TO Mr Bruce: about Kundalini

[Richard_kang]

hi guys,today Mr Robert just reply me and answer my question,now i share his reply to everyone,hope this can help you also:(thanks Mr Robert again!)

G'day!

The base center is the most important one to work on for kundalini.

Sex will not disempower you unless you believe it will. Sex is actually very
balancing, which will help you achiever higher altered states. Celibacy is
not a good idea unless the desire to be celibate comes from within. A person
may 'believe' they have to be celibate, but unless this urge comes from
within and is truly what that person wants, then it will unbalance them
through frustration.

The sex chakra can become involved in energy work, but this is not a
desirable thing as its way too distracting. Its best to work around this
center.



Here's something I have handy to cut in on kundalini.

Take care, Robert.




6) What fundamental purpose does raising the Kundalini serve?

>Good question(s).  Keep in mind that my answers come from personal
experience and observations, not from books. I've read very little about
kundalini.

The activation of the kundalini circuit can be likened to how a larvae
converts into a butterfly.  One does not grow pretty wings, but some fairly
dramatic changes occur.  The successful raising of kundalini gives birth to
a whole new bio energy circuit. In a way, all primary chakras activate and
begin working together to generate the new circuit.

The major changes occur during a raised kundalini session, which can last
from ten to 30 minutes, or maybe even longer with more training.  This is a
most profound state. I'll post something on this in a minute, to save me
typing it all out again.

But once kundalini has been raised once, the whole energy body begins to
reorganize itself. What exactly happens is difficult to ascertain but the
energy body seems to start growing and developing towards what will become a
new 'normal' state of being.

6a) Why would one want to do it and who (what type of person) would want to
do it?

Raising kundalini involves taking a big step in spiritual evolution. It is
possible that this could free one from the reincarnational mechanism of
life, and set one on a new path of evolution, the path of the masters. I
think ascension to becoming a living master is possible through kundalini.

Also, one of the most noticeable things that happens is that during raised
kundalini state, ones higher self manifests very strongly through you. You
virtually become your higher self, but still retain your human personality.
Bathed in the sacred Aummm, ones connection to God is extremely noticeable
and real.

All psychic abilities begin to grow stronger after kundalini has been
raised. And they are fully active during raised kundalini state.

I suspect that once developed (fully medusa effect and beyond) the power of
creation may become normal. But I also suspect that some knowledge of magic
and words of power and creation would also be required. Then whatever is
imagined will appear in the physical. Basically, one transcends and gains
control over the physical environment.

So, yes, spiritual immortality is possible. Physical immortality may also be
possible, if the energy flow out of the body can be reversed, eg, so one
grows younger at will. These things all need exploring. And I plan to do
just this.

7) In relation to item 3), at what level of development is one ready to undertake the exercises of Kundalini
raising?

I am still pondering the question of this criteria. But a high level of development is most certainly required.

One needs a strong and balanced mind, and a balanced personality and
emotions, and a reasonably heathy body. The demands of raising kundalini are
great. Full power real time OBE or high level projection are very easy in
comparison. So astral projection should, ideally, be mastered first. And
mastering astral projection in itself is a good indicator that one is ready
to raise kundalini. I think I just answered my own question.

However, some untrained people can OBE quite easily. So I'd say a
combination of at least a trained mind (through yoga or similar) and astral projection ability would be a good starting point.

Age may play a factor, too. One may need to be at least 30 before this can be done. But I need to experiment more to clarify this factor.


8 ) Are there various degrees of experience in Kundalini raising? I
understand some people have their crown chakras opened up for minutes or
hours after the experience, while others have them opened for many months at
a time. Does this mean one experience was more powerful than the other?

This depends on whether kundalini was actually raised, or whether we are
talking about strong chakra activation, or kundalini related phenomena being
involved.

There are various ways kundalini can rise, but the end result is the full
snake like phenomenon, which I'll describe in another post.

Today, a great many energy body phenomena and kundalini related activity are
taken for actual raised kundalini. It can be very confusing. But there is
only one main event; the snake.


9) Is there a point to raising the Kundalini more than once? Are the
experiences different in what is learned/gained every time?

