what is shen energy?

shadowdancer · October 10, 2003, 11:14:46

Namaste,
shen is roughly translated from pinyin to "spirit". from what i understand it is cultivated in buddhist qi gong practice, not to increase strength of body, but strength of spirit. and i feel, in this context, spirit would be considered to be the same thing as the three more subtle koshas(bodies), after the pranamaya kosha, or the energy body. cultivating the shen is about moving more and more of one's consciousness into a real of pure spirit energy. this is one of the major differences between taoist and buddhist philosophy.

Zeke88 · October 10, 2003, 11:45:33

From sites I read this is the energy that gives you the ability to do things you normally cant do and a physical thing you could think of it as is a better version of adrenalin..

That is what I have read from sites, if its true or not I dont kno..

neo · October 10, 2003, 13:02:33

shen is an extremilly powerfull energy, it is the energy used in limit break. i highly doubt that u most of u guys have even felt it(most not all) its achevaball though so just keep training. and for u dbzers its the kind of energy they use.

Shadow20205 · October 10, 2003, 13:50:10

I thought shen could only be achieved by extreme emotional and mental distress.[|)]

neo · October 10, 2003, 14:34:43

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Originally posted by Shadow20205

I thought shen could only be achieved by extreme emotional and mental distress.[|)]

yes the limit break is extreme emotion, and i was real ticked of once and i throw a punch and nearly broke my arm (man than hurt)[B)]

Shadow20205 · October 10, 2003, 16:02:33

Thats be cuase when you punch you gotta rotate the hips, it acts as a shock absorber and don't fully extend your arm there should still be a slight bend, learn to punch and retract with out fully extending the arm and when you punch, mabey should keep your hand loose and tighten up just before inpact(Bruce Lee used this tech).[

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neo · October 11, 2003, 15:06:13

i already know that, i mean come on u think i could use shen without knowing hoe to punch[

] but brue lee was right thats the best way to punch and ot making a fist untill impact is a very usfull tech

Shadow20205 · October 11, 2003, 17:41:03

Just make sure, becuase (*Whisper*)There are alot of ignorant people int the world(*Whisper*)LOL.[

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neo · October 12, 2003, 06:26:44

lol, has any one else expereined shen??

Shadow20205 · October 12, 2003, 09:36:54

Once, but not for that long just for mabey just for 5-10 seconds.[

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Syke · October 12, 2003, 11:39:04

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Originally posted by Shadow20205
(Bruce Lee used this tech).[]

what, you mean a punch?.... it's not a special technique or even a special type of punch.... it's just a correct way to punch.

and when you punch when you're angry, it isn't extra rage power that hurts your arm, it's just because you're full of rage that you dont punch properly and over stretch it which can cause damage to your elbow. or you dont strengthen your rist and twist that which can cause a lot of damage too.

so i suggest that when you're angry and think you have this shen energy in you, you punch something soft like a pillow, that way you wont cause any damage to yourself. even a punching bag can cause injury if you dont know how to punch properly or you're just not thinking straight.

-Syke

neo · October 12, 2003, 14:53:14

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Originally posted by Syke
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what, you mean a punch?.... it's not a special technique or even a special type of punch.... it's just a correct way to punch.

and when you punch when you're angry, it isn't extra rage power that hurts your arm, it's just because you're full of rage that you dont punch properly and over stretch it which can cause damage to your elbow. or you dont strengthen your rist and twist that which can cause a lot of damage too.

so i suggest that when you're angry and think you have this shen energy in you, you punch something soft like a pillow, that way you wont cause any damage to yourself. even a punching bag can cause injury if you dont know how to punch properly or you're just not thinking straight.

-Syke

no it is impossible for me to punch incorectly, its like u spelling ur name wrong. it was th force of which my arm was prpelled that hur it, it was not the way i punched. oh and the lonest i have ever used shen was about 10 mins, it was so cool i really f**ked up my boxing bag(split it in one punch[

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Shadow20205 · October 13, 2003, 15:54:33

No I meant thats how he punched, Ijust said tech becuase he always does it that way it might as well be called a tech.[

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shenron_2012 · October 16, 2003, 08:28:57

thank you for replying to this topic guys. and for the record: shen energy is heven energy and hell energy fuzed together.
have fun.....

neo · October 16, 2003, 13:17:32

for the record its not, its anger energy

beavis · October 16, 2003, 19:15:22

"I thought shen could only be achieved by extreme emotional and mental distress"

Maybe I've been using shen energy.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8174

