David Icke, clearing negative energy (helping)

[ralphm]

I have heard him intrviewed but didn't know he was doing energy clearing. I have worked with Christan Hummel, www.earthtransitions.com. The site also has links. Don't know if www.slimspurling is still up but he does great work too. I have other links on my other hard drive, but I don't have time to find them now.

[Ra Denora Em]

http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/Main%20Frames.htm

Here's an excerpt from Jennifer Lee Reports about David Icke:
David Icke is 'controlled by the darkness', and is a 'paid agenda maker' by the Queen herself!  Understand he has a 'role to play' and has been put there on purpose to spin 'tales of distortion and to twist the truth' for his own agenda, and to create confusion where he puts in 'a tiny truth' and then plays with the minds of the people!

[majour ka]

Whos Jennifer Lee? ooops is she like realy well known?

Anyway, David Ickes Truth vibrations book is good! and acordding to one of my guides is true! (good title then.

Ive met people in the Canary islands who do alot of energy work similar to that of D.I, very intresting indeed.
I will say that im dubious of D.Is more recent publications, but then who am I to say! M Ka

[cailin]

hey RA Denora Em
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[cailin]

I have read Truth Vibrations and Days of Decision, both very interesting, I wonder myself about the story he has about lizard beings trying to control the earth,but the fact is, this man has got something to say. What he has said himself is if somebody tells you they that they find what he's saying totally insane and not a bit of truth is in it then why not ask yourself, what if only 30% was true, how would you feel?
thanks Ralphm for the link.
He worked with a medium called Betty Shine and I have also read one of her books.
People have  always been called mad when they say something that freaks the general public out.

[Anonymous]

www.stuartwilde.com is an interesting site, and seems to relate to what David Icke does. Stuart's site might have links to David Icke sites.

[Moonburn33]

as for the golden tree of light page- anyone who uses "sheeple" in a serious tone loses fifty credibility points automatically.

[atalanta]

I have visited DI's website, although I don't know anything about the fellow outside of this.  I don't believe what he has to say.  The reason I don't believe what he has to say hasn't got to do only about how farfetched everything he says is, but because he uses a very strong and ugly type of psychological mind game to trap people.

If you want people to buy your product tell them it is necessary to their lives.  If they seem doubtful you tell them even if there is a slight chance they may need the product they ought to buy it.  You only need to create slight doubt in a person's mind to get them to buy from you.  I think it was called 'getting the foot in the door' when I was studying psychology years ago.

The same method works in a different way as well.  If you want to strengthen your kids against them taking drugs, trusting the wrong people, etc, what you do, is immunise them psychologically against the pressures they will face.  The way you immunise them is by giving them information about the drugs, etc, but also what these other drug takers will tell them.  You warn your kids that these drug traffickers will tell them that they shouldn't pay attention to their parents because parents just don't understand.  They will tell your kids that the only way they will be 'in' is if they take drugs, and of course, only the up-to-date, smart kids take them.  You tell your kids this so that when it happens, they recognise the drug seller as a dangerous person, not someone who is looking out for them.

DI says the same thing, trust me cause I am in the know, and if you do what I tell you and believe what I tell you, you will be one of the chosen ones.  You will be special just like him and his followers.  Anyone who says anything against this is someone who just doesn't get it, isn't a chosen one.  And just in case you have your doubts, even if 30% what he says is true, you should just swallow everything he says.  Just throw evidence, analysis, half your brain out the window and call yourself zombie!  Youre his forever, cause as soon as you doubt, that 30% gets you and if it doesn't, the fear of not being special or part of the cult does.

It is this kind of people who set up these psychological traps that give those studying the paranormal and similar events a bad name and cause such mistrust in genuine experiences.

[cailin]

buy what product???