Once kundalini is raised it must be developed and raised many times before
it fully grows. I have not gone past the full medusa and Aumm stage, but I
plan to get back into training very soon. It gets easier to do every time
its done.  In time, the fully raised state would replace normal meditation
and etc. This seems reasonable expectation.

Also, raising kundalini many times seems to help the enlightenment process,
which is a staggered affair; one step at a time.

10) What is gained by having the crown chakra opened during and after
Kundalini raising? What can one do with an opened crown chakra that they
normally can't do when it is closed, or less opened?

I'm not really sure about this as I've not experienced this. One also has to
define exactly what is meant by 'open'. Chakras are not like little doors
that can be opened and closed with some imagination and good intentions.
They are always active, but there are levels of activation. So an open crown
could jsut be a more active than ususal crown. This would cause some psychic
abilities to manifest.

A lot of problems can surround overactivation of the crown center. An
overactive crown can drain one of energy, so energy cannot be accumulated.
It just gets sucked up through the crown. Possession and various mental
problems can also be linked with this problem.

11) What are some of the things people report that they experience during
the Kundalini raising? Are they all fairly similar in theme, or are the
experiences vastly different? (e.g. traveling through tubes of light?,
seeing past lives?)

Yes, the experiences are fairly similar. Kundalini spikes up through the
spine are the norm. A blinding flash of white light in the minds eye, a
powerful OBE or near death experience. Some kind of examination by masters
or deities. I've not experienced past lives but this may be possible in some
cases. Travelling through a tube of light may also happen in some cases.

The variety of experiences may be caused by differences in development and
in the energy body, and by the age of the incarnating spirit, eg, spiritual
maturity, etc.

12) In relation to item 6), what is the ULTIMATE goal of Kundalini raising,
assuming it is a process that requires multiple experiences to reach an
ultimate goal.

I think the ultimate goal is to become a physically immortal master. But I
need to explore all this further.

I may have a way to safely train people using something new. This is
experimental but it may work. Kundalini can be raised in the pre OBE
vibrational state. I've done this and its quite easy. If one does not need
to raise kundalini fully first, it may be possible to train people to
cleanse and condition the kundalini snake pathway with a lower level of
energy than what normally occurs during the main event.

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There is widespread misunderstanding about kundalini. Most seem to
think its a raise once and its done kind of thing. But this is not the case
at all. Kundalini is a discrete bioenergy phenomenon, much like a sneeze or
an orgasm. One could not say after a single orgasm that ones orgasm is now
raised and active. Neither could one say that after a single kundalini
raising, or related phenomena, that ones kundalini is now raised. Kundalini
must be raised many times and developed.

A single kundalini raised experience may last from 5 to 30 minutes. Longer
may be possible with higher development. The raised state is heavily energy
dependent, so when energy resources are reduced it just stops. But while it
is raised one becomes God, in a sense. Ones personality is still present,
but ones higher self rises very close to the surface indeed. And ones higher
self is about as close to God as one can get. So raised kundalini could be
called a full higher self manifestation.

The psychic abilities this causes are the natural abilities of a spirit, and
of ones higher self. They are not created out of nothing, they are freed.

Kundalini does change one and one does experience enlightenment during its
peak. But this is abstract enlightenment, eg, one knows everything at the
time because one is experiencing a level of God consciousness. But after the
experience one reverts to normal consciousness and knowledge. However,
something is then changed and ones inspirational abilities, plus all psychic
abilities, are greatly enhanced.

Then begins the staggered realization process where higher knowledge is
gained one small step at a time. But this progressive gaining of knowledge
will only bear true fruit if one has a sound belief system, and if one
applies the empirical process, eg, first build a solid foundation and then
add to it one thing at a time. If this discipline is not applied one is
likely to float away with the faries.

There are three main ways that kundalini will rise. The first is
spontaneously, in response to mental and emotional and spiritual states of
being, eg, Carl Jung had a spontaneous kundalini rising. The second is
through yoga practice where the body and mind are developed to the point
where kundalini will rise naturally. The third is to manually raise
kundalini by manipulating the energy body with body awareness techniques.
Ideally, a combination of all three would provide the best and safest
results.