Nagual · October 17, 2003, 01:06:14

Watch out guys, you're going to turn green with huge pumped muscles!!! [

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shadowdancer · October 17, 2003, 06:28:00

Namaste,
its tremendously unfortunate that people could be this misled. Shen energy has NOTHING to do with ANGER PER SE!! Shen is the spirit-mind/consciousness! The ONLY example i have seen given that could POSSIBLY be interpreted as an ACTUAL manifestation of shen, would be the examples of mothers lifiting cars from children, or other such acts of extreme psycho-physiological manifestations of unexplainable strength. Please keep in mind that these manifestations DO IN FACT HAVE SCIENTIFIC BASIS and are easy to learn about. Please don't explain something away with an abstract and undefined concept you very well picked up from a website that does not have the authority to give authoritative information about such subjects. For the record, Qi Gong practicioners(especially in Buddhist or religious Qi Gong) use their yuan qi(primordial energy) from the lower tan tien, transmute that energy into zhen qi(usable, or actual qi), in addition to the cultivation of postnatal jing. They then use the build up of qi and jing to nourish the shen(spirit-mind/consciousness)so that the spirit can survive death and eventually achieve enlightenment. In Daoist schools of qi gong practice, they major difference is the focus upon the cultivation of the physical body as well, in hopes of achieving ACTUAL physical immortality. These are old school beliefs and I don't know if any taoists today still hold them. Now I AM going to be a bit patronizing here, SOOOOO, KIDS; if you don't know, ASK! Someone will probably be able to tell you, or tell you where to start looking. Also, I ENJOY BODY ARTS, the development of the physical body into an efficient vehicle for consciousness and the cultivation of energetic systems and systems theories...these ideas are dear to me. But I really, really do my best to approach the exploration of these ideas in a thoughtful and patient manner, and do my best not to speak about what I don't know. As far as I am concerned, the ignorant immature liars club is on the "ENERGY" forum. If you want to post things like "No, you are all dummies and I KNOW I AM RIGHT blah blah blah"; please do so there. I really enjoy the Astral Pulse forums and especially the Energy Body Development area, so I am going to harp on anyone who post BS. thanks

Nagual · October 17, 2003, 11:01:21

I think, most of the blame should go to the cartoons/comics/anime (hulk, dbz, akira, street fighters, etc...) where they keep hammering "anger=power" into the kids mind... Kids, the most powerful fighters don't show/use any emotions...

beavis · October 17, 2003, 14:44:47

Some emotions can increase energy, but I dont think anger is one of them.

neo · October 17, 2003, 16:53:57

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Originally posted by Nagual

I think, most of the blame should go to the cartoons/comics/anime (hulk, dbz, akira, street fighters, etc...) where they keep hammering "anger=power" into the kids mind... Kids, the most powerful fighters don't show/use any emotions...

dumb butt, u r not a fighter unless u are run by emotion. with out it wat r u fighting 4?. and btw emotion is the key to shen(anger) i know coz i hace done it.

LightLizard · October 17, 2003, 17:38:16

'shen' is one of the 'three treasures' of chinese medicine theory. in taiji and qigong, we cultivate these treasures with a combination of active/static/breath/movement/body/mind methods.
jing=physical strength/sperm
qi=breath/energy
shen=spirit

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kakkarot · October 17, 2003, 18:04:47

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Originally posted by neo
dumb butt, u r not a fighter unless u are run by emotion. with out it wat r u fighting 4?. and btw emotion is the key to shen(anger) i know coz i hace done it.

you are not a fighter if you are ruled by your emotions, you are worthless as a fighter at that point for you are only one step away from being psychotic, which a true fighter is not.

a fighter must be in control of themselves; their body, their mind, their emotions, and their spirit. using emotions such as anger will temporarily increase your strength, but in the long run you are only screwing your self over if you have to rely upon them.

"a fighter without passion is a fraud", and that is very true, for a fighter has to have a reason to fight (their passion) otherwise they will only be a second rate fighter compared to what they could be. however, passion DOES NOT equate to anger, not even close.

a good fighter will be in touch with his/her emotions/mind/spirit/body, but will not let them rule him/her.

a good warrior will *be* his/her emotions/mind/spirit/body, but will still not let them rule him/her.

~kakkarot

Aphotica · October 17, 2003, 19:43:21

Wait, wait. Can you even move ap op-can with shen energy? C'mon guys I need clarification.

Nagual · October 18, 2003, 01:22:51

Real fighters don't fight... [|)]

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