Swaying sensations!

Shadow20205 · September 23, 2003, 15:44:23

Mabey iMabey there was something in the room disrupting your aurora, and If so try to relax mabey you were to tense, next time just relax and the vibrations should come[

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Jeff_Mash · September 24, 2003, 09:28:08

Hey there,

Just remember, sometimes you can only do so much before having to let go and letting your subconscious do the rest.

You see, our ego in our everyday waking life thinks it can do everything on it's own. We think that if we follow steps one, two, and three, then the desired result should happen. This isn't always the case when we're dealing with subjective experiences.

So my suggestion would be to continue what you're doing (energy work, relaxation techniques, etc), but also realize that at some point, you need to trust the natural body's process of transistioning over to an altered state of consciousness.

As an example, get back to the stage where you feel these energy rushes going through your body. Then, just start relaxing your MIND as well as your body. Too many people relax their body and their MIND is all wound up, wondering "What happens next?" and "Why don't I feel any vibrations?"

A relaxed mind is more conducive to an OBE than a relaxed body.

TorosDead · September 24, 2003, 14:25:21

Thanks for the replies. I tried again this morning and felt the "swaying" that so many talk about, but nothing beyond that point. Next time I will try and just "let go".

T_Kman0610 · September 24, 2003, 21:43:28

yep! your very close to getting it down, wtg! just keep practicing, remember to relax at all times and be very passive about the vibrations, the more passive and relaxed the more you will get the vibes, and soon yoll be outta there in no time.[

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thanx,
T_Kman0610

weagle · September 25, 2003, 03:20:44

swaying anyone can get when they fall asleep. what you are looking for is the falling sensations followed by floating afterwards or the swaying followed by static noise or some noise that is not there, if any of these two happen then just slowly slide out turn around see yourself on the bed.

ralphm · September 25, 2003, 22:00:04

To expand on what Jeff said (is he back? where has he been? I don't have time to check every topic so i'm not sure if he was really gone) there seems to be a part of the mind that just won't let go, about the only way i can trick it is to fall asleep after getting very close to the obe state and i will be awakened by the vibrations and go obe. I'm not sure if it really is mind tension but there seems to be a need for the mind to just dissapear-body asleep mind awake needs to be modified to something like body asleep, mind dormant, awareness present or something like that.
As for the swaying technique, it seems to be somewhat like the falling technique, kind of like swinging in a swing or in a hammock.

Jeff_Mash · September 26, 2003, 10:48:19

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Originally posted by ralphm

To expand on what Jeff said (is he back? where has he been? I don't have time to check every topic so i'm not sure if he was really gone)

Hey my old friend,

Yes I am back, and yes, I've been gone. I'm afraid 'life' got the best of me, and sucked up all my time. I was mostly (and still am) busy with work and with running my website. However, I also got married a few weeks ago. Now that the marriage planning is over with, I have some free time which I am doing my best to spend here. [

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TorosDead · September 26, 2003, 14:46:51

Please use this forum to answer questions and not catch up on old times. Stick to the topic. Thank you!

Jeff_Mash · September 26, 2003, 17:29:39

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Originally posted by TorosDead

Please use this forum to answer questions and not catch up on old times. Stick to the topic. Thank you!

I shouldn't have to state the obvious, but Ralphm and myself have both replied to your question in this post. It just so happens that Ralphm, in the process of replying to you, directed something towards me. Therefore, just as I responded to YOUR post, I did the same to him. Starting a whole other thread just to answer his simple question is almost as ridiculous as what you said in your last post. [

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ralphm · September 26, 2003, 18:58:08

Glad that you are able to return to the forum, Jeff. I also have been preoccupied with other stuff for the last year. I think what we go through in life, how we deal with it, and the relaxation time we have all contribute to the extent we are able to project and discussing these things are part of this forum.