To do this, one must first understand the nature of primary energy centers,
chakras, and the base center. A fundamental aspect of the base center is
that it acts a lot like an electrical capacitor. It is also heavily shielded
and earthed, in a bioenergy sense. Another aspect of chakras is their
ability to 'strobe'. This is a natural high level function. Once a chakra's
energy peaks, reaches critical mass, it strobes and releases all its energy
in one moment. The natural path for this energy is upwards, and as it floods
upwards it creates new high voltage energy conduits, and flash activates the
chakras above one at a time. This last can happen in several ways, depending
on how prepared the energy body is, but there is only one raised kundalini
phenomenon, eg, the full internal snake phenomenon.

When kundalini rises, it feels like a physical snake as thick as a man's
wrist forces its way up through the perenium; between anus and genitals. It
forces its way in 3.5 clockwise spiral up through the body. Ones internal
organs will be felt sloshing and moving as they are pushed out of the way,
as kundalini raises through the body, neck and head to the crown.

The internal snake phenomenon is caused by an internal manifestation of
ectoplasm. This is the only reasonable explanation.

A brilliant minds eye flash of light (like a giant camera flash) will occur
at the beginning of a kundalini raising. This leaves a feeling of mild
concussion on the face, as if one had been slapped. This is because the
whole face contains the support structure for the brow chakra, and is thus
involved with the brow center strobe. Note that the brow center strobe can
occur seperately from a kundalini event, eg, during the formation of the
vision screen of high function clairvoyance (what could be called a
Nostradamus level phenomena). Brow center strobes can also result from
various practices, including meditation and astral projection exercises. If
this happens, it indicates strong natural clairvoyance potential is present,
even if dormant and unrealized.

Normally the crown and brow will not fully activate during early kundalini
raising events. But once these activate it feels like ones skull vanishes
and from the surface of ones brain hundreds of fat, fleshy fingers, like
little snakes, are felt to appear. These feel as real as ones other fingers.
At this time, the brow fuses with the crown the one in the nose bridge, and
this new chakra structure is felt as a heavy, fleshy flap hanging down over
ones brow and bridge of nose. This feels as if ones skull (the entire area
above the hair line) has turned into a sea anenome.

These fingers (I think the eastern term is petals) respond instantly to
thought. If one things of any concept, the fingers form intricate geometric
patterns. I think this may be where mandallas come from. Note, if you read
the book 'Secret of the Golden Flower', in the commentary by Jung, he
explains that mandallas are resident in the human psyche in all races. I highly recommend this book.

Another interesting phenomenon here is that if one thinks of a living
person, these fingers form a pattern, but some also point to 'where' this
person is in the real world.

In order to raise kundalini, one must repeatedly raise a lot of energy to
the base center. Most of what is raised immediately leaks away, is earthed
away. But if this practice is continued, there comes a
point where the insulation is burned away and the base strobes. The first
symptom of this is a massive kundalini spike up through the spine. This can
be extremely painful, burning and electrical sensations. It is wise to stop
for a breather at this point, but without breaking relaxation discipline.

Note that if the body is not prepared by fasting and purging beforehand, the
bowels will turn to water and let go in response to full physical shock.
Now, if one begins raising energy again a minute or so later, another spike
will occur, just as strong but a bit less painful, and then the serpent will
be released. Ideally it will rise fairly rapidly and smoothly all the way to
the crown, in 3.5 clockwise coils.

I recommend 3 days fasting prior to an attempt, or other yoga purging practices can be used to achieve the same internally cleansed state. I find my energy peaks on the 3rd day. This helps as one needs every ounce of energy one can muster to raise kundalini.

A type of near death experience will usually occur. I don't have enough data
to say for sure, but this is a reasonable observation. In my case, I was
evicted from my physical body (I think it died of shock) and, in brief, I
was examinied by three deities (or ascended masters). Two shook their heads
and retired, but the third came down and helped me. He showed me my errors
and how to rectify my problems through spiritual cleansing (not physical).

When Kundalini has been more developed, eg, raised a dozen or so times (a week apart for each event is wise), and the crown becomes fully active, one will also experience the Aummmm. This is quite loud and if feels and sounds like the word 'Aummm' being said continually (one tone) by a man with a deep voice. This, I think, may be the underlaying sound (or Word) of creation.

