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Hannah b

take it easy upstream...this is about cats, but in a hitchiking way;))

I had this experience a few years ago, where this catlike..(something between puma..and a monkey) bit into the back of my head...it was weird, because when I started feeling pain that thing sent out some kind of tranqulizer that made me feel warm and relaxed...I also heard this beautiful music...and eventually drifted away to regular sleep.I was shocked when my friend took an astral trip a year later and found that thing still hanging on my back!
Discusting!!it was feeding off me for a whole year!
She took it off, and it didn't protest. a few months later while in obe I felt like the same cat like thing started approaching me and trying to bite into the back of my head. I grabbed it by its hairy liile wrist and shook it off. Imedieately 5 more cat like things appeared and started attacking me...it was one hell of a battle, and I'm sure they had good fun. They don't come anymore, probably because I'm wiser and know more about psychic defence...but I'm still curious...what where they feeding off from me???( I highly doubt that the last sentence is written in an proper english order, sorry my english then, I hope you get the point;))
The only constant in the Universe is change

narfellus

Good Lord, hannah! The more posts i read it seems like travelers are regularly attacked by psychic leeches. None seem especially dangerous, more just annoying, time-consuming and sometimes terrifying. I wonder what there objectives are? Maybe they ARE mindless like leeches, and just want to siphon off your psychic aura, whatever that might be. But others seem more persistent, either lost intelligences trying to reach a higher state of consciousness by tagging along, or actual alien intelligences with agendas we don't understand. This is all very enlightening conversation. Thanks everyone for posting your experiences...
If but we knew the power of our thoughts we would guard them more closely.

Patrik

Hannah,

Robert Bruce speaks a bit about astral beings feeding on your energy in Astral Dynamics. He calls them minor astral wildlife. They are basically like leeches, they clang on to you, feeding on your energy. He also claim that they do no more harm then a mosquito would do to the human body.

He also goes on mentioning that these beings would feed on you regardless if you were out of body or not. They would stick on to you while you were asleep, you not knowing about it, and they are harmless, although annoying.

At one time I woke up from an emotionally bad dream, I was in a good state and should be able to get out of body. I hesitated because of the bad feelings, but decided projections were to precious to ignore. Once out I found all these tiny beings clingong on to me. Most likely they were attracted by the strong negative feelings from the dream I just had. Although it did seem they could not penetrate my circle of protection, because I did not feel them in bed, but as soon as I left the bed they began clinging on like crazy. They looked like small round furry things with teeth. I have also came across other people seeing the exact same beings, on this site I think.

nitetravler

Hey Kerrblur, your approach to dealing with negative entities reminds me of one of my favorite episodes of the old Kung-Fu series.

Caine has to fend off the attacks of 3 assassins sent from China to kill him. Two are martial arts experts, whom he defeats in battle, but the third one is a black magician who uses his dark art to conjure up a demon that looks exactly like Caine. After killing several people the demon comes after Caine, who uses all the skills at his command to fight his supernatural foe, but realizes to his horror (after several skirmishes) no matter what he does, no matter how skillful his moves, the demon responds with even GREATER skill and stregnth, knocking Caine easily to the ground.

The demon is in fact TOYING with Caine.

Just as it moves in for the kill, Caine realizes (through flashbacks with his Master) that he's responding to the demon in the wrong way, and that using force or struggle against evil only empowers it. As he relaxes his grip and calms down the demon relaxes IT's grip, and with a slight smile and nod, a nod that seems to say 'OK, there's nothing more to fight here' it turns around, charges and kills the magician who conjured it in the first place, and who was sitting in a trance a short distance away, controlling the demon.

The great lesson in this episode for me was: don't respond to a negativity WITH a negativity, since it only empowers and emboldens it.

Not always easy to apply, but certainly worth remembering. [:D]
A man's reach should exceed his grasp, or else what's Heaven for?

-Robert Browning

Hannah b

The astral wildlife article helped me a lot:))but maybe it's time to read it again, just in case...
..heh...sometimes it's just unbelievable what  is going on in the astral jungle and you never know man, you never know;)
The only constant in the Universe is change

Kerrblur

okay, this is ridiculous, for the people who have no idea who or what a hitcherhiker is, dont throw out your theories lol here i go.

