Messages

i'm going for gold too... and when i get there.. gold stars will lose a lot of value. oh yes.

i can't tell you much about nibiru itself without first going into the astral and doing some things.. but ive yet consciously project. when it entered the solar system, it was described in the sumerian 'enuma elish', their epic of creation, that it was a huge fireball, shining so bright that it was as white as the 'gold of the (gods)' or something similar to that. its also believed to be 2 to 3 times the size of earth but i don't know where this idea came from. the annunaki never told us much about their world or their lifestyle back on nibiru.

as do i. nice to meet you.

you have a seriously fruity avator, man.. creepy.. like the movie 'chucky' creepy.. o.o

here ya go:

http://www.keelynet.com/paranorm/auraview.htm

there are two sets of pics there. the first set is of a reiki master, and the second is a normal woman trying to astral project. note how the page says she had trouble ap'ing, like something was keeping her from going too far from her body. also notice the strange shape beside her body on the last pic at the bottom of the page.

ah! i just saw some pics like that (out of body people) the other day.. i'll dig up the pic and post it.

now for something completely different.

..you know what squeek.. I LOVE YOU MAN!

once again, squeek, we aren't talking about demons! good non-existant god.. do you ever read the posts here? demons are only mentioned in the thread name because it's a continuation of the last topic! you're really thickheaded, squeek..

vikram was talking about necromany and by aliens and such.. i recommend he read some of sitchin's work; i don't agree with this.

i don't really give a rats butt what you do, squeek, but seeing as how i'm sure no one is really being helped by your posts, conserve some energy by not posting on such subjects anymore. what you are showing us is not only your ignorance on the subject, but also your terrible apathy. some people actually question long-held notions instead of being sheep to them under the catholic church syndrome. you are neither helping or hurting anyone; you're just annoying.

but you're right: you need not say more. so don't bother.

if god was going to give us free will, it wouldn't be so we would have a choice in whether or not we believe in him. that seems a little hard to believe. if that was the case, he would understand how we atheists seem him as not existing and give *us* proof. i'm not going to believe in something from faith alone. pure, blind faith? pfft.. why dont you just believe in all religions to assure yourself a spot at least somewhere? god would understand where us atheists are coming from if he existed or cared for such things, and give us a sign, too. but he doesn't. there are no signs for anyone. you just go on pure faith. faith with nothing but old biased books to back it up.

it's still possible for the snowball earth theory to take place. being 1 or 2 degrees warmer, though making a pretty big difference, wouldn't be able to stop an ice age, where the earth is 10 to 20 degrees colder.

but maybe we should work on that. support killing the ozone, move to canada or southern south america, and save the earth from becoming a snowball []

think about it, athios.. if, scientifically speaking, we should still be living in caves with rock tools, that jump to language and civilization should have never occured, making it impossible for us to learn so quickly. []

that is the real mystery, because when sumeria popped up, it shouldn't have. and it wasn't just a large group of farms, as one might expect for the first civilization. no, they had buildings, streets, restaurants, marketplaces, sea ports, music, musical notes, and even hookers. that sounds like a bit too much of a jump, considering they came right from living nomadically off of the land.

and unfortunately, athios, we don't retain technology in our genes. we can carry instructions for a bigger brain (and our brains have not increased in size that much since the first homo sapien; we have once again went back to our slow evolving process as it was before neanderthals), but not instructions for building a memory of how to build rocket ships, or building a building out of clay. we have to experience these things to easily comprehend them, and that just makes sumeria more of a marvel, with its sea ports and written musical notes.

did it have a tail? if it didn't have a tail it definitely wasn't a comet, because all comets have tails created from frozen materials being blown off away from the sun due to the sun's radiation.

if it wasn't a plane, then..

tail: it was a comet

no tail day: satellite, asteroid (unlikely due to gravity), ufo (very unlikely)
no tail night: satellite, ufo (again, unlikely)

my guess is that if it didn't have a tail, it was a satellite.

the zodiac and astrology originated in ancient sumeria, and are relative to either their time period or the time of the greeks (the greeks expanded on astrology and constellations by making tales of how they fought each other, etc..).. the first set of zodiac signs against the backdrop of stars are now off totally by a whole house due to the slight retardation in our orbit.. when this retardation has caused us to fall back so much, a 'great year' has passed, and it's something like 3000 years (nothing to do with nibiru) .. i might be wrong on the number of years, though.. it's been a while.. the wobbling of our solar system and movement of the sun is too insignificant to have made much a difference since astrology was created a mere 3 thousand years ago. the stars moving away from each other in all directions has made a bigger difference.

