If magic is so powerful, where is my love!?

[The AlphaOmega]

Maybe your magic can help you go up to a girl in a bar, or say hi to someone hot walking down the street.  That's a good start.  Don't think a spell will help you in that arena.  Personally I don't think it holds any real power at all... and I would certainly like to watch you try to get the world to spin the other way.

[TheSeeker]

A woman is not going to fall into your lap, something you have to work for.

[eeb]

I think you have to put some trust in the forces that work around you and which you´re not conscious of.

Maybe you now consciously want to find your love, but the part of you that´s unconscious intends different. The conscious part of you is like the tip of an iceberg compared to the unconcious part of you.

By the time that you really want to and are really ready for it you will find your love for sure.

But I think love you do not make or create consciously; love has to arise spontaneous!

Eeb

[Tisha]

A classic problem.  In general, serious magic-types tend to be solitary, studious, and introverted.  We don't get out much.  Bars and nightclubs hold no appeal for people like us.  Also, it is hard to find other magic-people . . . ordinary people (muggles) hold no appeal!  And then, when we're in a relationship it's hard to maintain, due to the emphasis upon transformation . . . which means we tend to transform ourselves out of relationships faster than your typical muggle.  Such a dilemma!

But, to me, it is worth it, to take the EFFORT to find a partner (it IS work!).  I crave solitude for my studies, but would rather be in a partnership than not (resulting in my former situation - a long distance relationship).

This is how I found him:  I put out my magic antennae.  If it were not for my antennae I would never have found him . . . a manager in my company, 13 years my senior, on the other side of the country and married for god's sake!  How inappropriate is that?  A MARRIED MUGGLE? If I did not have my antennae up, I would have passed him right over; in fact he wasn't even my "type!"    But the antennae said "BOINGGGGG!!!!!!!!!" and for months I was really, really, confused. And then voila, he was divorced, and for some mysterious reason, he came to town and we found we just couldn't keep our hands off each other, despite the fact that we weren't each other's "type!"  And it turns out he is descended from an occult family (Italian strega). It blew my mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was almost 5 years ago.  I said "former" relationship, but events are twisting and turning in magical ways and there is no saying how things will turn out in the end.  My dreams tend to be prophetic, but the jury is still "out!"  In the mean time, I still have my antennae on.

My point here:  Do not look with your eyes.  Put out the magical antennae.  Its criteria are magical. You will be surprised at what makes them go "boinggggggggg!"

[skymageinfinity]

I wasnt expecting such quick replies so soon. Thanks guys.

I do go up to a girl in the bar. (I did that today) Nothing happens!

Girls have fallen into my lap. (it happened today) Nothing happens!

I do trust in the forces. (like I did today) Nothing happens!

My antena is always out. (like it was today) Nothing happens!

Why do you think I sent this post? I need help beyond the 'you are just not trying hard enough' or 'you need to be patient' or 'your time will come' senarios.

nothing works... I try so hard... and at times I dont try so hard... but still... there has to be something wrong with me... Maybe I was never meant to be with anyone? Maybe im just not designed for that... but please.... why torture me about it?!

I dunno... just, nothing or no one works. and im not just talking about a gf either.... im talking about a true friend...

Why is it so hard for me?!

[skymageinfinity]

Sometimes I feel that my life would be better off without this magical path. Sometimes I feel I wish I never understood the things I do now. Sometimes I feel that I wish just a normal bob or joe so that I can just live a 'normal' life like everyone else.

If magic is so powerful then why cant it even at least bring two people together in the same place? Even if they dont talk or meet. At least if it was real they would be in the same place. If magic was so real, then you could just feel happy by looking at someone and know they are in the same situation as you. But where is that even?

I mean, even nature brings insects together to mate... but not all of them do mate and some end up dying. I sat next to a lake once by myself and watched thousands of dragonflies doing their thing for hours. Where is the person I could do that with?? Where is my friend that I can simply just walk through a forest with??? Where is my life gone?! Am I meant to just be with myself? I just dont.... see why it is this way...

Am I just oblivious to the fact that I am alive and this is the way life is? Even if the magical path I follow isnt the truth I think it is, wouldnt that mean that somehow somewhere along the line a 'normal life' option will present itself? If there is more than one path in life for me to walk down, then how come there is only just one path in front of me? Even if I chose to follow the path around the corner...

