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I haven't had the opportunity to track all your posts, but I hope SP is not your only method of projection. You should be trying the more contemporary methods.
Awakening in SP provides a good launching point for some people, like me, but it comes with its unique problems and is by no means perfect even if you become somewhat adept at sidestepping the problems. I still get caught off guard at times and the hypnogogia freaks me out, or I don't respond properly, quickly enough. Or if I do succeed and withstand the onslaught, I then can't find a way to make use of the exit opportunity, it just doesn't work for various reasons. So you can spend all this effort working through SP and then still be frustrated in finding an exit. It's really frustrating, but it adds to the knowledge base. So I just remain open to 'opportunities' wherever they may present themselves. SP just becomes another one of those opportunities; don't count on it as your primary method; try many others if you want to be serious about this.
You apparently are quite familiar with some of the issues with SP. Work with that, work with what you already know from that. The 'feeling' that goes along with all these events is very important.
Once you make the adjustment to your mindset and remain without emotion, you will soon find that you react automatically and correctly (you do get like .25 seconds to get control, lol). Lionheart is not kidding you, trusting in your safety and ignoring the hypnogogia takes real bravery the first few times. This is the test.

As for dealing with the Sleep Paralysis:

The fear of suffocation is an illusion, partly brought on by your new level of awareness of the autonomic breathing process, also some would suggest, noticing some energy sensations or chakra activity in the heart region. This is one of the possible fears you may encounter and have to overcome. Any hint of fear is likely to magnify.
Most of us have to go through this.
Just the knowledge of this will help you to react more calmly next time and the suffocation effect should be noticeably less.
Then you will move to the next mini-stage. You may get a visual or hear something that startles you, or get more and different energy sensations. It's hard to say, but most of us get them from time to time when we find ourselves in SP.
The key is to remain very calm and not be disturbed in any way. After several experiences, you will begin to notice your thinking is changing and improving, you'll think 'Hey I felt that last time, and now there's this...and what's that now?
Just ignore it all, don't react and you will move through this stage at least a little more each time. Heck, you may breeze right through next time!
What you will find is that all this distracting activity will subside and you can then attempt a direct liftout or focus on a visualization or rundown as Lionheart describes.
Also check the stickie on Everything You Wanted To Know About Sleep Paralysis for a lot more depth on this.

Hi Paul,

Welcome!

There's great stuff here...you can literally spend years here... Better than all the books I've read...plus they answer questions!

Search and enjoy!

My point is that you don't know right now what possibilities might open up through paying more attention to your dreams. I don't know what direction your dream development might take either, but I do know that IT WILL develop IF you put some effort into it. You've already mentioned some precognitive type dreams. Now, I have never gotten anything like that, that I recognize. Other aspects of dreaming have developed for me; but it didn't happen until I started paying proper attention to it.

And I may have misspoken slightly: your dreaming self is not necessarily communicating to you; it is your higher/inner self that is communicating to you THROUGH your dreaming self, and through its development.

If you wish to consciously explore the Wider Reality, one of the traditional ways is through this dreaming identity which must first gain awareness and then expand its awareness and identity.

Certainly, if you can, you want to work along different lines to see what works best for you, what shows results. That may be meditation, energy work, visualization, chakra development, etc. No one can give you the answer specific for you; you have to find that for yourself. Dreaming is just a natural channel that we are all born with.

Kuurt, what Volgerie and Lionheart are talking about is significant. I'm still working on much of this myself, but I recognize the importance.

Your dreams are a method of communication between your subconscious/inner self/higher self and the conscious YOU... It's a linkage that works on several levels and has to be developed and exercised to fully understand what can be gained from the communication. You mentioned that you were aware of some precognitive dreams; I've never really gotten those, but I've gotten other things, so that may be just one of the subtle angles of Dreaming that you have uncovered.

You need to maintain an almost daily awareness of your dreams IMO, record them, maybe shorten the obvious daily housekeeping dreams, but stay open for the more significant ones. Or patterns like Lionheart said. You have to stay open and aware for them, otherwise they won't show. Again, it's a communication channel that's being developed; you have to consciously decide to nurture it.

Maybe you didn't get anything from your dream journal because you weren't expecting anything more than what your dreams presented on the surface. That's okay... You weren't aware to expect anything else; this is where 'intent' begins to enter into the equation. Once you place some intent into your expectations, your dreams self will begin to communicate more with you. And the nature of your dreams will begin to evolve.

