Golden dawn technique

[Kazbadan]

I would aprecciate if you could wright the technique, step by step.

thanks

[JustLikeThePill]

if its so incredibly hard than why use it? and if you promised not to tell, why are you telling?

[veliki grizli]

Now I have not time to do that, but I will scann the pages of the book and attach them here as soon as possible.

[veliki grizli]

JustLikeThePill

You misunderstood. I said that this technique was secret in time when Golden Dawn exsited that was before 100 years or more I dont know.

At 1930 or 1940 this technique became known to public , and wasnt Golden Dawn´s secret any more.

I dont say that this technique is difficult for all people.For people that visualise things very easy it is not difficult.

[JustLikeThePill]

ohhh ok then cool. i thought it was some club or something.

[Gandalf]

Regarding Golden Dawn and AP,
I know that Golden Dawn tought a technique which is actually a form of phasing and predated Monroe by about 70 years. It involves visualising certain shapes, like a yellow circle on a blue background (not exactly that but you get the idea) and so on. If the individual visulised these for long enough he/she would find them selves able to move within it (in their mind's eye) and from there into the astral itself. There was a whole series of these shapes which opened up to various parts of the astral.

I don't think the technique you are describing is the same as this one of course. The above one is for direct access to the astral, what is now called 'phasing', whereas the technique you describe sounds like a method for OBE to the Realtime zone. I would be interested to hear more about it!

Regards,
Douglas

[jc84corvette]

Yes I like to give this a shot!

[Forgotten Flame 13]

I used something like that when I was into psionics (using things to help with psi stuff) for remote viewing. You made a thoughtform like an eyeball, tell it to relay pictures to your third eye, then move it out and to where you want it. But it was really like you were there, instead of watching it like a TV screen. And you still could feel your physical body. This technique sounds kind of like the golden dawn tech. Hmmmm....

[Lasher]

quote:Originally posted by Gandalf


Regarding Golden Dawn and AP,
I know that Golden Dawn tought a technique which is actually a form of phasing and predated Monroe by about 70 years. It involves visualising certain shapes, like a yellow circle on a blue background (not exactly that but you get the idea) and so on. If the individual visulised these for long enough he/she would find them selves able to move within it (in their mind's eye) and from there into the astral itself. There was a whole series of these shapes which opened up to various parts of the astral.

That sounds a lot like the Magical Tattwa Cards I bought recently.  Unfortunately, I've not had time to work with them yet.  But the book that comes with them is fascinating.  Here's a link to more info on the cards: http://www.llewellyn.com/trade/preview_book.php?pn=K472

Lasher

[jc84corvette]

quote:Originally posted by Lasher

That sounds a lot like the Magical Tattwa Cards I bought recently.  Unfortunately, I've not had time to work with them yet.  But the book that comes with them is fascinating.  Here's a link to more info on the cards: http://www.llewellyn.com/trade/preview_book.php?pn=K472

Lasher
[/quote]

Heh this caught my attention!

"Astral projectionEasy to use, the Magical Tattwa Cards form a complete and comprehensive system for psychic development. This book and deck of cards form the basic building blocks of mystical attainment and magical self-developmenta system that has withstood the test of time for over 2,500 years."[]

[veliki grizli]

Yes , this technigues you mentioned(Tattwa, And astral Doors) are similar.
This techniques leads you directly to astral plane, but technique I mentioned is projection to astral body but in physical world. In case this is not etheric projection or OBE , this is astral projection and very easy it is possible came from physical to astral environment.

All this techniques are described in book: J.H.Brennan--The Astral Projection Workbook (1989---You can find it in  a library)
(Body of Light ,Monroe techniques,Tattwa, I Ching ,Astral Doorways ,Lucid Dreams,Medidatinon,Trance)

[veliki grizli]

Here is the technique:
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[LA FORET MAUVE]

Waaaah thank you very much !!!!!!![|)]

[LA FORET MAUVE]

it looks difficult but worth the effort...
i promise to try !!!
Anybody ever tried this before ?

[veliki grizli]

Other pages of the book connected with this technique:

[Pandemonium]

Hej, Veliki_Grizli, je li to ona tehnika o kojoj si mi pisao?

Ups!
Is that the technique you were writing me about, how much succes did you have with it? Sounds great though, I'll give it a go.

Thanks,
Pan

[veliki grizli]

Da to je ta tehnika, imam i hrvatsku verziju ,ak neznaš Engleski.

Did anybody read this technique , what is your opinion about that technique?

[veliki grizli]

There is a variation of this technique and it involves technique called: Cuabalistic Cross(I am not sure about spelling).
This technique is a little different ,but it insres you to get to higher Astral Worlds.

[LA FORET MAUVE]

i tried it this night and, surprisingly, it gave me the trance state but it was difficult for me to visualise clearly the place where i wanted to be, instead, i had lots of differents clear visions. One vision was a place in a desert, i could focus on it with a "without thinking" state of mind...and during less than one second i WAS in this place ! Wow. But my surprise and inexperience forced me to come back...[:O][|)]
I must precise that i didn't tried to visualise my body at the begining but a geometric form because i think that it is easier to visualise and as it is written in the scans you gave us, we can choose our shape in the astral, so...

[Pandemonium]

Ma ne brini, imam engleski u malom prstu (više manje[]). Nego, kakva su tvoja iskustva s tom tehnikom, grizli?

[veliki grizli]

U zadnje vrijeme nemam vremena za vježbanje , morem se pripremat za ispite.

I managed to create Astral double but I cant see him very clearly yet.

[Havok]

First of all thanks for the scans! []
Then I would ask you a really simple question (treated 'till death on this forum! []) about the visualisation: are you capable to keep a first person perspective of your astral double, or your mind (like mine does) keep changing from a 1° point to a 3rh point of view causing loss of concentration and focusing?

Havok

[veliki grizli]

Havok I didnd undetstand what you wanted to say , but I can tell you that this technique or visualisation demands everyday practise. At first it is difficult to create in mind the whole astral double,and you can just visualise only parts of its body ,but not the whole.
When I first tried to visualise my room , I just managed to visualise some parts of room like part of the table but not the whole table ,or nor the whole part of the room.

Help for visualisation: Stand or sit in yout room and carefuly observe all the details of futniture in you room, you must be highly aware of your surrounding. People in general are very little aware of things and world around them. They just keep some problems or similar thoughts in their minds and walk in the street like not awake.
This exercise can help you to become easily aware of yourself in your dream to become lucid.
When you carefuly observe your room this starts the creation of your room in astral world , and this surrounding just pop up in your dream and you immediately become aware of yourself.

[Havok]

I wanted to ask you if, when you "imagine" your etheric-double, you see him from your point of view or if you visualise it from different angles (like a camera floating around the etheric body you're creating)...
And when you visualise your etheric body can you actually menage to SEE him like a mental-eye vision or you just keep "imagining" it?
Last question (critical one): DOES IT WORK?
I would like to hear some of your impressions about this technique.
Bye

Havok

[veliki grizli]

I am familiar wirth this technique for a long time but I never find time to start practisintg.
This technique has lots of adventages: No deem trance ,you can project when ever you want(lots of practise required) ,becomes even more real than etheric projection.


Havok ,if are you from Italy , from what part of Italy you are?.

Did you ever heard of Damanhur and time traveling