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I woke up last night and was awake for 10 to 15 minutes. I tried playing the file but the phone didn't want to play it. The total silence was 6 hours.

Edit: I got the sound from this website

https://www.zedge.net/find/ringtones/gentle

I don't know if I can post the file because of copyright.

Any advice?

Thanks.

Luff
Im not referring to Raduga. Im trying to explain how to use a "ramp" timer that gently disturbs your sleep with a single alarm sound to hopefully awaken you enough so you can explore that sleep/wake area of consciousness because that is where ap resides. Rather with Raduga or any other author the point is to experience that area just before you fall asleep or just as you are waking up. A 3-4 hour recording with one or two beep alarms interspersed will slightly jar you from sleep so you can explore that "groggy" state while you are fully conscious. Look for any strange sounds or electroEnergy/vibrational energy sensations. They dont happen all the time Luff. In fact they RARELY happen at all which is why you should familiarize yourself with that "groggy" area of consciousness. Also look for hypnagogic imagery or any images you see in that groggy state. Again-it rarely happens. It may take a month for you to notice anything strange or unfamiliar. Or it may be tonight. Thats why you must remain diligent and continue to familiarize yourself with that groggy state of consciousness. When an alarm does awaken you,  immediately relax as if you were going back asleep then pay attention to any noises or images etc. Let it unfold naturally. You seem to be putting the cart before the horse if you dont mind me saying that. Create a timer that has single beeps that you dont need to turn off yourself. Im not sure you are understanding the concept of the ramp timer.

Thanks,
I'll google it. I just tried to do the obe4u technique. I woke up and stayed awake for 10 to 15 minutes. After this, I tried setting up the audio but it didn't wake me up. Thanks.

Theres been a lot of advice on these 3 pages, but you seem to move on to something else before using advice. How often are you attempting this method? What part IS NOT WORKING? If you look at the link you shared above, after step 5, it has a small sample of issues/suggestions. (PS- Raduga's downloadable "book" spends a huge amount of pages to examples/issues and what he suggested to fix them.)

The link you shared has suggestions to these issues and more:
Which of these address your current issue - I didn't copy them, but he gives suggestions for each issue through out STEPS 1-5.

I'm probably having a problem with forgetting to separate. I also have a problem separating. It feels like I'm stuck to my body. I couldn't / didn't have time to play the audio because I had to watch a younger relative.

Thanks.

What do you mean you "turned off the alarm?" You have an alarm set that continues to ring until you turn it off?

I tried doing the technique on obe4u where you awake after 6 hours and stay awake / read and think about the phase.

https://obe4u.com/how-to-lucid-dream/

The first two steps can be skipped.

Any advice?

Thanks.

Tried doing the technique last night. Didn't get anything done. I set the alarm for 5 hours after I awoke. I just turned off the alarm and went back to sleep. The alarm I used is called Alarmy.

Any advice?

Thanks.

Instead of just downloading from YouTube (or having 4 hours of silence) I think I'd be better if I just got 1 hour of silence and then repeat that for four to six hours.

Thanks.

Edit: Just finished putting together a simple track in audacity for an hour I got from YouTube.

PM me if you need assistance. Its super easy to do. Good luck!

One clarification should / could I play it on an mp3 player app?

Thanks.

Thanks,
I'm just not as good with technology as I am with computers.

Thanks.

Thanks,
Would I be able to turn the code into an mp3? Also I'll try making my own on / with Audacity.

Thanks.

Luff
Why do you need an app when you already have a recorder in your phone? You can easily do this by yourself without getting an app. You can record silence by yourself without getting an app. Record the silence and then edit the recorded silence to install the alarms in the intervals you want. Here is a quick example of a ramp timer. This timer is 60 minutes of silence followed by five minite incremetal alarms which i believe is way to close together but again, get creative with what you think is best for you. You can even use the alarms from this youtube ramp timer as the alarm on your self created ramp timer by recording the sound. Understand? Good luck!

https://youtu.be/CDii1W60HBg

I was just asking about the app because I don't know how to play the audio while asleep.