Some ideas. Hope they help.

Glad to have you looking over things deepspace! Well deserved and presented; love the viewpoint!
EV

Welcome Kurt,

IMO, I wouldn't mix Hypnagogia and SP both ways. It may be reducing the argument to semantics but I just want to stress that if a person experiences Hypnagogia, he/she is not necessarily also experiencing the effects of SP (often negative). In this case, the Hypnagogia can be followed and used effectively for a 'phase exit' or it may just run its course and eventually dissipate. In SP, the myriad hallucinations that occur may technically be called Hypnagogia but they occur along with a potentially disagreeable 'energetic' component that can make things very difficult for the experiencer.

Rachael,

You are doing great and it's a pleasure to watch your progress. Hint#1(IMO) The learning, and the difficulty (challenge) of the learning never end...or at least for a gazillion years or so. 

Some thoughts from my perspective:

Your RTZ experiences are drawing to a close, you are losing the signposts that you once knew. Because you no longer need them. Now you have to find your way to phasing and the Astral. How?

You've already given yourself one clue: the apparent lack of volition/direction you notice in your projected double should be a strong clue. Szaxx gave you a direction out of there.

This apparent lack of volition/direction also indicates something else: the development of the 'second personality' that will need to occur. You build on this brick by brick.

Thanks so much for sharing; we all learn so much from this!

EV

Congratulations! You are making good progress!

This is your introduction to the NPR. Not exactly what you might have been expecting, but no one could predict how it would manifest. You applied your intent from many different directions and it finally resulted in a dream where you became aware. Technically, you made the greater realization that you were projecting and not just dreaming, but the advantage of that eluded you. The next realization is to understand what you can do and where you can go from there.

Probably a majority of us are introduced through our dreams, and we progress from there, gradually building our awareness during these events; it's apparently mostly a cumulative thing.

So this is the power of your intent, your will and maybe some affirmations. What do you think worked for you?
Again, don't get caught in thinking just one technique may work; try different things and most importantly, be open to opportunities whenever they may show themselves; that's part of the challenge, the fun!

How to project from a lucid dream? A few ways, but start with realizing how much control you have over the current dreamscape: Mentally command an element of the dream to change; feel the command. Command the entire dream to stop. It will freeze frame. You can then wipe the slate clean and try to start a new dream or command to be taken to the astral. This may or may not work for varying reasons, but it's a good exercise. Personally, what occurs to me most often is to notice any kind of portal and dive into it while expressing my intent. Windows, doors, pictures, mirrors...

Flying is pretty damn fun, huh?!

Hello celestialskies7!

And welcome to The Pulse!

This is a great resource for information and sharing; soak it all up, feel free to ask questions and do share your experiences!

Enjoy!

Maybe you will realize the difference when you answer the question, "Is it teaching me something?"

That's good progress Sagar,
You might try extending the time you stay active by ten minutes or so, before you go back to do trance work. Whatever you are doing, extend it by 5 to 10 minutes, and see if that helps the disconnect. It no doubt varies from individual, and night to night.

It's also part of laying the proper groundwork, prepping yourself for what you are expecting. And you are seeing the results already. Well done!

Stay the detached observer and just watch the process unfold.

Have fun!

Soarin12 describes it about as well as it can be described.

The only other thing I would add is an alternative to your visualization. Many people are able to achieve an exit through a visualization such as "the rope" or "log-rolling"; some can do it through a "stroll through the park" kind of visual.
I never could.

These are all techniques we began to call Rundowns.

What I came to be aware of, was that some Rundowns involved more movement than others. What has developed over the years are Rundowns that involve a specific TYPE of movement: that being rhythmic, up and down movements. Once you know what you're looking for, all sorts of variations present themselves.

Riding in a sports car down rolling hills, snow skiing a set of moguls, wake boarding, kite surfing, parasailing, riding a sled or tobaggon, snow tubing, surfing, motocrossing, sailing, soaring. And one of the first, thanks to an early Pulser named Selski, the trampoline rundown.

This particular movement helps to stimulate the energy body to the point of exit.

