Strange & Painful Experience

[Links Shadow]

I am not sure exactly what it could be, but it is possible that it is kundalini.  Kundalini surges can be very painful, and it might be that when inhaling you are in some way constricting the energy pathways while kundalini is still flowing as if the pathways were at normal size. Because of this the kundalini is trying to force its way through causing the pain.

Realize this is not for certain but it is the only thing that I can think of.

Respectfully,
Links Shadow

[eeb]

It looks to me like the clearing of psychic channels. It's definately related to kundalini or prana. I would take it as a good sign of spritual progress.

[vikram88]

Thanks, Link Shadow and eeb.

I thought that the Kundalini circuit was in the spine. But as I said before the thunderous bolt was felt in the left side of my chest. Can it still be related to Kundalini?

Any other causes?

[Nayru]

Your lungs. I experience similar things as you, and I went to a doctor. It were my lungs. Go see a doctor first, and if he assures you it's nothing.. then assume it's.. kundali? Whatever you called it.

Such pains should always be looked at by a doctor before assuming it has something to do with energyworks. Just to be safe and sure.

[vikram88]

Ok, I'll get it checked by a doctor.

The reason why I assumed it with Kundalini or other spiritual development was because it happened when I fell asleep stimulating my brow chakra. So my subconsiousness might have taken the job for stimulation and might have stimulated it whole night which resulted in Kundalini upraise.

Well that was just my thought.

Assuming it might be due to Kundalini(Although I will get it checked by a doctor), why did this happen only when I woke from sleep?

Why did it happen only on an exact particular volume intake of air (Not more nor less)?

Why did it happen only three times?(Now this is a silly question)[]

Can the three signify that my Kundalini has risen to the third chakra?

[eeb]

Hi Vikram,

I don't give my answers from personal experience, but this is what I think.

That you felt it when you woke up may be due to that at that moment you are able to percieve these phenomenae, just coming back from dreamland, not focussed in the physical yet.

That you felt it with a particular amount of intake of air, you might want to check if it's something to do with your focus/awareness that travels along with your inhale.

The number three? Maybe coincidental?


These are my thoughts,


Eeb

[DOA]

what about lopsided training.  From what Robert says its dangerous to put energy into the higher storage centers before filling the lower ones.  It could be that the brow is developing faster then the lower ones so the heart center was trying to catch up in energy.  

Robert says you should develope the lower storage centers first and then they filter up to the higher ones.  its slower but safer...


DOA

[T_Kman0610]

quote:Originally posted by vikram88

On Thurday night I went to bed at about 1 am. I had read in NEW Energy Ways that sometimes if we do energy raising and fall asleep the process is taken over by the sub-concious and thus it sometimes aids in superfast healing. But instead of Energy raising(I have not reached that part in NEW) I decided to produce vibrations in my forehead. Though I have not reached the part of Energy Raising in NEW but I know it's method. Whenever I try energy raising and focus energy going to my brow chakra I feel immediate vibrations in my forehead. I think that is due to stimulation of my Brow Chakra. I only used this as a trigger for vibrations and after that I concentrated on the vibrations to make them stronger. Doing this I fell asleep.

When I woke up and my conciousness came back and when I took a breathe in at a particular volume intake I felt a thundering heavy electric bolt in the left of my chest. It was so intense and painful that I was not able to breathe in anymore and exhaled. During exhaling the effect of the electric bolt dimmed. Then again when I inhaled, at the very same volume intake I again felt that thunderous painful bolt. Again I was not able to inhale more due to the pain and exhaled. This happened the third time also, but the fourth time it did not happen no matter how much air I inhaled.

From many years about once in a month I felt small electric bolts in the counts of 4-5 at an instant, that were very weak and tolerable, in the middle of my chest. They happened any time of the day but rarely and were not controllable. But they have not happened since a year. This time it was very powerful and painful and it happened at the left side of my chest. It also only happened at an exact particular volume intake, not more nor less.