Patrik -
Yes, now if you keep doing things the way i do, it will Ease the fear that you have of him away, it just takes time, just like before you could project, you had major distractions, but after a week or so, that one distraction went away, and you got alittle further, this is the same situation, now in the astral dynamics book, he claims that you have to ignore him, well bruce was right on ONE part, but i personally dont think he had experienced one before, now, when you ignore him, you can ignore him but still have fear, now THE ONLY way to get rid of the fear to properly ignore him, (then he leaves lol) is to complements him, make him real mad, and ask him to leave, be nice to him always, no matter wut he does, lol try to start a fricken conversation with him or something, ask him if the pistons won lol.

Next person...

Nitetraveler - Your one fricken genius.
Hannah b -
Listen omg, what do you know about hitchhikers, and what does your experiences with fear of cats have to do with this crazy somewhat intelligant entity hooked on this guys back have to do with anything at all?!  i read that crazy post bout cats, wtf, i love cats, and you guys got to know that there isnt just negative entities all arouind the astral, it isnt some kind of hell!  read up on eckankar or something, read about being adventurous, and not soo scared of everything.  Theres good spirits, and even neutral ones!  not always bad! the only reason PEOPLE IN GENERAL see negative entities is because there minds have this FEAR this natural fear of something if they havnt been there before, seen it, heard it.  you know where im getting at, so basicly, you create the fear (AKA CATS) and the entities coming running for yea cause your fresh meat.

There is nothing positive in being scared, throwing crazy theories about cats and stuff killing you.

lol  
kung fu

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a realization of survival.  It
is an inner experience through which
comes beauty and love of all life.  It cannot
be experienced in rituals or ceremonies,
nor bottle in creeds

Hannah b

Kerrblur,
congratulations if you are one of those people in who's astral life everything works beautifully well...but please understand that there are some people who have had really bad experiences (I'm not talking about cats here). Battling fear is not easy for me because of many reasons.
Sorry, but you don't my story, and I know it's very easy to judge. I believe taht everyone has the right to it's own hell no matter if it concerns mosquitoes, cats, or mr devil himself. This forum is for learning and sharing isn't it??
If I'm wrong show me a kiddy forum where I can write about my little problems..I'll write ther from now on.
I know exactly how fear works in astral and thanks for the reminder, and believe me I'm working on that and it is not easy.

all the best, and seriously - lucky you.
The only constant in the Universe is change

Nay

Kerblurr, did you want me to ask Robert if this is the case?

quote:
now in the astral dynamics book, he claims that you have to ignore him, well bruce was right on ONE part, but i personally dont think he had experienced one before


To be honest I was taken aback by your post...it seems as if you have taken a side trip on the Ego train.  You weren't very kind in the way you judged peoples own experiences.  Perhaps you should write a book and we might all learn something.

Nay

nitetravler

Yo Kerr! You need to loosen your collar a bit dude. My using an episode from Kung-Fu was simply meant to say that using force, anger, will, or negative emotions against a negative entity will in all likelihood make it stronger, or more resolved, that's all. You missed the point entirely.

Jesus H. Christ, I thought my mom was dogmatic. [:O]
A man's reach should exceed his grasp, or else what's Heaven for?

-Robert Browning

Patrik

Kerrblur,
Yes, ignoring him really do not work, I have tried that many times... He just stays there on my back, happy and content till I end up back in body. And as you say, even though you ignore him, you still think of him, so it is quite hard to ignore him completely, showing no emotions.

I was lucky to get out of body this morning again, I put a lot of effort into it, I really want the guy gone now. I got out of body, and of course I feel him on my back, "hugging" me like usual. I started to compliment him, told him I had missed him etc. That seemed to weeken him, I got him in front of me. I told him I wanted to give him a hug, and tried to hug him... It litterally terrified him! He had my desk right behind him, I kept repeating I wanted to give him a hug and did my best to give him one. He tried to push away, and was NOT happy.

Now is the weird thing, my vision got better and better, and I saw his face, now he looked young. I continued with my attempt to give him a hug, trying to get close and at the same time trying to get a closer look at his face. Turned out he had the face of a very old friend, a friend I knew when young, although now he looked grown up. After looking at his face a little while, it started to melt. It looked almost like someone wearing a rubber mask, and staying VERY close to a fire.

I have two guesses here, as Robert Bruce for one claims, some entities don't have a real shape, but instead the mind creates the shape it thinks fits best, based on the current energies. So if that was the case here, perhaps me giving him complements weakened him, and me blocking his negative energies so I stopped seeing him as ugly, something similar to what jilola said earlier.

Second guess is that it was an attempt on his side to confuse me... Possitive entities can change shape to make it "more easy" to the person... So it would sound probable the negative ones can do the same to confuse. I don't know, but it was very interesting, and the entity was litterally terrified, lol.