that might answer something, but i couldnt tell you what o.O ah well..

racking up posts? lol..

nice responses []

squeek, the pyramids were perfectly in line with orion at exactly 1500 BCE (exactly that year! not approximated, it has been traced back) because stars are constantly moving, so you just raise more questions. who was there to build such huge structures at 1500 bce? civilization wasn't even supposed to exist back then. why would whoever it was build such things to point at orion anyway? sitchin answers all these questions. you do not. you raise them. 'mere astronomers'.. pfft..

if you want to be so naive, don't bother posting, because there is too much evidence for the solution to this to be that the egyptians were 'mere astronomers'. why don't you go read some of sitchins work instead of making arguments while ignorant of what evidence is against you? seriously, go pick up 'the stairway to heaven' and a lot of information concerning egypt will be revealed to you, especially in the closing chapters. unfortunately, if you just skip to the last chapters, you will be lost, as many sumerian and egyptian names and terms are used that were explained in earlier chapters.

vikram, you should also check out that book before making a theory. your theory seems to be based only on the information given on this topic in this forum. the book 'the stairway to heaven' answers lots of your questions. i'm glad that you're interested. what we are discussing here really is a remarkable subject. it's just too bad that the supporting evidence for it all is so hard to explain.. sitchin takes whole books to go in depth enough just to thoroughly answer questions about such mysteries as the pyramids, and it's hard to take out a piece of evidence without having to give all the background information required to comprehend the evidence's meaning.

audio books are also available on programs such as kazaa and winmx. i haven't seen a stairway to heaven audio book, and i haven't even downloaded the ones that are there, since i already read them, but they might be worth a listen, just as a preview. i've also uploaded a two-part art bell interview with dr. sitchin onto the file library. all of these things are worth a look, and loaded with information.

i got to this topic a little late, but its still good (simpsons.. bwahahahaa)..

http://sitchin.com/lurkingplanet.html

those comets/asteroids/small pieces of space debris wre created during the creation of the asteroid belt: when something slammed into a then-existing terrestrial planet between jupiter and mars. and they're still orbiting around the thing that slammed into that planet: nibiru. some newly discovered comets, you'll notice, have cycles of around 3600 years, the same length of time that sitchin suggested nibiru's orbit around the sun was, and he said this back in 1976. all kinds of rock debris from that planet is now hovering over nibiru, and before and after its perihelion, we should see a lot of it.

what sucks for me is that my great aunt's son (uncle? cousin? he's something) is in the kkk.. i was with my family on the way back from a fall festival held every year in fincastle, virginia (it's really a beautiful place during the fall. it's an old colonial town surrounded by red and gold trees and there are autumn-colored mountains in the background..), and we passed by his house, and there were all these trucks parked in his yard with the confederate flag raised up in the air.. confederate flags everywhere, really.. no doubt it was the kkk.

what the puritans were to england hundreds of years ago, these guys are to the south, only worse.. i like southern culture, but those guys really stink it up. probably issues in their personal lives, and they manage to pin it all on a race of people, similar to the way hitler pinned everything on the jews, only these guys aren't as bright as hitler, thank enki. or else sheer stupidity is behind it. either way, not good.

lol.. james, we have something in common: both of our countries were founded by people exiled from britain. turns out you got the better exiles, i guess []

i won't recap what everybody else just said.

"This is a RELIGIOUS concept, and the use of scientific jargon here is only a ploy to hide this fact."

scientists are trying to hide god from us?