Warning:  This subject must be approached with great care and respect. This is a long term goal, a lifetimes work. Raising kundalini is a dangerous thing to do. And the less prepared and developed a person is, the more dangerous it becomes. Madness and or death can result, as can a variety of serious physical and mental disorders, if one who is unprepared does this. As said, master wake induced OBE first, as this is not only a more achievable goal, but it also helps prepare one for higher levels of energy body activation and kundalini.


Take care, Robert

[Tayesin]

Hi All,
Quote:-
"Raising kundalini involves taking a big step in spiritual evolution. It is possible that this could free one from the reincarnational mechanism of life, and set one on a new path of evolution, the path of the masters. I think ascension to becoming a living master is possible through kundalini.

Also, one of the most noticeable things that happens is that during raised kundalini state, ones higher self manifests very strongly through you. You virtually become your higher self, but still retain your human personality.  Bathed in the sacred Aummm, ones connection to God is extremely noticeable and real."

Excellent!  My experience exactly.  Only I would say that instead of virtually becoming, etc, you do become your Higher-Self.  As I merged with my higher-self I heard from the Source, "Two become One."  And it was.

Thank You Richard for bringing this topic up, and for the good work in providing this information.

Love Always,[]

[Richard_kang]

hi,Tayesin,you are most welcome! Lets help each other[][8D]

[Jon_88]

WUUUT, This must be the most insightfull article on Kundalini i ever read. Internal ectoplasm ehh guess thats the ghost arm/snake thing that feel ultra soft lol or ultrasharp when it touches your glands .

THANKS ALOT ! just that description of what happens put me alot more to rest , finally i think i can write off once and for all being raped by a hungry sex ghost [] (thought i was 70 % sure of that allready).

I thought only the spineenergy was the kundalini! So in the beginning I dubted it was kundalini since although it was very similar symtomvize every site said elsewhere said it started alway in the back of the spine , while mine would always begin to act up between the anus genitals and bring the spine online later.

So basicly as i read it .The energy running up the spine to the head(and brings bliss) isnt the main event in kundalini , the ghost snake/hand gotta burrow/move all the way trough the genitial area and to the head (or is it the hearth)?(then i guess ive only been halfway there ).

Hmm i think i should try to ask Mr.Bruce a few questions myself.

[kenshinhan604]

quote:Originally posted by Jon_88

WUUUT, This must be the most insightfull article on Kundalini i ever read. Internal ectoplasm ehh guess thats the ghost arm/snake thing that feel ultra soft lol or ultrasharp when it touches your glands .

THANKS ALOT ! just that description of what happens put me alot more to rest , finally i think i can write off once and for all being raped by a hungry sex ghost [] (thought i was 70 % sure of that allready).

I thought only the spineenergy was the kundalini! So in the beginning I dubted it was kundalini since although it was very similar symtomvize every site said elsewhere said it started alway in the back of the spine , while mine would always begin to act up between the anus genitals and bring the spine online later.

So basicly as i read it .The energy running up the spine to the head(and brings bliss) isnt the main event in kundalini , the ghost snake/hand gotta burrow/move all the way trough the genitial area and to the head (or is it the hearth)?(then i guess ive only been halfway there ).

Hmm i think i should try to ask Mr.Bruce a few questions myself.

wat is ze kundanii and where can i find him?

[Risu no Kairu]

Kundalini  sleeps in your butt.

Well, not really, but it comes up from the Base Chakra, which located tweenst the genitals and the butt, so when it rises, it probably feels like it's coming from the butt.

[kenshinhan604]

quote:Originally posted by Risu no Kairu

Kundalini  sleeps in your butt.

Well, not really, but it comes up from the Base Chakra, which located tweenst the genitals and the butt, so when it rises, it probably feels like it's coming from the butt.

thanks[]

[pod3]

Hopefully, I've been working on this tirelessly enough to come a long way, fast. so you may hear some advice after a question is posed.

I have experienced all this and find that the socalled examining  masters are parts of the self. Aspects of the lower nature seem to be brought to the attention of your higher consciousness for purposes of reconciliation. Other attending presenses may be noticed, too.