Now is the question though, you state I should give him compliments and ask him nicely to leave, not to fight him. During this projection I tried to be as friendly, and cheerful as I could, really intending to give him a hug. But it was a fight, I tried to get close hugging him, and he pushed me away using all his strengths. Do you think I will do better just talking to him rather than using force, even if for good intentions?

Thanks again.


On a sidenote, please everyone, no need to start attacking each other. I don't think hannah mentioned the cat-entities because she thought they were related to my problem, but rather a stand alone notice. Letting people know of her experience, in case anyone feels an entity on their backs, but not fitting the hitchhiker description.

And Nay, I don't think Kerrblur meant to say he knows more than Bruce, nor that what Bruce says isn't good. But out of own experience he came to the conclusion that the solutions Bruce mentioned might not be the best ones. I have myself tried many things to get this entity off me. I have tried creative ability, I have tried fighting it, ignoring it etc etc. Walking through a wall, imagining him being scraped off really does not work, believe me. I am sure kerrblur knows what he is talking about, and I do think he is right. Being nice to the entity is the only thing which has had a good response, everything else has been in vain.

I appreciate everyone's attempt to help, even though this problem is not as easy to solve as many seem to think.

darkheaven

hi...
it's not nice hurting "ppl"...but sometimes is more...more what?...well...EASY...

one of the best weapons (defensiv) is the sign of cross...right arm outstretched, two fingers out of your fist...in the direction of the "whatever" (if they don't want you good)
i think this will be hard in your case


call your angel, ask him for help...or your spiritual guide

call god, ask him to take you upper...or somewhere else where that "thing" can't come...

(i sugest to call your angel or spiritual guide, to see what's the problem with that "dude")

this could be a test for you...find a solution!

nitetravler

Patrik,

Kerrblur may be well meaning, but his mean-spirited, insulting remarks were not. After all, we're ALL entitled to share our ideas here, whether or not those ideas find favor with others or not, but apparently some here would like to claim a monopoly on intellectual discourse. If that's how Emperor Nero feels, then maybe he should go elsewhere.

I don't think anyone here 'attacked' him, just pointed out matter-of-factly that he was acting like a, well...jerk.

Nitetravler, over and out.

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-Robert Browning

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I wonder if the phrase 'monkey on your back' is a subconscious reference to hitchhikers?
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jilola

Aha, so being friendly and loving towad the guy helps.

I'd like to put forward th eidea that nothing in the astral has an intrisic form but one inytentionaly chosen by an entity and modified by the observer. In other words someone may be putting up a certain appearance but you as the observer perceive that appearance in a completely different manner.

If the guy doesn't want to get hugged then don't force the issue. Talk, find out who he is, what his past is etc. It's obvious that your approach is penetrating the delusion he is, imho, suffering.

The face of a friend yours is in my opinion explained by your perception. By trying to be friendly your perception modofied the appearance of hitchker guy.

As much as Kerrblu seems to disagree with me we have the same aproach to the issue. Being friendly and loving toward the guy and not allowing oneself to become intimidated and frightened by him.

2cents & L&L
Jouni

Patrik

darkheaven,
Thank you for your suggestions, however none of the suggestions you mentioned works, I have had quite a number of chances to try different tactics... Don't you think calling for a master, guide or other higher beings has been one of my attempts?

What he does is really strange... he "removes" my voice. If you read the entire post you would also have seen that I tried to do just this when he took me through the floor. Unfortunately he made it impossible for me to get any words out when trying to say certain things.

nitetraveler,
I didn't say anyone specifically attacked him, I said to stop with the attackings... That included you, kerrblur and everyone else. I don't think his remarks were mean-spirited. I believe his comment to you nitetraveler was honest, and not sarcastic as you apparently thought. I do think he thinks what you said was genius, since it included exactly what we spoke about.

I do think he could have phrased the comment to hannah a little different. But I do not see any ill-meant remarks, not attempts to sound mean.

This entity is very, very, very annoying, he is NOT like any other negative entitiy. I have met those too, they are different. Even though I really do appreciate everyones comments, some comments which are really "out there", does make me annoyed. Suggestions such as calling for help, of course I am not saying I do not appreciate this, I do. But this is kind of an obvious thing, and of course I have tried this many times.