All magic has done is create the same 'story' over and over again. It dosent change! It wont change! Im stuck... everytime I think I have acheived something somewhere, I get shoved back to square one as if I was not meant to advance. As if "for being the person you are, you will suffer" is the only rule. Sure life is great and all... but magic?

Why wont the spirits listen? Why dont they help? Why do they just sit there and watch me? Why do they let things repeat themselves... not just with events but with things like identical birth dates and names and even....... death.

Does anyone share my feelings or am I to continue believing im the only person in the world where the rules just dont agree and no matter how much magic one might think they have... nothing seems to work. Nothing except everything that you dont ask for...

It is just mathematically impossible for all of this to be true! SO why then is it true?

[eeb]

quote:there has to be something wrong with me... Maybe I was never meant to be with anyone? Maybe im just not designed for that

wwoo wwoo. That you didn´t encounter (still) your best friend doesn´t mean ofcourse that there is something wrong with you. Ofcourse there´s nothing wrong with you.

quote:Why wont the spirits listen? Why dont they help? Why do they just sit there and watch me? Why do they let things repeat themselves... not just with events but with things like identical birth dates and names and even....... death.

YOU are in control of everything, only you don´t realize (still).

quote:I mean, even nature brings insects together to mate

So what do you understand with nature? Why would insects be puppets without willing? On a technical level, insects produce a substance called pheromones that enables opposite sexes to find eachother. You can say that between 2 people attracted to eachother also exists such a kind of chemistry...

Just don´t worry and let things come along. If you think or experience the magical path (whatever that may be) standing in your way; then you have to reevaluate wether you want to continue with it or change your direction.

[Tisha]

Skymageinfinity,

It might seem unfair, but capable women run screaming from men who put out the kind of vibe that you are putting out.  It is no wonder you are coming up empty-handed.

Do you think that by simply believing in magic, that things will fall into place for you?  If this is the case, you don't know anything about magic!

Here is where to start:  Yourself!  Keep your magic antennae out, but STOP LOOKING! YOU'RE TRANSMITTING ANXIETY AND DESPERATION!  Even if you do not think of yourself as anxious and desperate, it is the vibe you are putting out.  

You need to become the kind of man who actually has something to offer to the world.  Build your power-base!  Prove yourself to be a man who will take the initiative and effect change.  Women can't resist THAT vibe.

Life is not fair. Being nice is not enough; it's a jungle out there.

[The AlphaOmega]

Alright, I normally keep this a secret, but you seem quite distressed aobut women, so here's the secret to finding love.  First you need to find eye of newt (pick it up at your local grocery store).  Next you need to catch a male bat and cut off his testicles.  If it only has one, that should suffice.  The last two ingredients are 5 hairs from a 5 legged goat, and a toe nail clipping from your left big toe!  Mix them all together in a blender with some ice cream and chant "oh powers of love, my antennae is up and I am ready to recieve you" over and over again while drinking the concoction upside down.  If done properly a dimensional gateway will open up and your soul mate will fall right into your lap.  Hope that helps!!!

[PyroPsion69]

I am stuck in pretty much the same perdigament as you. Cept I'm in a school where there are so many tempting girls, yet I hardly even know any of them, most of them aren't in the same grade as me (the school did this retarded thing where half the 10th grade goes to one school, half to the other, so of course most of my friends end up in the OTHER school). Needless to say I haven't gone out with anyone in a while, but the last time I did I noticed something perculiar. Before I started talking to my (now ex) to be girlfriend, we never even noticed each other in the hall. Then one day we just struck up a conversation (we used to be friends a long time ago) and then from then on we kept running into each other all the time! Nothing changed, except my outlook on things. It has to do with how minds react on the subconcious level. When you are lonely and depressed, unfortunately for us spiritual types, this is magnified and projected. But when you are in an uplifted and confident mood, its a whole nother world. People you would have never thought they would have talked to you start talking to you, people that normally treat you like crap start acting a little less like a jerk toward you.

It all has to do with confidence. If you get all high strung about it, always asking when you're going to find love, it will never happen. Relax, have a little hope, and don't think about it too much. It works.

[beavis]

Telepathy can be used to find somebody you will probably like before you talk to them. That is how magic can help.

[skymageinfinity]

Just from your replies I have an idea of what kinda people you are.

I can tell The AlphaOmega is a CLOWN!!! No respect for the seriousness of the matter.

