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The way I see it is unless people really want to swap lives and are were unhappy with who they were before they swapped then I guess they would agree but I cant really imagine many wanting to do such an extreme thing and if there is no permission and you steal someone elses body whilst there asleep or something then you'll face penalties i'm sure.

(slams down money on desk) 200 bucks on the left astral projector! lmao!!

Nah fair enough I guess no one needs to do anything for anyone.

I often get nervous and my heart is pumping often more rapidly when I attempt to AP. Does this inhibit the attempt?

I had a Q about heart beats.

Before one tries to AP does it matter how fast ones heart is beating beforehand?

Yes we dont want "i'll see if I can astral project sometime next week maybe" we want someone now who can test this for sure asap with someone else lol.

Ansub....have you astral projected at all?

So whats going on with this?!? is anyone going to try it with someone else?!?! Ansub you doing it with someone you know who can astral project?

Ok so an experiment is in order.

Any volunteers pls boys and girls?

Why doesn't someone who has an astral travel buddy arrange it so they give each other permission to enter each others bodys then they can both be OBE at the EXACT same time as each other and go into each others bodys.

This is simple and the one way, the only way it could be proven if you ask me. Anyone tried this? any luck?

I've had little strange blue and purple lights faintly appear to my darkness when i'm in bed going to sleep (not actually asleep) I just wondered does this mean anything? I never used to get them.

Also I remember seeing a clear orange light as if it was something electronic I left on before I went to bed which I thought may have been strong enough to notice when my eyes were closed but when i checked and opened my eyes there was nothing.

Has anyone else had this and is it at all related mildly to OBE's or lucid dreams? ty.

K I didnt have an OBE but had a weird little thing happen to me:

I was asleep then next thing I know I woke and I assumed my eyes were open as I could see a part of my room but thing is I actually opened them a second later so I was viewing the same part of the
room I was viewing when my eyes were closed and I wasnt supposed to see anything. What is this? and I have heard of people claiming to be able to see with their eyes closed but does this have any scientific merit? is it possible to somehow see using ones 3rd eye?

Any info would be appreciated TY.

The technical term for such confusions is "Reality Fluctuations"
Even the masters like R Bruce have problems and they could not complete this simple test, as far as I know.



What do you mean? I thought they did etheral playing card validations quite a few times and they turned out correct (but yes they had wrong ones also but they wernt all wrong)

(Read above) So.....anyone? (sry just trying to keep this number 1 for now.

Anyone tried these vision whilst ones eyes are closed? is it real? can you really see anything in front of you while your eyes are closed? also - why must this skill be utilized before one can teleport things?

Also ....has anyone got any exercizes? (possibly the same ones that this Russian guy teaches) to make one able to see when their eyes are closed? links to any tutorials if you happen to know of any. TY.

You say he is charging for his lessons now? do you have any links as to where it mentions this online? please give me 1 or 2 if possible.

If he is charging now I think he'd obviously be more pressured to show actual no messing around teleportation. With this in mind, it makes me think his claims have to be genuine as it would only be a very short time before his students will be pressuring him to show exackly what he is talking about. It isnt like you can dally around the actual goal of the course and not actually have an obvious test done in front of each class. What you all think of this?

And about the Q......i'd Time Travel  

This is probably unlikely but worth a shot: anyone here ever had any OBE experiences from a Leylines crossing energy area?

I think what he needs to do is list a very basic and understandable method to do it with a simple page of writing. I have come across a blog on him: http://teleportation-101.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&updated-max=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=46 if you go to the 2nd utube video on there it has a online teaching, but trouble is again its hard to understand them plus there often seems to be some sound interfearance coming in and out.

If you notice at the end, the young lad on the bottom right says he has more coins since doing the exercise. I cant help thinking he's a plant like perhaps someone just pretending to say it worked to get people more interested or something so in the long run will take other courses where you pay.

Check out the tutorial videos guys and tell me what you think (if you can understand it) but I have the basic idea of the concept which seems to be familiarity with the object and somehow harnessing the feeling of the object and the energy intention and letting this happen thought the crown chakra then letting it "teleport" somewhere. I still cant help thinking; "surely it cant be this simple!"

Anyone tried that site and had results with placing your hand on the screen? i'm about to try a little later when it more quiet around here.

Take care Take care   ...(lol sry couldnt resist)

I went and checked out more on this Nikolay Denisov fellow. I looked at his UTUBE interivew vids but I be honest I have serious trouble understanding him or the interviewer. Although they are talking english, their accents keep me guessing what words there actually saying.

I also done a quick search for any pages about him rather than videos but couldnt find much at all.

Anyone got any pages about him (no vids of him trying to talk English pls lol)

Does anyone know what his basic idea of achieving this is? I'm very skeptical of this actually but its worth at least checking out.

K this Q is for those who tend to do chakra energy work to help them OBE.

After you have done meditation etc to enhanse you chakra energy flow, once you go out, is there any signs whilst in the astral or perhaps just before you exit your physical body that there is energy dissapating from your chakras to help you go OBE?

Also: If you dont do energy work on your chakras before going OBE do you find it harder to exit and perhaps maybe you dont feel as charged when you exit? Pls tell.

I read in Focus magazine not long ago that scientists have been able to do this to a single particle to the otherside of their science lab. It also said in the article that to teleport a person, it would take something like 200,000 Billion years.

So its technically possible LOL.

So when one has opened their third eye Chakra is that normal to sometimes be able to see straight forward even though your eyes are closed? that seems pretty far out. Sry dont mean to veer off the topic but had to ask.

Well this is simple: we talk about all of us and our OBE experiences and we are not sciences I assume but do scientists actually deliberatley induce OBE's for themselves to see what they are about?

If they have, do they still say they are all in the mind?

K most people know of Charles Tarts work when it comes to any known confirmation of things in the real world witnessed outside of ones physical body like the 6 digit numbers he set up.

I just wanted to know is there any other known controlled research comn besides Tarts work that have shown verification of people being able to view things out of their regular 5 senses? If so pls post links or info on anymore research that has proved successfull with OBE verification.

Nope it cant be done.

Seriously if it was possible I think Mr Bin Laden would had died from "mysterious circumstances" years ago.

Well what they show to us doesnt really answer this particular Q.

Why would they spend millions of dollars of manpower to track down criminals such as Osama Bin Laden when all the'd have to do is get some psychic/astral spies to go find him and burst a blood vessell in his brain or something to kill him? if it was possible it would had been done by now.