It just seems everyone missunderstands everyone... I really do not think anyone here had the intention to upset anyone else. Except from kerrblur noone here really knows my problem, so when I get an "obvious" suggestion I still appreciate it, since it was an attempt to help. While still it gets me a bit annoyed, since it makes me think they think this is a small-time easy to handle entity, which it truly is not.

jilola,
Thank you for your post, though "talking" to him in a serious manner does NOT work. Even though earlier thinkings, I really don't think this is a lost confused spirit. Well in a sence, all negative entities are, but I do not think any of us are capable of changing them, only a higher being can do that. Reasoning with him really does not work.

However being friendly seem to do, and if I can manage to get some sence out of him trying to get rid of him, then good. But I do not think it is possible to "help him see the light" so to speak.

Trying to hug him has been the only thing really terrifying him. And if that can help him to realize I am not to be scared with, then I think it's a good approach. If I was to try and break his delusions, that could take forever, if even possible. And he is ruining every single projection for me.

jilola

I get your point. There's only so much that can be done and if it doesn't work it doesn't [8D]
At least you're effort have resulted in some progress. I think you'll be rid of him fairly soon.

2cents & L&L
Jouni

upstream

Patrik, I have concluded from my mutual dreamings, that you find yourself unable to speek, when your partner couldn't understand you. (+ in the postseparational stage when having too much residual awareness in your sumberling body)


clandestino

Hi Patrik !

After a bit of searching through Ginny's old posts I found the section below that might be of use. Its about sending out an energy of "pure unconditional love". I'm not sure that it is the solution to your problems, but it may help !

Also, FWIW, I share Jilola's view that "...nothing in the astral has an intrisic form but one intentionaly chosen by an entity and modified by the observer."

Anyway here's an excerpt from Ginny's post :

quote:
It's been my experience in two years of retrieving that quite often children are very reluctant to leave with a retirever, a 'stranger'. They may have been taught to never trust strangers and so on. I'm not sure of all the details of her emotional situation and her environment There, but telling her about love was a good thing to do. And, share that feelling of love with her when you next visit with her. See/feel the love going to her. The energy/consciousness we call unconditional love opens perception...can momentarily lift people out of whatever fears/emotions may be blocking their ability to move on, see things more clearly etc.
Also, children love the idea of flying. I few times, when a child was reluctant to leave, I asked if they liked to go flying. I even showed one young boy how I could move up and down and he decided he wanted to fly around with me too, and I was able to take him to the Reception Center at Focus 27. Or you can ask for or just 'see' a magic carpet materilaize nearby, asking if they'd like to take a fun ride.
When I go on retrievals I always go with a Helper (Helpers are people in the afterlife who've been physically alive humans at one time but who've simply chosen to stay in the nonphysical to help folks There. They always come from a place of love. They can never impose their will on another. And they're always available if we need them , epsecially in retrieval situations)....or once in a retrieval situation I may ask for a Helper or a loving Guide to come and help out. Helpers are very creative in knowing and doing whatever it takes to help a stuck person, such as your little girl. The only reason Helpers haven't been able to help this girl out so far is because of *her beliefs*---and hers are really fear-based.
The child most likely *thinks/believes* she's still alive and so she simply isn't aware of *nonphysical people* trying to help her. She only recognizes those who are physical alive (retrievers) because she still thinks she is. All a retriever has to do is to , #1--befriend the stuck person (such as what you've already done...so now she'll possibly remember you and trust you more when you go back), #2--get a feel for their situation and why they're stuck (which you've already done--and in her case you may want to find out if her grandparents are deceased..would she be motivated to leave her environment to go and see them?) #3-- just help them to *become aware* of Helpers (because once they do become aware of them they're in very good hands), and/or you can at that point suggest to her flying, or would she like to go for a piggyback ride: whatever you feel while There, may work.
I think you were doing a fantastic job in being open to information coming to you. You just 'knew' about her family and what her father had done. This always happens in retrievals, for me. It's been my experience that it's usually Helpers, even loving deceased family members, who give us this info, just so the stuck person can become aware of them with the aide of a retriever.
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Kerrblur

Patrik and others -

     Okay I was away for one day and i get alot of people mad at me.  I mis-interpretted what I ment here and thank you patrik for backing me up while i wasnt here checking up lol.  Okay  I am sorry about the cat thing, but I wasnt being mean directly to you Hannah b, i was just in one of them 6 am morning moods trying to explain something real quick and not thinking first.  The statement I said was a universal rule of thumb that I believe is, your enviroment is what you make of it, and onlyy you can change it.  If you are seeing negative entities, which ALOT of people do, and I did too for awhile, still do, (ironicly lol patrik, after my hitchhiker exp. things settled down, this is a good experience for you, makes you strong!)
Because I was attracting them, with my ultra violet fear lotion(UVFL) hah!. lol and this brings me to my point that I've been stateing all along and alot of you are aggreeing with me and understanding something not many people bring up, you see by patriks experiences hes stateing here, love, positive WILL ALWAYS beet anything bad.  no if's ands or buts! and i mean no offense if i state something rudely or incorrectly.  If I do just say something Ill apologize.  