The Seeker, eeb, beavis and PyroPsion69 although obvious, are likely to become my good friends in real life... simply because they are kind and have a genuine heart to help me (at least in this post).

And TISHA would be one of those women that would try their witchcraft to get me, but wouldnt have a chance because Id smell their magic a mile away. Havent you ever heard of filtration? Obviously if women like you run from my 'negative' vibes (without even knowing if that was the real me or not) you will most likely not even notice the other positive extremes of me, and you would just be wasting my time. *HSSSSS*



My point is, that I dont believe magic is as strong as people think it is. No one has presented to me a real solution for LOVE using magic. LOVE is the only thing that has been proven to me to be more powerful than magic. That really is what I was trying to get at (if you havent already noticed). Also, Im not necessarily talking about the physical human side of LOVE either!

I trust in the spirits and my magic is constant. Howwever, I find it hard to speak the same language of the spirits. I have changed to them, because ive gone through some kind of spiritual metamorphisis process that I can not understand. And because of that, I am unable to speak to them as much as I used to (when I had more power for love) and was wondering if there was a way of somehow finding that power again and restoring it.

As for the Chemistry... Im not a dragon fly- they are too common. Id be the lone scorpion out in the hot desert. I only come out once in a yellow moon to play with all my friends. Im only out to get stung or to sting! Either way, I just want that exchange in power- that which I call love.

[WalkerInTheWoods]

Gee wiz, sky. Everyone has given you good advice, some bluntly and some not so obvious. Don't be so quick to judge. Look beyond the surface of the words for the meaning.

The world is not fair, atleast on an individual level. No one is guaranteed to find some soul mate and be happy the rest of their life. The only one torturing you is yourself. Learn to be happy where you are right now with yourself. Stop looking outward for your happiness and love because ultimately it starts and ends within you. Change your perspective. Don't be down just because it is raining. Go outside and play in the puddles. You might always be alone, but atleast you will have fun dancing in the rain.

[Nagual]

You don't find love; love finds you! []

[n/a]

in other words, you are maybe One boring Gay!
looking for his similarity: "is this..-like me?"
looking to find the same male mind, on his own likeness.
stop searching! in mirror is your love! you have found him!

[TheSeeker]

Tisha is right about the vibe thing.  Everytime I've found love it's been when I wasn't looking.  If you're confident, and you get involved in things that you are genuinely interested in, you will find like-minded people.

If for instance.. you like yoga, so you join a yoga class.  You will meet like-minded people (not everyone there, but some).  But, if you join a yoga class for the sake of meeting people, you will come across as needy and push people away.

You do not need 'magic' to make friends, so don't rely on it.  Hope I was of some help.  Good luck.

[skymageinfinity]

*ignores Azaithoth999 the red*

quote:Originally posted by Nagual

You don't find love; love finds you! []

Assuming love does find you, how do two people find each other if neither of them are looking to find love?

I dont understand how this can happen unless two people bump into each other at the exact same second of time at exactly the right place in exactly the right way. For this to happen it would require Divine Fate or one hell of an 'impossible' coincidence.

From my experience if this crossing of paths between two people occurs, it usually is perfect for a few minutes or hours... and then its all over.

If coincidence (instead of magic say) is so mighty, why then will it take forever to bring two people together just to take them apart again? This is what I meant before when I said,

quote:Originally posted by skymageinfinity

It is just mathematically impossible for all of this to be true! SO why then is it true? []

All I am trying to do, is try and understand the dynamics of this 'match making' system so that I can maybe find a way to 'crack' it. This is the reason why I must sit and ponder the most 'negative' 'vibes'. If I keep with the same mind set, I will not learn anything new! And when I change it as a tool to help me, people instantly assume that I am that kind of person. This really diarrhea me since most of the times people think of me for something I am not. And once their mind is set, I can not change it.

I am sure understanding how the universe 'matches being' will be much easier than understanding the stupidity of human nature into not seeing what really is there in front of them and then not knowing what it means [once(if) they do indeed see it].

Also, why is it so much easier for us humans to destroy love than it is for us to make it?

[Tisha]

Perhaps a translation is in order.

You stated, basically, that you are looking for a match, the one who is just like you - - another "Scorpion."

Your match is in the mirror.  Your match is another man.  This is why Azaithoth teases you so mercilessly.

If you are looking for your match in a woman, therefore, you will always come up emptyhanded!  If you wish to succeed, start looking for your polar opposite!

