Is 2012 Coming Early?

Logic · October 21, 2003, 17:56:37

Clow, there is no proof what so ever towards demons attacking in 2012, so you cant say people "know" because obviously if you knew anything, all there is to know is that you will never know anything. Many people believe that the end of the world will come with the ending of 2012 december 21st, the final date in the mayan calendar. But, what the mayans calculated was that the earth would return to a point in space where it started off about 5000+ years ago, the beggining of a new cycle. The alignment of the earth at that point is supposed to enhance its magnetic (and vibrational?) frequencies due to celestial objects in relation to earth (celestial bodies, stars, planets, galaxies, etc..)to a point which it has not seen for 5 millenia. I'm pretty sure the demon attack is a rumor..

rodentmouse · October 21, 2003, 18:23:40

i read that it was a time for spiritual ascension and descension, something like those who have abandoned there egos by 50% percent ascend, those who havent are sent to the low astral hellish type regions.

i like what you say Logic, out of all the rumours about this 2012 thing that one seems the most scientific and well.... logical.

Maybe Clow, its because earth is heading for this region in space and the magnetic waves are getting closer that your friend is sensing these things.

All speculation though, i must admit i am looking forward to what will actually happen in 2012.

Van-Stolin · October 21, 2003, 18:58:58

Clow, you can never really know unless you were told that it was going to happen by something in the astral.

Demons or not we are in for a treat and the weird things that are happening are only the icing on the cake and will soon be increasing. I have also sensed some things. A change in the weather and lots of other things like a behavior change in animals and people acting differently. The last few nights my dogs have been barking out the window at nothing. I would go out to check and there would be nothing there, but I could sense something almost like it was mocking me.

Nagual · October 22, 2003, 03:35:22

No offense but, what if nothing happens...?
It's not the first time the "end of the world" was forecasted...

xardas · October 22, 2003, 04:33:52

I belief the war against demons has already started, but only the people connected to a higher astral (i belief them) noticed it. The war started this year and is going to end at 2019 I think. Their predictions are:
2004, 2011, 2019: terrible things are going to happen.

xardas · October 22, 2003, 04:53:01

Legions of demons will come from the beneath...
Rains of fire will fall from the sky...
Hordes of undead will come from the graves...
A vast demonic army will come and get you all...

Men i like this song [

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T_Kman0610 · October 22, 2003, 05:19:12

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Originally posted by xardas

Legions of demons will come from the beneath...
Rains of fire will fall from the sky...
Hordes of undead will come from the graves...
A vast demonic army will come and get you all...

Men i like this song []

i've always dreamed about zombies attacking, i think zombies are cool lol its gonna be a real night of the living dead lol

clandestino · October 22, 2003, 05:21:43

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Clow, you can never really know unless you were told that it was going to happen by something in the astral.

Even then, you cannot know for sure. Its just as easy to get false info in the astral, as it is in our physical realm.

I think people are mistaken when they think of the astral as being a realm where we suddenly have all knowledge at our finger-tips. When I think about the astral planes, I consider them as other realities within our existence.

Van-Stolin · October 22, 2003, 13:04:21

There is a library there, it lets you access information on the past and future, but some of it is in symbols so you would have to be good at interpreting it.

Clow · October 22, 2003, 15:00:30

Once again I say that I only want experiences and info on 2012 coming early. A long time ago I made a post on weather 2012 was real or not this is not it. I am trying to compile info on if it is coming early or not therefore I could careless if you don't believe or not I just want the people who do to post. Thank you for those who did post stuff that actually had to do with 2012 coming early.

Jenadots · October 22, 2003, 15:25:14

Clow, depends on what you mean by "early". These things usually go in phases and it is likely that we would begin to see signs of whatever shifts are going to take place long before it happens. A transition is likely to occur before and after that date rather than one "big bang" of an event.

It seems to me that the planet and all living things on it are becoming more astral -- the space between the two realms is lessening so that we might see more crossover types of beings, colors, and sounds along with sudden bursts of various energies.

In other words, the transition has already begun. I believe those who expect to meet demons as a result, will. Those who expect something else will experience it as something else. It may be a time of great turmoil out of which will come great growth for our species.

Or it could be something beyond the imagining of any one of us.

The end of the world? Not likely, planet earth has been here a few billion years. Demons? There are already demons among us, and they are quite human. The end of life as we know it? Might not be a bad thing given the circumstances that 3 or 4 billion people live in. I would hope life for us changes and improves for mankind, for the animals, and for the planet.

In any case, whatever is going to happen has already begun and is beyond our control. All we can do is react to it and, hopefully, grow from it.

beavis · October 22, 2003, 19:43:47

I've been seeing some weird things lately. Sometimes I feel like people are reading my thoughts. A day or 2 ago I saw multiple timelines at the same time (again) in a multidimensional format. I've been seeing things that make a year seem so short its almost instantaneous. I've had dreams of wars fought using only psychic abilities and was told (in the dream) in a very direct way that they will be over soon.

Clow · October 23, 2003, 19:19:23

Something really freaky has been happening. Every morning when I go out for my bus. I feel a presence Almost like I'm being whatched... I never ever get that feeling. Most of all I can't sense any life energy coming of anything.

