but during college i decided to focus on college work, and alot of things got left behind.
Its only reading up on lucid dreams that has got me back here, i think its a great idea to work on remembering dreams and building on having lucid dreams, i think they could be a very useful way to get an OBE.
And as i said previously i had very little training.. just thinking every now and again about the question reality technique got me 3 lucid dreams and i found i could remember dreams alot better. Imagine having complete control over all of your dreams , ud never really sleep, live life during the day and night, think of the time we waste while sleeping .

while im on i was meaning to ask, what technique do you use Nay, i mean through the day (such as meditation) and when you come to try and OBE? im imagining probebly many different ones? if you have answered the question in another post then just say and ill go look.

Anyway. must be going.

Roo

[Ametrine]

Nay,
I had almost the same experience..I was standing at the top of the stairs calling my husband, and when he didn't answer, I looked around, saw that everything was hazy and I felt WICKED heavy  and I thought, OMG I'm having an OBE! I didn't like it at all, I had thought I would feel lighter, and it basically SUCKED!  So I thought "BACK IN!" aand I immediatly went back in and opened my eyes.
I said to myself, W[xx(]ell if THAT'S an OBE, I don't wanna do it again!
So when I read your post, I was glad to hear someone else experienced the heaviness too. I am new here, and learning alot..maybe with e-1's help, I'll give it another shot. How do I make it better???

[Nay]

Hey Ametrine! Welcome to the forums!

quote:So when I read your post, I was glad to hear someone else experienced the heaviness too. I am new here, and learning alot..maybe with e-1's help, I'll give it another shot. How do I make it better???

I have been dealing with this heaviness for awhile now!..ugh. I think it just will get better with time.. Maybe we don't have enough energy at the time?  I also am dealing with some fears of flying really fast..lol.. I am making progress everytime I get out!  So, Ametrine, don't give up! We will succeed together. []

Rooj- I use to get those itches all over my face when I first started trying for a conscious projection...they were totally distracting!! [!] But I found if you just slowly bring up your hand and scratch it will be ok.  And who knows maybe next time you bring up your hand to scratch, it will be your astral arm.!(happened to me once)

Nay. []

[Tisha]

GREAT POSTS! Thanks Nay!  And congrats, woo hoo! []

[Nay]

Thanks Tisha!! []

Nay. []

[Nay]

Hey all []

Some of you may or may not know I've been having problems actually getting up and away from my physical once I split.
Well, it happened this morning..!!  Whoo hoo!  Gee I didn't even think to look at the clock..[]
I was woke up by the vibrations..which is weird cause this has never happened to me. I was laying on my left side with my back to the door I started to rock back and forth to turn over so I would be facing the door.  It worked! Now I was facing the door but my vision was still hazy and I felt that heaviness, but NOTHING as near as it usually is. I tried to sit up, but just wasn't happening so I kinda crawled to the floor...hehehehe.  Yeah, crawled..  It worked though!
so here I was was on my hands and knees and I started to crawl towards the door to get away from my physical.  Got out into the hallway at the top of the stairs and stood up..really fast!  I felt kinda floaty and my vision still sucked so I said "clarity" but it didn't seem to work.  I was almost all the way down the stairs when  bam! I was back in the physical.  
Everytime I have an experience I learn a new thing.. for instance I know I was thinking waaaaay toooo much about my physical and when I was almost at the bottom of the stairs I started thinking about hmmmmm wonder if I am going to see anything bad?...well..geez that is a no brainer right there!  I'm pretty sure that is why I went back to my physical..just the HINT of any fear screws it alllll up.
I just think too damn much!  I also was thinking about crawling across the floor and how funny it was...lol.
I really need to work on this..arrggh. it really is hard for me because my brain just doesn't stop! []
Another thing that is interesting I didn't even try to have a conscious OOBE last night before going to sleep!  So, that goes to show me that you can try TOO hard and it will cause you not to have one. I was aware of this in theory, but was shown a very good example this morning!
Well, I was glad just to have gotten away from my physical.  And this is what I have been working towards...  Not that I don't enjoy projecting from dreams...just wanted to get good at doing it this way. And in my Whoo hooo post, well...I couldn't get up from my physical then and ended up blanking out and finding myself somewhere else. I don't want any blank areas...does that make sense?..I want to be aware the WHOLE time.
I know it will happen in time..and will not give up hope!!
Thanks for listening ya'll.  If anyone has some ideas..pleaaaase tell me!

Nay. []