clandestino, thank you alot for coming to this thread and posting that, because you dont know how much a differance it makes having 2 separate people share two of the same kinds of information.
I see it clearly with patrik trying to hug the most intelligent low level entity there is. lol never tried that patrik, thats good one, your gonna get rid of him quicker than I thought.  

If what you say is correct, he ran from you, that quick.  You out smarted him with showing emotions, but who in there right mind ever tried hugging him? haha noone but you, it was new to him, wow, this is where you win, you get rid of this guy, you will see alot less negative entities i promise you this.  Your enviroment is what you make of it ;)

 Anyway I'll end this reply with my sorries lol, and I do aggree with you jilola sorry if i said something stupid. and anyone else, dam, didnt know i ticked all you off God.

Nay, Robert Bruce is the main reason why I dedicate my life to soul traveling or the other levels OBE and AP.  I am getting paid nickles and dimes trying to teach others at the eckankar center here in michugan.  Sorry I didnt explain myself better, but I hope my egos good [:P].
Soul Travel is an individual experience,
a realization of survival.  It
is an inner experience through which
comes beauty and love of all life.  It cannot
be experienced in rituals or ceremonies,
nor bottle in creeds

Hannah b

ok Kerrblur,
i forgive you, lol;)))
p.s. For how much would ya sell, even a small bottle, of the UVFL???;)
The only constant in the Universe is change

Kerrblur

for free lol

Been trying to quit.
Soul Travel is an individual experience,
a realization of survival.  It
is an inner experience through which
comes beauty and love of all life.  It cannot
be experienced in rituals or ceremonies,
nor bottle in creeds

Hannah b

lol...I'll try to find a phonenumber or internet adress to the "astral UPS" and will let you know;))
The only constant in the Universe is change

Patrik

upstream,
I don't think it is the case here, I think he deliberaly did it. You mentioned two cases were you have experienced unable to speak. One of them was when leaving body, and the physical has yet to become fully unaware. When this happens you feel two bodies at the same time, and while you are close to the physical body you feel you are "unable to speak". But in reality you DO speak, it just feels like monologue while still close to body. Once 6-10 feet away from body, and you can speak normally again.

This is NOT how this felt... It was like my vocal cords had been cut, not even sounding like monologue. First time it happened was when he took me down through the floor, I began to invoke a master. I could say it ok first one or two times. Then words got "lost", like I said them, but they didn't come out.

Second time it happened was when I tried to give him a hug. I kept repeating I wanted to hug him, and tried to get closer and give him one. I was able to repeat it many times, it caused major fear in him. When I began to see his face clearly, the words got "lost". I was unable to speak, it didn't last long though. It was like I was unable to say it once or twice, then able once again, then unable etc. It was like he really didn't like the words, and was really afraid of being hugged. So he pushed me away like crazy, and stopped my voice, perhaps to confuse me, perhaps because it scared him I don't know. But he DID understand me, I was able to repeat it many times before it began to occure.

clandestino,
Thank you for your post, when I tried to hug him and be friendly, I did try and feel as happy and loving as I could. I did not try and "send" it, but perhaps something to try, thanks.

Kerrblur,
Heh, makes me strong, good experience? ;) Perhaps so, but right now, it doesn't feel like a good experience at all, lol.

But I think you are right, assuming I can actually convince this entity to leave me alone. If one really has to say something good about him, he has helped me to overcome a lot of fear.


Kerrblur

Good deal Patrik! I'll meet with yea too sometime, I wish to see this guy. . . okay, have a good day.

*looks over shoulder looking for hate fans* [;)]
Soul Travel is an individual experience,
a realization of survival.  It
is an inner experience through which
comes beauty and love of all life.  It cannot
be experienced in rituals or ceremonies,
nor bottle in creeds

Patrik

For months now I have the following problem, quoted from Robert Bruce's Astral Dynamics:

Hitchhiker
A rare type of problem that effects aproximately one in two hundred projectors at some time in their life-a real-time or low astral problem-is an OBE hitchiker, which can happen to seasoned projectors as well as novices. After the exit you come aware that some being is holding on to you from behind. You often see a pair of arms encircling and holding on to you. This being may be silent, or may speak and make threats or threatening sounds. It will often answer if spoken to. You may feel you are carried around by it, or you may feel you are carrying it around yourself.