TorosDead · September 27, 2003, 03:26:48

Listen, this forum is important to me. I have reached a pivital time in my life and I seek true spirituality. I did not make this forum so that some of you could "catch up on old times", or talk about your almost "marital" status. If you want to talk about personal things, then e-mail eachother personally. I seek only help as to possible steps and/or solutions to attaining the next "stage" in an OBE. If you cannot/or do not desire to contribute, then please do not reply. I truly appreciate all the responses I have attained so far (they have honestly helped me), but if you have nothing productive to add to this particular forum, then it's simple.... please do not reply. Sorry for being such a willy, but I feel at this point that it's rather necissary. So, if you have advice I am grateful to hear it. If you want to chat with your friend about your week... please... this is not the place. Thank you!!!

Jeff_Mash · September 27, 2003, 08:44:34

quote:
Originally posted by TorosDead

Listen, this forum is important to me. I have reached a pivital time in my life and I seek true spirituality. I did not make this forum so that some of you could "catch up on old times", or talk about your almost "marital" status. If you want to talk about personal things, then e-mail eachother personally. I seek only help as to possible steps and/or solutions to attaining the next "stage" in an OBE. If you cannot/or do not desire to contribute, then please do not reply. I truly appreciate all the responses I have attained so far (they have honestly helped me), but if you have nothing productive to add to this particular forum, then it's simple.... please do not reply. Sorry for being such a willy, but I feel at this point that it's rather necissary. So, if you have advice I am grateful to hear it. If you want to chat with your friend about your week... please... this is not the place. Thank you!!!

Listen up, Toro. Can I can you Toro? Or would Mr. Dead be more appropriate?

You're acting like we purposely came into your little corner of the forum, and just started talking about life with no respect to the topic. If you were to objectively look at the way the topic has progressed, any species higher than homo-erectus would see that there was no intention of bursting your little bubble.

You want me to stay on topic? Ok....let me see. I feel a "swaying sensation" in my head when I think about how serious you're taking this. [

] I only hope that in 'real life', you don't treat people's real conversations the same way you treat online ones. It may go something like this:

You: Hey Jeff, did you watch that football game yesterday?

Jeff: Yeah, wasn't that great?

You: I agree. Hey, what did you think about that touchdown pass where the guy jumped into the crowd?

Jeff: Oh man, that was awesome. That chick that he almost knocked over was pretty hot though. Reminded me of a girl I used to date.

You: PLEASE DON'T TALK ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN FOOTBALL!!!

Hehehehe, sorry, I'm getting a kick out of this. And oh look, I did it in your forum. Just take a few deep breaths and I promise it will be ok.

TorosDead · September 27, 2003, 15:37:39

Alright, I appologize. It was late and I was a little drunk when I wrote that, and obviously unitentionally offended some people. You did help me with your response to my question, so sorry, I guess I should be more appreciative. Thanks for your responses, didn't mean to cause drama.

Jeff_Mash · September 27, 2003, 20:45:19

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Originally posted by TorosDead

Alright, I appologize. It was late and I was a little drunk when I wrote that, and obviously unitentionally offended some people. You did help me with your response to my question, so sorry, I guess I should be more appreciative. Thanks for your responses, didn't mean to cause drama.

Hey my friend.....apology accepted. It takes a real man to come back and be so humble. I too apologize if I was a little defensive. Now let's have a beer! [

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TorosDead · September 23, 2003, 15:25:35

Yesterday morning I did my usual techniques to induce relaxation. I had just woken up, went and got a drink, then went and lied down again and began my breathing awareness. My body became fully relaxed and my mind was aware, and then about an hour into it I got an enourmous surge throughout my body, beginning from the left and moving to the right. A few minutes later, I got another in the same manner. I didn't know where to go from there though. I had reached mind awake body asleep, but don't know how to induce the vibrations from this point. Today I attempted the same thing, and achieved the swaying sensation that so many talk about, which was the first time even though I have been practising for years. I found that they were stronger when I didn't concentrate on them, which of course became more difficult as they increased. However, I feel that this is an imporant step and that the swaying is close to something, but still don't quite know what to do from here. Suggestions would be appreciated!

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