[cailin]

oh my god, you obviously have no idea what this guy talks about, there is no cult, that is laughable, all he says is that the world is going throught changes, there is nothing about feeling the need to be chosen, that is the most rediculous statement I have heard in a long long time.
I am actually shocked by what i read,
physycological mind games huh!!
this guy does research on the workings of governments all over the world, especially America, RESEARCH! This can be verified and researched yourself, when I said that if you only believed 30% blah blah blah well I was talking about all the evidence he has about the Bush admin. about Haliburton and about how some conflicts these days are fueled by the need for certain oil companies to get their pipes through countries that they had no control over unless they hadn some reason to get in there, I will mention no countries but there are more than one.
On the other hand he says that he is a medium (not his own words) but he recieves help from a guide or more, are there not plenty of people on this site who also have a guide? there is nothing far fetched about that, his main objective as far as I'm concerned is to get everybody to realise that the earth is a living breathing organism and that we should all stop consuming and destroying the earth like we are.
Is that mad, physcological mind games?
I am really shocked to realise how wrong a perception people have of this guy, I am not a fanatic or anything like that ( i can imagine the next postings already ha ha) but there are plenty of other intelligent people who also have the same views as David Icke.
The only physcological mind games that are going on are the ones on the news and in the media, brainwashed millions, what a shame.

[atalanta]

You must be confusing David Icke with David Suzuki(hope I spelled his name correctly).  David Suzuki also writes about saving the earth, spirituality, etc, but I would say that DI and DS are coming from very different positions.

As I understood things from DI's site and maybe my memory is failing me, he believes things like, Clinton or was it Bush as being a reptile alien in disguise. Something about the world being taken over by reptiles in disguise.  Etc...  He may talk about loving one another, saving the planet, etc, but I must have missed it for all the other bizarre statements he made.

They both have products to sell, ie, books, tickets to talks, etc but I think if I have to spend my money, I would rather spend it on someone who is a little more, ummm, grounded like DS.  Also, someone who has the ability to show evidence for what they say.

I also have experienced the presence of guides and communicated with those who have died, but if one of them told me to go out into the world and tell them that the reptiles are coming, I would first check myself into a clinic.  

Evidence is a funny thing, a little bit used by an honest person can bring about cures and great advances.  A little bit mixed in with a lot of creative imagination/interpretation can make a less truthful person, very rich and powerful, ie, Sai Baba, who has been shown to be paedophile and a charlatan and yet is still protected by India's leaders.  If I willed it, which I don't since my sense of ethics and morality wouldn't allow it, I could have a thriving newly created church/cult going within 6 months based on partial truths mixed in with a lot of nonsense.

I said that I had studied some psychology at uni.  I have had direct experience in what I am about to say.  I know of at least two Phd students whose statistics did not come back the way they wanted.  So they manipulated the results in such a way as to support their theories.  They didn't lie about their results, they just rearranged the stats so that they would conform to their hypotheses.  These were both very honest, scientific people but they were under intense pressure to get in their work before funding and visas expired.  Truth is not concrete, it is maleable by our perceptions, knowledge, skills, talents, by the things we choose to see and not see, etc, evidence can be manipulated and even fabricated.  If you truly believe in conspiracy theories, then surely, why can't you believe that a bloke with nothing better to do could throw together some facts and faked evidence to create a career for himself?  Why is it always the government who is creating the conspiracies?

I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one.  I am sorry if I have offended you, it was not my intention.  I only wanted to put forward my opinion of this person.  By every experience I have had and knowledge I have gained in my life, both left and right brain, DI appears to me to be either very deluded or a con.  I would be lying about my experience of him if I said otherwise.  However, I have only limited knowledge of him like I said, maybe I am wrong.

[cailin]

Ok fair enough, well I know myself that a lot of what D.I. says is a bit far fetched, but I suppose like every person even with the tiniest bit of insight I can decipher which statements and beliefs are more credible, what I do is I read a lot of books and I have realised that there is a common theme, D.I. has picked up on this, I dont have to explain what it is because we all know.
So thanks for the other name I'll look that up.
We agree really on the basics.

[cailin]

Hi, have many people heard of David Icke?
He's from the U.K. and I'm very interested in what he's been doing over the last few years.
I have'nt heard much about what he's been up to for a while now.
I'm very interested in finding out about the work he was doing with clearing the energy lines of the earth and trying to help with dispersing heavy/negative energy blockages.
I live in ireland and don't seem to be able to help, or talk to other people who are aware of this kind of activity in ireland or anywhere else.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Lisa.