If I concentrate on the position of the chest where it happened, I can still feel it's intensity and it's trace.

Can anyone tell me what caused such a thing?

Is it related to chara or Kundalini?

Will it hinder the spiritual growth or help in it?

Please Help me...

Personally it sounds to me like a heart attack or womething, but if you said it was in your chest , than im not sure, heart attacks accur in the chest area right? maybe it was kundilini, i dont know, has the doc ever said anything, i bet u he would guess heart attack but of course docs dont study this stuff so i dont know what to tell you imm just giving you my oppinion

[vikram88]

Thx eeb.

T_Kman0610, the reason I do not believe that it was a heart attack is the it occurred on an exact particular volume intake not more nor less.

I'll check with the doctor in a few days.

DOA, you have a point. I did want to experiment what happens if I store energy in my Brow Chakra. And as I fell asleep doing this the sub-concious might have taken the job and during sleep might have stored so much energy and made it so much energised that the heart chakra had to do such a thing to cope up with it.

Futhermore, if I develop my higher centres first will the overall development be faster including such happennings.

Timeless, you also have a point. I have not grounded since many days. Ok now which method of grounding are you taking about. Somewhere I have read to draw in energy from your roots and into your tan-tien. Another place I read that the energy you take in should go out into the earth again to make your energy in equilibrium with that of earth's energy etc. Can you tell me which grounding are you talking about?

[Athios]

vikram88, I used to get pains like you described. Not anymore though. And yes, it was also when breathing to a certain depth. But that was waaay before I started doing any energy related work, so I'm assuming it's a physical problem. I think it may have to do with putting pressure on your chest? Maybe you're compressing a nerve?
Well, anyway, yeah, it's safer to check with a doctor.

Btw, if you're reading NEW, then you've certainly must have read Bruce's warning about directly stimulating higher chakras before you've got the basics well done!
Oh wait, maybe the warning was in Astral Dynamics. Oh well.  []

quote:Futhermore, if I develop my higher centres first will the overall development be faster including such happennings.

Personally, I don't think it'll work at all. You may be able to stimulate your higher centers, but you probably won't have sufficient energy in your body to sustain any proper development. So I'd recommend just sticking to energy work that right for your level...

[Guhan]

Dear Vikram88,

What you have said on the 3rd Aug, is correct (I joined yesterday), The path of Kundalini is the spinal code. But I haven't read anything about any "pain" when Kundalini travels up.

(Even masters in the field of meditation such as Swami Vivekananda and his master Sri Ramakrishna, the popular indian yogi's have not mentioned anything like that in their books).

So, check yourself well, because it is your chest.

GUHAN

[DarkQuest]

Welcome to the board Guhan,
 Anyways, ive had that sharp feelin too but it was always at random moments, yet there was this one time i woke up to it.  It's possible it could be some kind of thing with asthma, but i think its somethin physical, so i agree to see a doctor

[RoyHarper]

quote:Originally posted by Guhan
But I haven't read anything about any "pain" when Kundalini travels up.

Pain is subjective.  With most experiences with the Kundalini there is strong pressure, heat and electricity.  One could easily interperet this as pain.

[vikram88]

Athios, the warning was also given in NEW and I read it, but I just wanted to experiment.

The most surprising thing was that even when I was inhaling I could not feel anything, but like when the intake reached an exact x litre value the bolt struck. Then when I exhaled again nothing happened, I could just feel the pain dimming out then again at inhaling I could feel the pain dimming out but when the capacity reached x litre the bolt struck again.

Athios, the nerve thing looks doubtful. You see I just woke from sleep so by body was very relaxed and fresh at that time and not that I was straining any part of my body. Yet again it might be a possibility.

DarkQuest, as I said before I also had 3-4 continous pinches of electricity in the middle of my chest which were very mild and were tolerable. They were random, once a month perhaps, and happened at any part of the day and could not be controlled. But I have not had them since almost a year.

That's it RoyHarper, it was a very very strong Electric Bolt.