"There are QUACKs in ASTRALPULSE that can lead you to doom if you let them."

doom? do you believe in hell, mirador? i'm sure you've heard that it was introduced between 350 and 600 ad. if you do believe in hell, do you have any ideas on why it was finally introduced so many years after jesus's death? and how can god send you for eternal punishment when he is infinitely forgiving? does he suddenly want nothing to do with you after you die? for he surely has power over 'satan'.

does time make that much difference to the outcome of the chart? i don't really know what time i was born; i just remember it was during the day close to noon.

maybe it's the fact that i didn't give a precise time, but it was only partially accurate. some of it sounded exactly like me, while other parts were way off, and there was a lot of gray in between. it reminded me of beethoven's personality, how he never fluctuated from his schedule and he was stubborn and had an extremely strong will. me, on the other hand.. i don't even have a schedule. i'm a pretty random person.

thanks for the chart just the same. i appreciate the time you took to make it for me []

i can't tell you who was closest to god.. especially since buddha didn't preach monotheism, and neither do i. but they could've been reincarnated scores of times by now. who can be sure? one of buddha's reincarnations might be a bum on the street, or a business man that has no clue. that might even be true for jesus. maybe the incarnations that made them the most famous were their final ones.

in both the sumerian and egyptian texts, one of the annunaki, enki in sumerian and ptah in egyptian, went down into egypt and carved out the rivers and deltas and made it so that once a year it would flood and help crops. he was said to have shaped the land down in what is believed to be northern egypt (look at a map and you'll see a kind of delta unique to egypt alone). so i dont doubt that the shinx was somehow exposed to water long enough to have some erosion. maybe the water even played a part in its contruction, as we used water to cut large stones today.

when the sphinx was first discovered, just parts of its head were sticking out of the sand. even now, many believe that not all of the sphinx has been uncovered. there haven't been any chambers found inside of it (it was even carelessly dynamited through the back in search of gold(!) by the same people who first did a 'scientific' study of the pyramids, and concluded they were tombs for people that were never buried there! and we still accept this idea today x.x) so many think that there may be chambers under it. the 'hall of records' may be there, where information is supposively given on the construction of the great pyramids.

i'm not sure, but i guess evolution is just gradual from person to person, and you wouldn't really be able to easily tell the difference between one species and another until millions of years have passed. thats why homo sapiens sapiens (us) are alien to this time period.. we evolved too fast. scientifically speaking, we should still be living in caves with rock tools, just starting to develop a primitive language. that's what we would be doing if we had kept a steady pace while evolving from apes.

only three things can explain this.. 1) we were altered genetically by something (annunaki, as stated by sitchin), 2) we were created ('god created...'), 3) a freak genetic accident, severe mutations on more than one person...

the thing thats wrong with being created is the fact that there is a collection of fossils that shows primitve versions of us evolving over millions of years. this is perfectly logical, reasonable, and explains lots of things.. up until homo sapiens sapiens. then all the laws of evolution fall apart and don't apply anymore.

the problem with a freak genetic accident that would cause such fast evolution is the sheer probability. like imora said, the probability of this is astronomical.

the problem with being genetically altered by aliens is that it sounds crazy and people won't accept it. other than that, perfectly logical pieces of evidence are offered by many sources, especially sitchin (and sitchin used hundreds of legitimate sources for his work).

the books *are* worthwhile. when i first sat down with 'the 12th planet', i was expecting to read a book on how evolution falls apart as modern times are approached. but i got a lot more than that.. it changed my religious beliefs drastically. i don't even fool with religion anymore. i just want to become much more metaphysical.. to astral project, and experience what's really out there, the whole universe.

if you don't mind thrasher, i'll take you up on your deal..

1/23/88, around noon.. christiansburg/virginia/us

even though astrology has always sounded illogical to me, too, i've always had this feeling that it was rooted in something bigger than what we normally sense or experience or know about, so i never really made any judgements on it..

btw.. nice mp3s [] that fat brown-nosing bastard! lmao []

lol.. yay!!

everyone should just use the astral pulse anyway.

quote:That point of no return is a lie.

a lie? what it means is that the white color of the ice will reflect much heat. just as if you have a white car and a black car, and they're both outside on a hot summer day, the white car will be cooler than the black car. it has been proven that dark colors absorb more heat. the heat goes somewhere, yes, but it isn't the white car. the sun won't start sending us more heat just because we're freezing, either..

sunlight hits the equator and the area around it more than anywhere else on earth. that's why the point of no return exists: if the ice gets that far, it won't be stopped because from there on, it only gets colder because more and more light is reflected and less heat absorbed.

i wasn't planning on starting a debate, but if you want to debate something, go here and debate these guys: http://www-eps.harvard.edu/people/faculty/hoffman/snowball_paper.html .. i'm not an expert on the subject, i just thought it was an interesting idea.