When you are that close to your physical, it can be hard to discern between the physical act of looking through your eyes and the RTZ idea of taking in information and allowing it to translate into a visual version. It's really one of the first great paradoxes to understand. There are many more if you follow what others report. It's a great learning curve, we never leave school!

Mkj, it can still occur at times, years down the road, depending on a few factors : proximity, lucidity, etc.. Once you're aware of the feel of it, when it doesn't work right, you'll figure it out pretty quickly and straighten things out. Just another of the things to learn along the way.

A further realization...something has been itching at me for the last couple weeks to read a section of Kurt Leland's book Multidimensional Human, and a section in there led me to his earlier book Otherwhere and what he describes as an "initiation", where he describes the 10 levels of dream/astral awareness and what is needed to move beyond and into the Mental plane... I had it all, just not in the order he presented it.

The second experience, the Lucid Dream, threw a bright blue helmet in front of me, and I wasn't sure what to do with it. In retrospect, I realize it was the mantle of Mental awareness. I might have grabbed it, I might not have. I'm not sure right now...

Either way... I know now...that I'll get it.

Read 2 things:

Szaxx's Astral Blueprint and Frank Kepple's Phasing Resource...all you need is there.

For starters.

SP is a biological condition that naturally occurs between sleep states, shutting down physical motor functions before you start a REM phase, so you don't thrash around and act out your dreams.

It's not something to aim for, as a target for meditation or trance work.

Some people, a small percentage, become sufficiently aware during SP. if you are one of those, then great! We can offer advice in how to take advantage of that. If not, then don't worry about it. SP has its problem side as well.

So don't focus on it. Read the Stickies and pick a technique from there.

People get fixated on finding SP or Vibrations... Its just misleading, you will waste time.

That's good advice Sagar, thank you.

I've asked in probably ten different ways and environments, my Guides just don't respond in ways I'm aware of. But I do notice them on the edges of my experiences more and more, encouraging me in barely discernible telepathic ways, I'm getting the message increasingly. I don't know, maybe I set it up that way, as a condition for coming down here, a minimum of help. Lord knows, I regret it at times if that's what I did.lol

I'm getting there...this last month has been tough, but rewarding.

I scored a 92, give or take a few points.

Since I was about eight, looking up at the night sky, wondering about the nature of reality; and my place in it.

Almost always alone, never feeling like I fit in with any group. Observing.

But also blessed with witnessing some wondrous events! And at last, forging my own way.

It's a truly incredible place we are in!

But I think I may have taken a wrong turn at the last star system...

Well, there are many sources of information here in the Stickies, the bold, blue sections. There are great books to read but all this is free. The Pulse has been my singular best resource for the past 6 years; there's lots to explore here!

My advice is, don't get fixated on any single thing right now. SP is a function of your sleep cycle; a small percentage of projectors mention it from time to time. But as a technique or something to aim for, you are going to go down a dead-end road. Same thing with vibrations; great if you get them, otherwise forget about it.
Read the sections in Permanent Astral Topics, read Szaxx's Astral Blueprint to start (in one of the top three sections)

As far as the "right time to project"... We are all different, so you have to experiment. Really, for someone new, the worst time is probably early evening or when you go to bed...your body is just too tired as well as your mind... Its a fine time to meditate, which is necessary to your development, but your ap attempts will likely be difficult.Naps are good times, middle of the night after a few hours' sleep, early morning...you have to experiment and there are other factors involved.

That's an interesting perspective Lion, but I can't disagree: EVERY out of body experience is somehow a lesson, with a conscious, directive force behind it, guiding our individual evolution. Whether its our higher self or someone else, thats just becoming plainly apparent to me.

I haven't checked out your first OBE but your description of this one, with vibes and the ear roar is pretty classic. Congratulations! You've had a taste of both now.

Regular, physical life does seem to take precedence, whether we want it to or not; sometimes years at a time.

The vibrations are a great phenomenon to experience. Early on they can be so violent and frightening. Later they smooth out as a perfect signpost of where we are in the exit process. Sadly, later many of us lose them altogether, maybe a subtle warmth at times. I haven't felt them for 3-4 years now; kind of miss them.

So where do you want to go next?

Its funny phase, it seems we are all good at different aspects of OBE, I've never pulled off what you did here, not got that level of cooperation from a guide if that's what it was. It's a very imperfect process...lol