[James S]

Hello Richard and welcome to the forum.[]

What a brilliant first topic you've posted! Thank you very much for sharing the info Robert had sent to you.

Kundalini is an important subject with far reaching concequences, yet there is still so much misinformation about it on the internet. Especially in light of the recent topics posted about it, this post of yours has come at a very good time. I think this will help a lot of people, so I am going to make it a sticky topic.

Thanks again Richard.

All the best,
James.

[The AlphaOmega]

Richard Kang, I too have spoken a little bit with Robert about Kundalini.  I must add though that this was BY FAR the longest post I have ever seen on the forum.  I came to this topic earlier, but just wasn't in the mood to read it at the time, so here I am now.  You may not get a lot of responces simply because of the novel sized text.  One thing you should be aware of is that it's almost impossible to get Mr. Bruce himself to see one of your posts and respond to it, e-mail is the way to go, as I'm sure you've discovered.  On a personal opinion, Kundalini is a strange thing and the answers are hard to find.  Robert (I speak as if we're buds but it's easiest to just call him Robert) told me that if you are serious about Kundalini you should first master OBE, because you will learn control over the energy body when you do.  Just a side note, when he reached his highest state of kundalini it was after a 3 day fast and 6 hours of meditation, so prepare for some strenuous devotion.  I have heard many MANY different posts on kundalini, but Robert is the only one that has actually given me sound advice on it's practice.  From personal experience, don't take too many posts on this forum seriously.  It's rare to find anyone that actually agrees, so search for yourself!  Good luck pal!

[Richard_kang]

[]Hello everyone.Thanks Mr Robert.
First of all,i would like to thanks James S make my topic as sticky topic,thus let more people to focus on Kundalini.And also thanks AlphaOmega's and Jon_88s reply.As we known the Kundalini is most powerful and mysterious human evolution method in the world.Like AlphaOmega metioned in the topic,i was waiting for Mr Bruce's reply for almost 2 week(almost sent email 3 times and also post my question on the forum).Finally he gave us a wonderful reply...

If u want to activate your kundalini,first i think most of us should focus on NEW energy system,becos I think this is the most basic level in the whole process.Energy is simply everything.

I have a little disagreement with Mr Bruce's reply.I believe that sexual energy play a crucial role in thr Kundalini development.When you are doing engergy development works,your sexual behavior must be strictly forbidden during this period,otherwise you are wasting ur life and time.
The ordinary people which never do energy works,their engery spead over whole body.But after u have done energy development works,all energy gathering in your major storage center.IF you release it in sexual behavior,it can be harmful to you-becos it can be release too much energy in one time,and you have to spent more time than ordinary people to recover to a normal body energy level.

My point is that no matter sexual engergy or digestion engergy,that are the same energy and comes from the same source,the only difference is your body use them in different ways.Our body energy storage system just like a battery,provide energy to various of channels,such as eyes,brain,sexual organ...

Another thing is crucial to kundalini is that your life must be organised in a strict discipline.This sounds irrelative to Kundalini.

The secret of Kundalini,only few can tell in the world...I believe everybody is a seed of god.Tell yourself,impossible is nothing.Lets help each other and put more effort.

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Who reveals the truth about God,and who comes from the Father.

[Moonburn33]

i find that if i "waste my sexual energy" it comes back to regular levels within a half hour.

[shadowdancer]