For the example you gave the first alarm came in at 1:09:50

Thanks.

Just a quick reply with something ive had success with Luff AND I have sleep apnea. As far as sleep apnea goes simply lay on your left or right side so your throat doesnt collapse. As far as technique do you have a phone with a voice memos app for voice recordings? Record 4 hours of silence and then edit the recording where one alarm goes off in 20 minute intervals after the first hour or so of silence. You dont want an alarm that blasts you out of bed and fully awakens you that you need to turn off yourself. You want an alarm that gently rouses you from sleep and awakens you so you are slightly aware. Then relax as if going back to sleep and monitor/explore that sleep/wake line for sounds or energy sensations. After the first hour of silence in the recording set several alarms in 20 minute or less intervals so you have seberal chances to awaken at the sleep/wake line because that is where the obe ohenomenon resides. With trial and error you can adjust the volume of the "ramp timer" alarms so they only gently rouse you from sleep. Also-you will need to change the actual sound of the alarms after your mind becomes accustomed to them because it will sleep thru them knce it has.  My ramp timer had several different sounds in each recording and i have several recordings with different incremental alarms so as to switch things up. Ive had much success with this technique but im semi retired so i dont always need to get a solid 8 hrs. sleep either! You must be diligent in doing this so as to familiarise yourself with that area of consciousness. Good luck!

Do you (or anyone else) know what app I can use to play this during sleep once I have it edited?

Thanks.

You need a "tape recorder" luff. It is very simple. Its called "voice memos" on the iphone which the app store has a zillion tape recorder apps which im sure google has even more. Or simply buy one of those cheap digital recorders at walmart. The point of the "ramp timer" is to gently rouse you from sleep without blowing you out of bed. If you have 10 alarms set in a four hour period,  five of them most likely wont even wake you up at all because they must be gentle alarms so as to not awaken you fully. But once you do gently rouse from sleep from one of the alarms and become conscious, you MUST then immediatley relax as if you were going back to sleep. It is in that small window that you will sometimes experience enrgy sensations or strange sounds,  which turn into vibrations IF you relax and dont fully awaken. You are trying to stay awake and aware during the theta brainwave state. If you really wanna do this then get creative bro.

Thanks. Can't I just use the tape recorder on an android? Also, I wanted to know the type (or name) of an app I can get on google play.

I was going to also post this before I caught your response.

Found a couple of hours of silence from YouTube. Can someone guide me (or give a link) of what types of sounds I should put onto/ into/between the silence once I've downloaded it for personal use?

Thanks.

Edit: Is this the app you were talking about?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skl.voicememos&hl=en_US

Tried learning Javascript once my math skills are too low (around middle school level).

Thanks anyway.

Thanks,
I'd need to know what app to use to do this? I have four Android phones. Can you recommend an app that'll do this? Also, I have Audacity on my computer. I thought this board was gone forever because of the error that kept coming up. Thank goodness it was fixed.

I also wanted to ask if anyone could post a guide (or a link) so I can make certain characters/people appear in my dreams?

Thanks.

My affirmation is

I remain aware while falling asleep

The most important thing is not to just repeat it a hundred times, but as you are saying it in your mind really THINK what does it mean. What does it really mean to remain awake and aware as you fall asleep. You have to believe that the affirmation is working and not just hope that it will work. Just like you know without questioning that the sun will rise tomorrow, apply the same firm believe as much as you can (I know it is not the same, but try with intent)


The second important thing is to think of this and repeat it WHILE you are falling asleep. Let that be your last conscious thought.

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I think that's the technique where you watch yourself go to sleep. I've tried that technique and most of the time it didn't work/made me stay up and I couldn't sleep until I had no thoughts.

Edit: Could you or anyone else explain the second important thing in more detail?

Thanks.

Thanks,

If anyone else could make more affirmations that would be good. I like the first four.

If you use affirmations, then use them for whatever you want to achieve!

Your above affirmations seem to focus on the process of initiating phasing, and not on actually having successfully phased.

If your above affirmations are fulfilled by your subconscious you'll try a lot to phase, but might not phase at all.

