Chromokenesis

Shadow20205 · October 15, 2003, 07:42:51

Thank you Nagual, at leat someone answered my question.[

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You guys where propably just busy......[

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Foas · October 15, 2003, 09:16:39

LOL, Ya i was being a know it all i guess, Sorry for the bad typing hard to type when you smoke. Very bad habbit. Im sorry man, I need to start typing slower so poeple can actully read it LOL. Well i wanted to make an example. Thus i thought of a black hole. To me i belive in steven hawkens belive. Where a black hole is an intlink between 2 dementions of time. Then i thought of astral. When you enter the astral plain is it not like entering a diffrent Univers or being?. What i ment. When poeple Start to get into the astral you can see that they can almost do what ever they want there. Isn't The astral linked with the pyschal? I belive so as so do other poeple i know, but u may not so i wont argue LOL!. So if you where in astral wouldnt it be able to make someone like a black hole if you where skilled? To alter time in the psychal since they are inner linked?. You guys can talk excrement to me all i want hehe, Not like i care for life anymore

Logic · October 15, 2003, 10:16:22

Nagual, your right about this, gravity can easily distort and alter the space-time continuum, which is one of the main focus' of the superstring theory. Using thesde incredibly small strings of mass to distort gravity, and perhaps propel objects at such a speed, that they would either surpass C or slow down the procession of time for the experiencer.About the space thing though, that dosent have to do with gravity, it has to do with velocity.

The closer you approach the speed of light, the slower time travels for the people / objects at that specific velocity. These effects can be caused indirectly by gravity, like objects approaching a black hole, but in the end its the velocity that really determines the temporal distortion.

Nagual · October 15, 2003, 10:43:38

Talking about c, I also remember some scientists claiming they found some "particles"/things/whatever that were moving at around 1.5 times the speed of light; which was supposed to be impossible (from einstein)...

One sure thing is that we don't see the present; we only see the past. The further the object is, the further in the past we see because the photons take their time to reach us. You could visualy "travel" back in time by beating the little photons speed and catching up with the ones who reached us in the past and looking back.

Shadow20205 · October 15, 2003, 10:51:24

Ok thanks that all I needed to know.[

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shadowdancer · October 15, 2003, 11:04:37

Namaste,
i think the particles you are referring to nagual are called tachyons. they are actually supposed to be faster than light therefore they move backwards through time. sciectist have detected what they believe are radiation emissions from their existence.

Shadow20205 · October 15, 2003, 11:28:36

Well if they go backwords through time, What would happen if they should be forced foward? Would time rewind or would the universe be destroyed as we know it?[

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Foas · October 15, 2003, 12:43:20

Does anyone think it would be possible to enter light speed during AP or LD?

Shadow20205 · October 15, 2003, 13:16:39

Well there are no bounds in the astral dimension. So of course you would but, by the facts that shadowdancer If you travel faster than the speed of light you would start going backwards in time. Hey shadowdancer, If you do go faster than the speed of light and do travel backwards in time, how would you get back ?[

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Foas · October 15, 2003, 15:02:17

Hrm but what if u didnt go backwords in time, And got skilled onther to make it where the speed of light is like your normal life speed in the real world itself. I dnt belvie tiem woudl reverse itself tho. Just as if u where running u go so fast but time is still the same isnt it?

Logic · October 15, 2003, 16:54:05

Although anything is possible, that isnt foas.

Shadow20205 · October 15, 2003, 17:57:40

Well foas theres a diffrence between running fast amd runnin faster than the speed of light.[

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Foas · October 15, 2003, 20:11:32

of course im sure a body couldnt handle it hehe. If it is possible in the astral and the astral and pyschal are innerlinked but not like you run at the light of speed but to move at the speed such as teleportation. Dont know if you guys belive in teleportation tho hehe

Nagual · October 16, 2003, 02:55:12

Hum, funny, just saw this:

http://www.nature.com/nsu/031013/031013-10.html

Also, when I talked about travelling back in time, I said visualy... The photons of an image of the past are travelling somewhere in space (unless they collided with something)... So, by catching up on these photons, you could "see" this image of the past; but you are not in the past. You are still in the present.

It's the same for the galaxies we look at. We only see the past of those galaxies. If a galaxy is 1.000 lightyears away from us, we see what the galaxy looked like 1.000 years ago. If think it takes like 7 seconds for the sun's photons to reach us. So we see the sun 7s in the past...

Foas · October 16, 2003, 18:40:03

OH. i get it.Hrm but if you where even able to achive the speed of light would time really matter?*Moves light speed to look up all the pretty ladys dress's [}:)] *

Foas · October 16, 2003, 18:43:36

OH and as a programmer i am in cisco right now and i love to work on computers and i dont agree with teh test they did. Mybe for a lan t1 and anything else below. But what about fiber optic? Witch yous light itself to transfer information. Like no light would = 0 and light would = 1. This information would travel at the speed of light.

shadowdancer · October 16, 2003, 19:29:02

Namaste,

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Hey shadowdancer, If you do go faster than the speed of light and do travel backwards in time, how would you get back ?

hmmm.....very hypothetical questions.....well, just for fun...i think that based on the tachyon theory, yes, if you did in fact increase the vibratory frequency of your body beyond that of the frequency of light, you could very possibly, hypothetically, move "backwards" within the time space continuum....how you would get back....you might never, because you would be trying to re-enter a linear time-space consciousness perspective, and because of the very nature of the flow of time itself, you are never able to be in the exact same place twice. in addition, give the grounds within this hypothetical jaunt back in time, that your conscousness was able to retain cognitive coherency, that would futher complicate the idea of "getting back", because your consciousness would have to expand to be able to function in a mode of relating to things and other consciousnesses in a non-linear causality based framework. hypothetically, you would not think of things as "past" or "future" and would not relate to the world around you in a temporal way, but in a purely spacial way. "Tomorrow" would become "over there", in a sense. hmmmm.......

Nagual · October 17, 2003, 00:37:06

What I find particularly interresting is "Quantum Entanglement" (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qt-entangle/).

http://fergusmurray.members.beeb.net/Causality.html

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The phenomenon in question is known as quantum entanglement. Briefly stated, what is happening is this: Particles which are arbitrarily far apart seem to be influencing each other, even though according to relativity this means that what seems to be causing an event from one point of view, from another point of view doesn't happen until after the effect being caused.

shadowdancer · October 17, 2003, 05:48:24

Namaste,
Nagual, from what i understand this is also known as non-local connectedness. i think i have also read about experiments dealing with particle spin, and how, once two particles came into contact, if they were separated again, if one particle altered its spin, the other did so, mimicing its counterpart as if it was still in spacial contact with it. its been a while, so i think that is right.

Shadow20205 · October 10, 2003, 17:52:10

Does anyone know if chromokenesis is possible and are there any legidement tech. to succefuly achieve this skill.[

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