Messages

My own theory is that it is to experience and gain knowledge of how we affect our lives and those around us.  The results of our actions and those around us teach us about suffering, pain, joy, love, etc.

It took me a long time to 'learn' how to relax the body, and it does very much seem to correlate with how quickly I can 'get out.'  One way to make sure you have no tense muscles is to go through all of the muscle groups in your body and tense them as tight as you can and then let them relax.  I don't need to do this anymore, but it did help me become aware of muscles that were not relaxed even though I had thought they were.  Another thing I used to do that helped was imagine my body just slowly sinking into the bed/chair and imagine being very heavy.  Then there is the mental part you speak of, which is a bit more tricky for me.  I had a huge problem with getting my mind to quiet down.  This just got easier and easier the more I practiced meditating.  I'm not sure if this is the type of answer you are looking for.

Angie

That makes sense.  It was actually quite beautiful (to me anyway).  I didn't see anybody else while there, Grey.

Try meditating on this with the intent of gaining knowledge of this event.  The best person to interpret your experience is you  

Hi Kate.  I've experienced something similar I think.  I find I am very open to spirit during deep relaxation.  When I have a guide present, I get the strongest sensation of love, and it's wonderful.  I also get this with other spirit.  My ex father-in-law visited me yesterday, and I felt this same powerful sensation of love.  I also get this when I AP frequently.  It's wonderful, isn't it?

Angie

During one of my projections recently, I floated through this vast white room filled with gigantic clear glass/crystal geometric shapes.  I was intrigued, but, try as I might I couldn't stay.  I just kept floating right by it all...lol.  Anyway, it was very interesting, as I've never seen anything like it on my journeys.

Robert Monroe and his TMI team regularly did that.
They would work with terminally ill patients, teach them to project, assist them in setting up their "Focus 27 home" and then upon death, a group of them from TMI would be on hand in the astral waiting to guide the person to where they needed to go. 

This is kind of on the order of something I would like to do some day.

LOL. Yeah; I'll be going, "Ooh, I'm flying"

Heehee...I do that too.  I'm trying to be less impulsive these days

I almost always forget what I believe my most important questions are when I get there    Drives me crazy.  I can't think of anything, so I ask something dumb...lol

Thank you for all of your replies.  I'm not sure what it is yet.  I think sometimes it is the 3D blackness (when it is peaceful), but other times, I feel like I've actually gone to a 'place' but just can't visualize it.  I feel like I am with other beings.  Also, anyone ever get the sense that they are moving incredibly fast (it feels like a roller coaster ride and very disconcerting)?  This happens to me sometimes during the darkness.

I really like that last idea of yours, PR.

Sounds like you are astral projecting.  Also, sounds like you are experiencing sleep paralysis too.  This happens to me frequently.  It's scary at first to feel  'awake' and not be able to move.  I've reached a place, though, where I just relax and let my body wake on its own, because that state doesn't last very long.

This was a really brief AP of mine from the other morning.  I'm not sure why I find it so funny.  I felt as if I was being 'pulled' out of my body by someone (I get this often but don't know why).  I felt as if there was a being with me, so I asked who she was, and she said "Lana."  I asked her to take me where there were other people.  We went to an area that kind of reminds me of a fun house...things looked distorted, like those weird mirrors they have in at carnivals.  I was conversing with "Lana," and we were floating over this man who looked up at me and yelled "G@# Dam$%#, you're being to loud!" And that was it...lol

Angie

Just a bit of background...many years ago, an older man took advantage of my intoxicated state, and this is something I have carried with me all of these years.  About a year after that happened, I started having these experiences where I would lie down to take a nap.  I would feel myself being '
lifted up', and then I would feel like I was being raped.  This happened many times, and it was a horrible, horrible experience.  I didn't know what was happening back then, and I shut everything down.

About a year or so ago, my guide, Ben, made himself known to me.  I sense Ben's energy and know it well even during my waking hours, but I will also feel him when I AP.  I have been working on the 'fear' I have from projecting, and have come a long way.  I have also been doing some work on letting that man/incident from the past be put to rest.  Last night, before I went to sleep, I thought to myself "I wonder what would happen if I had that experience (the feeling of being raped) but 'interpreted' it differently." 

This morning, I had the opportunity to sleep in.  I got up and let the dog out and went back to bed.  As I laid down and relaxed, I felt Ben's energy with me.  I felt I was in a different state of consciousness.  I realized I could make my exit at that point.  I went to a dark peaceful area for a moment.  Then I felt as if I gone into a different area.  I felt Ben's energy with me.  Then, I felt as if someone was touching me (physically).  It felt good, but I became a little worried.  I asked Ben if he was of the 'light' (something I started doing a while back), and I felt this big energy surge.  I asked him a second time and got an even bigger energy surge and felt very reassuring.  BUT, I had to ask a third time (lol), and I got this overwhelming energy that could knock your socks off, and I felt very secure and loved.  Then I had what I can only interpret as a sexual experience.  I felt it physically, but there was something more to it, like a merging.  I don't know.