If it answers at all, this being will usually give short, cryptic, negative or nonsense replies, which may or may not contain threats. It may even state it is there to help you in some way-do not believe this. You will usually be able to turn around and see your hitchiker. You will often see a rough looking male face with glaring eyes."


It was however only a few days ago I connected my problem with this part of Robert Bruce's book. First time I really felt him grab me I was flying up in the air, happy because finally I had no vision problems. Then suddenly someone grabbed me from behind. I felt his arms around me, having them around my arms so I would not be able to move them. I asked who it was, and I got an illogical "cryptic" response which only purpose was to scare me.

I turned around, began doing a conjuration, I saw him limp away in fear. His face looked like being a man in the 40's or so. I chased him, kept doing conjuration, angry at him, because I was sure he was the one responsible for many other problems I had earlier, including vision problems, "pokings" etc. I chased him a while, and then returned to body.

Next time he showed up he held me much tighter, I began doing the conjurations, tried to get him off me... He had his bony discusting arms around me, his head on my left shoulder and only laughed in my ear when I tried to get rid of him.

Except from the first time I haven't really tried to speak to him. What he said the first time wasn't exactly something one "wants" to hear when one has a strange being around you in the real-time zone. There hasn't been many times when he didn't grab me, always from behind. I have tried many things, but he doesn't seem to want to give up.

Now is the weird thing, in the beginning he was 100% nasty, discusting evil. After a few times he basically just grabbed me around, I tried to get rid off him, but he didn't do much else... Just kept clanging on while I tried to fight it. So far it's understandable, negative entities always wants to prevent one from exploring the astral, scaring etc, and does whatever necessary.

But now is the thing, lately there has been a change... Now he has begun to "attack" me in my bed. About a week ago or so I was going to sleep... I was starting to loose myself in random monologue and start to dream... I rolled over, changing position, now just seconds from falling asleep... Then suddenly he grabs my arms... Totally shocked I jumped out from bed, I had no idea I was split! In other words, he cannot be subconcious.

Now I was standing next to bed, I felt his arms around me again. I grabbed the wrist on him, and was totally surprised, felt nothing like he used to... It felt 100% human... Warm soft skin... and he seemed to loosen his grasp around me (but still holding on steadily) when I put my hands on his wrist... A few secs later back to body.

This morning I split again, I was in bed, and before I had a chance to get up from bed, he grabs my arms, holding tight. I think I had bed covers over eyes, because my sight was very dark (strange but other people have confirmed that having covers over eyes can darken the astral for some strange reason (you still see, but darkened)). But I did see a clear dark shape of a man standing over me. Looking fully human, I put my right hand on his side, below his left arm... Trying to use creative ability to scare him off... There was no difference between how he felt and how any other physical person would feel. He didn't really do anything... he just stood there in front of bed, with a steady hold of my arms.


I don't know if it is the same guy in the beginning which felt bony and discusting, and this one. But he does prevent me from exploring the astral, and it is really going on my nerves. I have done conjurations before bed, I have a circle of protection around bed before sleep... I have several esoteric pentagrams over bed and around (put up as an attempt to see if they would help). If he is negative he should NOT be able to grab me while I am in bed!

The last two times I have gotten no negative feelings of him at all... Except from frustration that he ruins my precious projections.

Except from him being a negative entity, there are two possibilities I have been thinking about... A few months back, there was a murder around here, a guy stabbed several times. Also a few months back, a friend of mine commited suicide. I have started to think it might be any of them, confused, and scared... I have heard that spirits trapped in the past like that, such as ghosts etc, tend to stay around people and places they knew when alive. Also about a week after the suicide of the friend, I did see him using real-time sight sitting next to me in bed... though I of course cannot say if it was real or not, I wasn't split so wasn't able to communicate (in fact it frightened me quite a bit at the time). So that would make sence...

But on the other hand, it would not explain the negativity in the beginning... So perhaps just a negative entity pretending to be nice? But still should not be able to penetrate the circle of protection, and I would still get bad vibes I think from him if that was the case.

I am sorry this was a very long post... and I bet most people won't even bother reading it all... But if you tend to respond, please do... Any advice is appreciated, this has been going on my nerves for quite some time.