I've heard of how the demensions are "Colliding". It's supposed to have all kinds of side affects.

wantsumrice · October 24, 2003, 08:01:44

all this is pretty cool huh?

shenron_2012 · October 24, 2003, 08:49:47

hey clow ... all i can say on this is that when i talkied about alien ancestors noone believed me and that demons are real and not from hell...they didnt believe me then either.. and i am a demon and from what i can see nothing is coming at all only that this world is going to grow stronger and have stronger gravity pulling you down...which might have something to do with our abilitys and 'sencing ' someone is watching you but there isnt.. so i say if you believe this 'demon war' is coming on dec 21st or dec 25th 2012 then fine check out my link on my singature if not then live life as you did already...

Van-Stolin · October 24, 2003, 10:22:02

I saw those pics of 'you' Shenron. They don't look very real and I doubt that you really even remotely look anything like that, even if you were a demon. They would look more convincing in a better light source and if you had something in the backround that didn't look like a movie set out of a bad horror film.

Anyway, I have been getting weird vibes more and more. My stomach is feeling quesy even right now as I type this up. A few nights ago I was attacked by a shadow and my dogs are still barking at nothing. Also things have been moving in my house without notice. These strange things seem to follow me too, as at work I set something down and when I turned back around it was gone. I asked around and everyone said that they hadn't picked anything up at all and there was nothing there.

shenron_2012 · October 24, 2003, 11:21:43

i really appreciate your criticism and those pics are real. second if you do feel those strange 'vibes' then i dont no what is causing this. third the 'shadow' who attacked you might have been a demon might have been something else i dont no u do but if it was a demon then there almost ready to enter our world{earth} and it might have been a lower class demon. so im sorry if it was. but if it wasn't then take my advice it ant over then.

MJ-12 · October 24, 2003, 11:58:31

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shenron_2012 · October 24, 2003, 12:12:49

shen energy is heven energy and hell energy mixed to togerther.
and 1 million and 1 years ago my father was the most powerfullest{pls forgive spelling} and before him i have no clue.

Van-Stolin · October 24, 2003, 17:10:41

I don't think that Shadow was a demon. I was scared, but only because I couldn't move. It gave off no signs of threat and seemed very scared itself when I moved, I guess it didn't expect that. In all reason it was probably just an astral entity, but you could call it a demon if you like. 5 years with Shen energy, cool. Oh one thing I wanted to ask. You say you have friends, do they know about you? Also maybe you could find some better lighted pics and have one of your freinds in the picture with you, it would be cool to have real proof.

chupacabra · October 24, 2003, 20:36:56

Shenron, you aint gots no d*mn powuh!!!

Everybody up off in here be knowin' I am the mos' powerfullest!!!!

MJ-12 · October 24, 2003, 21:04:55

w00t!

chupacabra · October 25, 2003, 09:09:59

I'm callin' you out MJ-12

I challenge you to a demon fight right now.

Gandalf · October 25, 2003, 11:34:49

Guys..........what a load of old horseshit! (IMO)

If I had a Euro for everytime it 'the end of the world' i would be a billionaire by now...
You can believe what you like, but i have lived through so many 'end times' that it really is getting tedious now.. The worst ones so far have been the 'millenium' nutters, around the same time we had the nostradamus 1999 retards... What you always find is that as soon as the latest one *doesnt* come true then excuses are found and the attention is forced onto the *next* end time story..

I've acutally noticed a cultural difference here. It seems that the obsession with 'end time scenarios' is a purely American thing. It isnt a fixation in Europe as such. I think it is because christian apolcalyptic mythology is so ingrained into your culture. Is it not the fact that the majority of the population think that the biblical revelations are 'fact' that they 'will happen'?
btw this is purly an observation Im not trying to be anti-american at all, Im just noting a cultural difference thats all!

The result of this is that you start looking at other cultural myths with 'christian apocalypse glasses', eg the Mayan prophesies.
If you actually study the Mayan prophsies the 'end time' is nothing like the crap in revelations, it is in fact more subtle, a raising of universal consciousness.

The idea I heard earlier perfectly describes this mixup of christian notions with mayan philosophy, so that in the event, those who are more spiritually enlightnened go to a higher level while those who are of low vibration go to a some kind of hellish region... bollocks!

btw you guys might also want to check out the whole origin of the 2012 thing as there is a considerable amount of controvesy going on about whether the whole 2012 thing is complete crap and a result of complete mis-translation of mayan text..
I'm not stating it is, I'm just saying that it IS controversial and those who just accept the mayan thing about 2012 as fact might want to check out the evidence rather than saying 'we're all going to die', which to be honest is wearing a bit thin now...
Perhaps its time to get some new material sherrif...

Douglas
(someone who's bored having lived through more 'end of the worlds' than Einstein has braincells)

Aphotica · October 25, 2003, 14:08:15

Demons. Ther'ye coming. I don't know when or how but they are, garunteed. As for the ghost problems, I have an actual club in my area dedicated to that [^]. It's like these demons, creature of hell, know what we know. We know something they don't like. Maybe its a false gut feeling, but hey, you never know. Get ready, be prepared. I am not saying that the end is 2012 but it will be coming. Get prepared. Its closer that you think.

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