I feel like I have healed because of this experience in some profound way.  I don't think that my guide would go with me to astral to take advantage of me, LOL, but I am wondering what just happened?  I can't wrap my brain around this yet, but I do really feel my guide was with me.  Did the physical feelings come from me?  I would ask more questions, but I don't even know what to ask

If you are forcing sight, it's possible that you are opening your physical eyes and ending the projection.

I think this is probably true.

You can also try checking around your head for anything which might be obscuring your vision. A veil, some glasses, etc. If RTZ then definitely try and get as far away from physical body as possible.

I will try this

You could try William Buhlman's approach and give a "command" to your subconscious by yelling "CLARITY NOW!" or "VISION NOW!!".  It seemed to work for him.

I will try this.

Thanks guys.  It's weird.  I never used to have this problem.  I forgot to mention that I also feel like I'm traveling/flying at very high speeds when it is black or grey.  I sometimes feel a presence with me (reassuring, not scary), so I am not afraid, but I really do like to be able to see where I am going    I am not sure where I am (RTZ/astral).  I think I go from one to the other and back again, but I'm not sure.

I will give all of your suggestions a try.

Angie

This is new over the last month or so.  It used to be that when I AP'd, I would see everything in the realm I was in very clearly.  Lately, though, I've had to try/force 'seeing.'  I will see either gray or black, and when I try to 'see' something, I might get a quick glimpse, but it will be very hard to stay focused, and I will return to gray/black.  If I try too hard, I just wake up out of it, as I think I am probably physically trying to open my physical eyes.  It is sometimes very frustrating.  Any ideas?  Hope that made some sense

Angie

I believe some of our guides have a great sense of humor.  The impression I got when you got frustrated and asked if that was the best they hand, and they threw you around the room was...lol "you asked for it.    I doubt it they will give up on you.  They do not have egos that need to be satisfied like us.  They don't really care whether we are grateful, but that does mean you shouldn't thank them.  Do you meditate?  Meditation is a good way to connect with a guide.  Even if you don't hear them, they can still hear you.  There are many ways they can interact with us.  Ask them a question and ask for a sign and then be open to it during your waking hours too.

I only understood I had guides around starting about a year ago, and even though I don't even 'need' to know they are there, this understanding has helped me grow in ways I didn't know were possible.

Angie

Nobody I know of

I had trouble 'hearing' thoughts at that time.  What happened though was that if I became worried, I felt immediately surrounded by this intense energy/love and would also feel like he was physically holding my hand.

The next time, right before I felt myself leave my body, I asked him to be present with me.

This used to happed to me all the time, and I became so afraid.  This went on for many years on and off where I would feel myself float up and turned around.  It was just in the last year...one night, I was lying in my bed and I felt like someone was pulling me up again, and I just simply said "who are you?" and I got a his face, and I wasn't afraid anymore.  I stayed there, and what I got after that was loads of reassurance, and it was the most beautiful experience.  If this is your guide (and sounds like it could be), you simply communicate by thought.  This has led to many, many more such experiences even more powerful than that one.

I am used to astral projection.  When I project, I don't see my own body. 

Today, though, I tried to take a nap and felt myself rise up.  I opened my 'eyes' and thought "oh, I'm just still back in my bed."  But then I started rising, and it looked like my body was coming with me.  I was lying on my back and could see my legs and feet stretched out before me.  I then started going around the house (I usually don't stick around the house for very long).  It was almost impossible to move my body, and I felt like if I did it would end the experience.  I had to fight to keep my "eyes" open.  It took all my concentration.  Is this different that astral projecting?  It just seemed so different.

Angie

Here is my dream journal.

http://www.moondreamscape.blogspot.com/

I agree this could have been a guide.  You may have been 'blocked' from seeing your mother for some reason at that time (maybe she was not available for some reason or other...who knows).  Sounds like you were astral projecting.  Also, if this being is your guide, you might want to meditate or use your astral projection or dream time to ask him questions.

I agree with PR.

Also, we may choose to experience a disability just to have that experience....the experience of seeing how others look at those who are different, the experience of pain, the experience of not being able to do what others do. 

And this is just my opinion, but my own understanding of the universe is such that there is no time and space, and therefore, everything is happening at the same time, and therefore all of the limitless possibilities are already known.  I am having trouble wrapping my brain around this concept, but it is what I sense and feel.

Angie

Thank you Xanth.  I don't know exactly what I was thinking at the time.  I have had a couple of negative experiences in the recent past, which has mostly to do with me becoming fearful.  This time, I didn't feel afraid.  I 'heard' her say that statement (and was trying to think of what that meant to me), and then it seemed very sudden.  I know I don't have a physical body there, but I still hesitate when coming up to a wall and 'willing' myself to go through it...lol.