Well I will go and get checked from a doctor but I don't get the time.

Even after this incident I can feel something heavy right in the middle of my chest. It seems as if there is some blockage in breathing vessel, but I can breathe perfectly normal.

Can this be something related to the Kundalini or the Heart Chakra?

[RoyHarper]

quote:Can this be something related to the Kundalini or the Heart Chakra?

Could very well be, then again it could be a medical situation.

The first thing we must understand about the Kundalini and chakras is that they are not foreign objects.  They are a part of you, just as your heart, skin and lungs.  Moreover just as every organ can be affected by any other so are the chakras and Kundalini.  Physical stimulation and thoughts can change the directional rotation of the chakras, which can cause problems with an active Kundalini.

The lump sensation you now feel could be simple a digestive problem.  You're esophagus, stomach et al can do some wildly strange things.  

On the other hand it could be an energy blockage.

My best advice is get it checked out, and clear out any and all emotional junk.

[RoyHarper]

Pardon the double post

[jilola]

Always check any unusual pain. Especially if it's recurrent.
Doing so doesn't mean abandoning the spiritual methods of dealing with it but may well help you catch any serious somatic condition in time to do something about it.

2cents & L&L
jouni

[Treaty_Angel]

lol, u should be happy, u just found ur naturual kineses. elctrokineses. but of course the pain cna eb somthing else also.

[eeb]

Hi Vikramm!

Surf to this link:
http://www.rickrichards.com/chakras/Chakras1a.html#intro
(with thanks to timeless)

and have a look to figure 3.


Eeb

[vikram88]

RoyHarper I agree with you that everything in our body is interrelated. But I don't think such a thing might have been cause by a digestive problem or stomach. No, it was way way painful.

As I said I don't get time to show myself to a doctor but I will do it as soon as possible and report it over here.

Treaty angel I don't think this might be due to electrokinesis. But it just might be.

Thx eeb...

Oh, yes in FIGURE 3 does the 4th round object symbolise the Heart Chakra? I always thought that all the primary chakra's were situated in the exact middle of our body from where our spine goes. The reason I'm asking this is that the 4th round object is at the very exact position where I got the thunderous bolt pain.

It's really a matter of surprise but I can still feel a trace of that thunderous bolt. I can still feel heaviness at that spot.

What could be the reason for such a thing?

[vikram88]

On Thurday night I went to bed at about 1 am. I had read in NEW Energy Ways that sometimes if we do energy raising and fall asleep the process is taken over by the sub-concious and thus it sometimes aids in superfast healing. But instead of Energy raising(I have not reached that part in NEW) I decided to produce vibrations in my forehead. Though I have not reached the part of Energy Raising in NEW but I know it's method. Whenever I try energy raising and focus energy going to my brow chakra I feel immediate vibrations in my forehead. I think that is due to stimulation of my Brow Chakra. I only used this as a trigger for vibrations and after that I concentrated on the vibrations to make them stronger. Doing this I fell asleep.

When I woke up and my conciousness came back and when I took a breathe in at a particular volume intake I felt a thundering heavy electric bolt in the left of my chest. It was so intense and painful that I was not able to breathe in anymore and exhaled. During exhaling the effect of the electric bolt dimmed. Then again when I inhaled, at the very same volume intake I again felt that thunderous painful bolt. Again I was not able to inhale more due to the pain and exhaled. This happened the third time also, but the fourth time it did not happen no matter how much air I inhaled.

From many years about once in a month I felt small electric bolts in the counts of 4-5 at an instant, that were very weak and tolerable, in the middle of my chest. They happened any time of the day but rarely and were not controllable. But they have not happened since a year. This time it was very powerful and painful and it happened at the left side of my chest. It also only happened at an exact particular volume intake, not more nor less.

If I concentrate on the position of the chest where it happened, I can still feel it's intensity and it's trace.

Can anyone tell me what caused such a thing?

Is it related to chara or Kundalini?

Will it hinder the spiritual growth or help in it?

Please Help me...