Namaste,
     Haven't been here in a while and I am glad to see what I see.  I as especially excited to see such an interesting topic as kundalini energy.  I, as well as Mr. Bruce have seen little accurate information on the nature of this energy and its purpose within the human psycho-physical form.  I have read your response Mr. Bruce and I have to say that the nature of the energy itself is, in its essence what you say it to be.  Meaning this; that I get "high" when my kundalini activates and rises.  No other body energy does this.  And this is my offering/question.  I have ready many treatises that speak of the kundalini(an essentially Indian term, a.k.a.-sanskrit)as the same, or equivalent energy as the conception and governing vessel circuit(as named within the Chinese model).  I have, through personal experience, found this to be untrue.  Within the Indian(or from this point on, i will call "yogic")model; kundalini is described quite well, and in a very similiar, if not in confoundedly symbolic and esoteric forms; as Mr. Robert Bruce shares with us from his personal experiences.  I don't know what experience you(Mr. Bruce)have had with essentially Chinese models of energy body jargon; but I have found relavitly little if any direct references to such an energy even existing.  I have talked to a few people who are more experienced than I within those models, and they too have had very little to offer.  I know that the hui-yin cavity is to be contracted; and within the yogic system of body energy jargon, this is the moolah bandha; "base lock" or "root lock".  Now, from my personal experience, the microcosmic orbit is felt(by me)when I do not try to lift the hui-yin, or a moolah bandah.  It is very important for me to keep a relaxed root and genital region in order for the flow of chi to become proper and balanced through the conception and governing vessels.  On the other hand; when I concentrate the moolah bandha, or lift the hui-yin(for those who do not know, this refers to the subtle (and there is emphasis on subtle for a reason) contraction or "lifting" of the pelvic floor, or the urogenital diaphragm; this in itself seems to activate kundalini.  Now, both sensations are quite different for me.  When I am working within the microcosmic orbit, I feel generally balanced, healthy and happy.  When I am working with kundalini, it is intense, fast, extraodinarily consciousness expanding, and at times frightening.  So, Mr. Bruce, or anyone else who may be knowledgable of the issues brought forth, I am interested in any information pertaining to these energies; their differences, similarities, their relationship, harmonies and contradictions and most importantly, other experiences with these energies.  Thank you all, Namaste, shadowdancer

[capelli]

He answered wisely, "How bout that "
 In my opinion the kundalini is most important. The base chakra; if that is the term for the chakra two inches from navel, is a place ching san feng (sorry if misspelled) the father of tai chi chuan' has taught us is a storage place to put "chi, ki, etc..) keeping the chi in this area results in more energy production not to mention all the other positive effects.

[capelli]

Forgive my forgetting but isn't the kundalini a term for the energy, or is it one of many terms for a chakra. I know the answer but the local pub gave me a beer buzz,
    So as I said before the energy if allowed to sink, or settle and store in the tan tien or naval chakra will increase energy and many other miracle-like side effects will result.
    The man whom posted this thread has a good point in his later reply.  The chi should not be wasted, but saved, In other words wait for a reason to release,

 p.s. not to knock sex
 p.s.s. do dare to persavere, by constant application greatness is achieved.

    Please forgive my momentary spelling blunder(s)

[Kato]

Check out this web site if you did not see it. www.freewebs.com/chipowers/

[Kalonek]

quote:Originally posted by capelli

Forgive my forgetting but isn't the kundalini a term for the energy, or is it one of many terms for a chakra.

Kundalini is a term for a special type of feminine energy based in the sacrum, the lowest part of the spine. It is the most powerful energy in a human being, and is said to be part of the enlightment process.

quote:Originally posted by KatoCheck out this web site if you did not see it. www.freewebs.com/chipowers/

I checked out this site but it has nothing to do with kundalini ... (?) Even with energy, it's only ki stuff seen everywhere else. I like the design though.

quote:Cup your hands like ryu from street fighter.

This gives the the level of the whole thing. I don't know who is this auto-proclaimed "master" but he should do some NEW training, it's far more effective than these kiddy techs. I especially like the "mega giga ultra death move" We should only use 50% of our energy but form a ball of the size of an asteroid !! rofl ! []
Anyway i like the design.

[Moonburn33]

our cult is better than their cult

[WalkerInTheWoods]

quote:Originally posted by Richard_kang



I have a little disagreement with Mr Bruce's reply.I believe that sexual energy play a crucial role in thr Kundalini development.When you are doing engergy development works,your sexual behavior must be strictly forbidden during this period,otherwise you are wasting ur life and time.

You can cultivate and store your sexual energy instead of expelling it during sex, which could have a very positive benefit in development in my opinion. Plus you will still keep the girlfriend happy. []

[Richard_kang]

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You can cultivate and store your sexual energy instead of expelling it during sex, which could have a very positive benefit in development in my opinion. Plus you will still keep the girlfriend happy. []
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hi,fallnangel,you provide a good idea,would you give me some detailed information?thanx[]

[WalkerInTheWoods]

Hi, Richard. This has been discussed on the forum. Doing a search will get you a lot of information. I would also suggest reading The Multi-Orgasmic Man by Mantak Chia which is available on amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0062513362/qid=1084273159/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/002-1694161-6352847?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

[Richard_kang]

Thanx fallnangel![]I will check it out!