Also, if you REALLY yearn for companionship, kill the scorpion.  They are solitary, cranky creatures unfit for human companionship.  My bobcat-teacher tells me they are crunchy and good with ketchup anyway.

[skymageinfinity]

Just because my match is in the mirror, it does not mean it is another man. And dont think I havent thought about it.

I get along better with females but my magic works better sometimes with some males. I never asked for someone to be my sexual partner. You and your chump Azaithoth are just as bad as each other.

Also, if you REALLY yearn for companionship, kill the scorpion. They are solitary, cranky creatures unfit for human companionship

You really make me laugh you know. Really shows what kind of twat you are being. You either have no idea or are just playing stupid! *shakes head*

And btw, how do you know Im not setting you and your bumchum up for bait? There is much more info about you two than there is about me. Do not overstimate yourselves! You really think I didnt know you were a moderator? HAHAHAHAAHA

And you see that thing infront of you called a monitor! No flaming sword can fly through there. That is if your precious Azaithoth even knows what a sWord is.

But dont worry, I know your 'monitor' tricks... Im sure everyone has dealt with the "I rule the forums" syndrome...

*sigh*

[Cruel Tendencies]

It's been said that relationships are about chemistry, but really, relationships are about an exchange of energy.  When you meet someone, there's a pairing of the chakras (which I've talked about briefly before).  If there's a sexual attraction, for instance, tentacles reach out and pair you off at the root chakra, and an exchange of energy takes place.  Normally women are more receptive, and men are projective.  That means that men (theoretically) give off sexual energy, and women receive it, and it makes them feel good (usually semi-subconsciously).  This is the basis of a woman's sexual attraction to a man.

The type of relationship you develop with people depends on the type of energy you give off most prominently.  For instance, a "soulmate" or *true love* relationship would be paired off primarily at the heart chakras (and actually, all of the chakras), and exchange a higher vibration of energy.  

I associate a "buddy" or "pal" type relationship with the navel chakra, though I haven't really seen anyone else who does this.
A relationship where one person is under the "dominion" of the other, or is subservient, would be the solar plexus, which has to do with Will.  But I digress.

The point is that you attract women based on what kind of energy, and how much of that energy, you're transmitting subconsciously (usually) to people.  Sexual energy is basically a necessity if you want a romantic relationship, or even if you only need it for an initial attraction.  Sometimes we have inhibitions ingrained into our subconscious about sex, that we don't even know about.  They feed off your sexual energy and basically drain it before you can send it out to attract someone.  Introspection is necessary to determine if you've got anything like that going on.

Tisha gave some great advice, and it's especially helpful since she's a woman.  When you're told that women are attracted to confidence, it's for the reason that I stated above.  Being confident and self-assured lets you project your energy outward, rather than being self-critical and focused inward.  When you're too critical of yourself, and worry about a woman's reaction to you, you're being too receptive and basically reversing the gender roles.  Since attraction is mostly subconscious, this is a real problem.

Also, it's possible that you're trying to get something out of a situation that wasn't intended for that result.  What I mean is, do you think God (or the Universe, or whatever) is going to set you up with your soulmate while you've still got insecurities and inner conflicts that would screw up the relationship?  If you don't have trouble meeting girls, but just can't get the relationship you want out of them, try changing your attitude and expectations.  Don't envision everyone you meet as the person you want to spend the rest of your life with.  Treat them as opportunities to work out your insecurities and demons that will threaten your *real* relationship later on in life.  

A good rule of thumb to remember is that God isn't going to put you into anything that you're not ready for.  If the thought of being alone completely freaks you out, then you're probably not ready for a real, healthy, blessed relationship.  That fear of being alone will mess things up for you later on if you don't work it out beforehand.

Aside from this, if you don't want to wait for God (or yourself) to work out the problems you have, and want a relationship RIGHT NOW, then yes, magick can be used to manipulate other people.  With direct energy work, with some proficiency (maybe a year of working with energy *well*), you can consciously increase or decrease the flow of energy between yourself and another person, effectively altering their mood and subsconsious thought patterns regarding you.  In my opinion this is pretty shady business, and you shouldn't expect to get any deep meaningful relationship out of it - well, no more than if you were to make it a habit of lying to women to get them into bed with you.  Manipulation of people tends to be out of selfish desire, and isn't really helpful for spiritual, magickal, or any kind of personal development.  But I'll leave the ethics to your conscience.