Could you or anyone else edit the affirmations so they could be more effective? I would like it to be all of them, but it could especially be


I stay still immediately upon awakening.

Immediately upon awakening, I practice the phase.

I awaken multiple times during sleep to practice the phase.

Thanks.

Hi,
I didn't want to start another thread because I think it would be a waste of time. I wanted to ask how to catch myself awakening during the night while/before trying to do the obe4u techniques? I want to know if anyone thinks recorded affirmations (with a robot voice) is good?

These are my affirmations:

I stay still immediately upon awakening.

Immediately upon awakening, I practice the phase.

I awaken multiple times during sleep to practice the phase.

The first thing I do when awakening is practicing the phase.

I don't move upon awakening.

Every day upon awakening I practice the phase.

The first thing that's on my mind when awakening is the phase.

During sleep, I automatically awaken to practice the phase.

I automatically awaken during sleep to practice the phase.


Should I focus on


I awaken multiple times during sleep to practice the phase.

mostly?

Thanks.

Hi,
I wanted to know I asked this question on a group of FB but no one answered. I wanted to ask is it possible to go into area 51 but from the Akashic Records? An example could be I project (which I've only done once but it was unconscious and dreamlike) to February 25th, 1965 and then go into area 51 within the Akashic Records. I'm asking this because I know if someone tries to do it in real time they'll get caught. Would this work?

Thanks.

Hi,
I just got off school (still doing some work but not too much) and now I have more free time. I posted under another name zolo89 on Reddit and this topic was created.

Tell me what you think especially about the part of putting classical music as an alarm waker-upper.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AstralProjection/comments/8f48f4/cant_attempt_to_project_ld_with_wbtb_technique/

Each and every one of us have our own "internal clocks". I see you are using affirmations. I wonder some time if people just go through the action of just thinking a quick mental affirmation or if they really put "effort" into it. There is a difference. Just saying mentally saying without feeling, is going to have you go back to sleep no matter what clock is used to awaken you. Thinking and focusing on it with real meaning, purpose and emotion will have you staying awake.
When I use a affirmation, I visualize the letters in the chosen affirmation as well. I spend a bit more time on my chosen focus, then just going through the motions. I notice there is a big difference between going through the motions of just saying "I will be aware in my Dreams" and really "believing it" and putting a charge into it.

Looking back at this this is what I remembering using the last time I was recalling 4 to 5 dreams a day. Can you offer deeper information / links to websites that explain this?

Thanks.

In my experience, it takes a lot of energy from me. That's why for me I only do it as a stress reliever. Especially with the internet these days (that's all I'll say because minors could be reading this). I've actually gotten quite bored of it. As a male, it also makes me (in my opinion) value females less in real life. It also makes me stereotype the opposite sex because of it. Just my opinion.

Hi,
I just got adventures beyond the body in the mail. I've been reading a version I checked out at the library. I want to know whether I can do the techniques Monday through Friday and then do/try the obe4u techniques on Saturday / Sunday? The reason I'm asking is that I think it's my favorite book about astral projection (the only other books I would consider on its level are Robert Bruce's writings / the free obe4u book). I know he says in the book to do it every day for 21 - 30 days, but I have school now until May and can only do the obe4u techniques 1 to 2 times a week. Also, could anyone tell me their experiences with getting obes with adventures beyond the body? Does William Buhlman teach how to do what Raduga calls direct techniques where you can do it without having to do indirect techniques? In other words, doing it without sleep.

Thanks.

I thought that Raduga advised "cycling" immediately after you awake, before making any physical move.

Well that night I got up with an alarm (alarmy is the app on the play-store). I then set it up for every 45 minutes with another app called AlarmDroid. The first two times the alarm awakened me I forgot to separate and tried to do cycling techniques. Between the 3rd and 4th time I ended up fully awakening.

Any advice?

Thanks.

Last night I got up and stayed up for 25-30 mins. I then went back to sleep. The first two times I tried cycling and nothing worked. By the fourth/fifth time, I was fully awakened.