Best regards!

[Lynfer]

I have gained understanding from Robert Bruce's reply that one should first pursue energetic development(NEW- my preference) and OBE before going on to kundalini.
 I discovered through personal experience myself the most effective way to practice NEW or any energetic development you are pursuing.
Trance/Relaxation. I find that after I stay in a deeply/fully relaxed state while keeping a quiet mind - I experience spontaneous energetic movement.
 In short- after a trance-linke state of being some enrgetic development is made. And even during a trance or trance-like state, energy is easily manipulated.
 As well I find that after and during this state- spontaneous emotional and mental healing occurs. I have not yet experienced physical healing as I am it seem s in good physical condition.
 But, one's healing and energetic abilities are expanded after a while.
 To sum it up- during a trance, relaxed(mentally and physically), or trance-like state, spontaneous energetic development can be made even without one's conscious effort(although that helps). And to further it, Other capabilities are temporarily expanded.
I hope this sheds some light![]

[narfellus]

I've not experienced kundalini (i'm working toward it) but i predict that one day, far from now, it will not be the mysterious, mystical subject that it is. I compare Mr. Bruce to Columbus: he and others are pioneering adventurers in the new age. They are RETEACHING what we have lost to time: ancient civilizations were familiar with kundalini and spiritual connectiveness. The knowledge was lost, whether deliberately or accidentally (the former i think, because we are the planet of Free Choice, and it's a hard one).

I am reading a book by a guru whose oral teachings have been translated and hard bound. (it's available online, but i don't have the name with me) It is yoga and mantra and words of power to raise kundalini. WARNING: as mentioned, messing with such energy at this point in human evolution is extrememly dangerous. The power tampered with is the power of the atom, the ectoplasm that binds microcosmic universes together. And probably macrocosmic too. As Above, So Below. Everything in this multiverse is truly, truly connected.

The energy raised, if ones body is not healthy, and the cells not primed and prepared, can cause irreprable brain damage and death. This is a process of human evolution where the species will EVENTUALLY all learn to do this naturally, and the vibration of our planet will be raised to utopic levels (is that a word?)

It is all very exciting and challenging, and...well, it's not easy. If it were easy there wouldn't be a point, and the point, like Mr. Bruce said, is to become enlightened masters, to be one with God, and realize that we ARE God, forgotten who we are.

Raising the energy levels is a lifetimes work, a worthy spiritual goal that transcends all religions, all races, all sciences. It is what we truly are, fully enabled beings of love and creation. It is how Christ manifested miracles like multiplying bread and fish and raising the dead. Our future is bright, but it must be won.

[Richard_kang]

quote:Originally posted by Lynfer

I have gained understanding from Robert Bruce's reply that one should first pursue energetic development(NEW- my preference) and OBE before going on to kundalini.
 I discovered through personal experience myself the most effective way to practice NEW or any energetic development you are pursuing.
Trance/Relaxation. I find that after I stay in a deeply/fully relaxed state while keeping a quiet mind - I experience spontaneous energetic movement.
 In short- after a trance-linke state of being some enrgetic development is made. And even during a trance or trance-like state, energy is easily manipulated.
 As well I find that after and during this state- spontaneous emotional and mental healing occurs. I have not yet experienced physical healing as I am it seem s in good physical condition.
 But, one's healing and energetic abilities are expanded after a while.
 To sum it up- during a trance, relaxed(mentally and physically), or trance-like state, spontaneous energetic development can be made even without one's conscious effort(although that helps). And to further it, Other capabilities are temporarily expanded.
I hope this sheds some light![]

I agree with you Lynfer,Trance is a shortcut to energy development,and very effective,but the problem is go into trance is not quiet easy,if we get too tired at daytime,we will fall into sleep while doing trance.Now i am still thinking how to go into trance more easily.