Paul

[lullabi]

"I do go up to a girl in the bar. (I did that today) Nothing happens!

Girls have fallen into my lap. (it happened today) Nothing happens!

I do trust in the forces. (like I did today) Nothing happens!

My antena is always out. (like it was today) Nothing happens!"

Maybe it's you that's not happening.
When you go up to a girl in the bar or whatever,
what do you do/say?

You can't make someone love you, I believe.
You can make them -think- they love you. But that's all.

But I'll marry you, if you're that desperate =)

[skymageinfinity]

Woah! Thanks for your thoughtful reply Cruel Tendencies. I have to admit you are the only person that has really gotten to the point unlike other people (not to mention any names- you know who you ARE!)

lullabi: 95% of the time, I am purely honest, straight to the point, and am not afraid to get where I want to get. In otherwords, I do a good job at expressing my true self. I go with the flow, and if I am not interested, then I stop there. I do put up alot of barriers, but that is my way of making sure not just anyone talks to me. I am patient and I am willing to sacrifice a few people along the way in order to reach my objective.

Cruel Tendencies, I can usually see the tentacle attraction between other people... Just not myself for some reason. I guess that is what I am trying to figure out how to do. How to see MY energy flow with others is my concern.

As for sexual attraction, being a scorpio my body part is my genitals. That is probably the problem. I tend to hold it back because I am cautious about transmitting the wrong signal, and on the other hand I am cautious that if I just let it go, Ill attract the wrong person or worse... cause trouble! I figure I just get cant get the balance right.

A 'stranger magical' person once told me that I had a blockage, and he was probably talking about the chakras without even knowing it. People can sense things in other people without knowing about magic. He was one of those people. He sensed something, but I doubt he knew where or what. Until now, I dont really get the truth behind what he said.

My true problem is my true nature. An Extremist, Im either one or the other, and im rarely in between.

I trust the universe, but at times it is telling me to do something, that I cant do it for some 'personal' reason. If you like, God speaks to me so strong and clear I can almost hear him in my ears. When that happens, I usually dont do anything about it because a part of me does not want to turn another page- its not sure if it is GOD or something else.

I am always alone... it is what I prefer. It is my nature and it is what gives me strength. But as an extremist, on the other hand, I am the total opposite.

Oh yeh... I would use 'manipulation' magick. But only if I was sure that I was meant to. Say for example, that person is being influenced badly by someone else and they needed my help to 'wake' them up. And maybe with someone that needs a bit of a 'shove' in order for them to realise who I am or what it is I want. Either way, usually I am feeling a little bit troublesome at the time. I can be selfish and possesive at times... but they are often squeezed out by my other more dominant characteristics.

Cruel Tendencies, do you have any ideas on how I can improve seeing my energy attraction with those around me?? I can feel it, but I want to see it like I see others so that I know what to do with it, if anything. Is there a book around on energy exchange or something?

[skymageinfinity]

Woah.. Im being propsed to already by lullabi.

Looks like my magic charms are already starting to work!

Im not that desperate, but can we urm... at least talk first? or do you wanna just cut the chit chat?

HAHA, how funny would it be if we were the first couple to get married through 'Astral Pulse'

*chuckles*

[Tisha]

quote:You really make me laugh you know. Really shows what kind of twat you are being. You either have no idea or are just playing stupid! *shakes head*

Giggle!   Twat = Tuat =  Egyptian underworld; sometimes a uterine cavity, sometimes a great snake around the world's outer rim.  Yes, I am a twat-tuat, giggle! [] Yeah, I know the sWords!

Ah, but I digress.  You were given the key to this mystery, but you threw it in the lake, choosing instead to pick at the lock with your fingernail clippers.  It is a pity, because when people ask, I like to tell them, but you are young, so perhaps someday you will figure it out on your own before you're a vindictive, lonely old man!

By killing the scorpion, I was not referring to you as a Scorpio (I find many Scorpios compellingly sexy). I was/still am referring to your ugly, vindictive, reactionary, cruel mean-streak that lashes out every time you feel threatened or challenged. This is the scorpion you need to kill if you want a strong, intelligent woman as a partner.  Because right now, only the stupid weak ones will let you near them, the ones that don't know how to run.

[n/a]

or the guys=gays!(blockage of sexual Energy)[]