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Hejsan Mathias!

Have you dared trying Horus( ra-hoor-khuit) ?
I guess with the right invocation you could kick the excrement
out of most anything with this diety!  lol..

But don´t take it from me, I´m one of those booring persons
who never invocate or even evocate- I prefere to sit in my
lotus humming AUM...

Bless ya!

ps. du råkar inte bo i skåne ?

Felix


-- Love is the Law - Love under Will --

Aum is another good one I guess, or the name of watever your favourit diety of war might be.. or other god/ godes..
Hadit, the winged globe of energy burning within might be good, or the
protective arched body of Nuit..


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I´m not a follower of Crowley!
I´m not a follower of anybody!.. I go my own way.
I just said that I enjoy Creowleys books- thats all.
I Enjoy Dion Fortunes, and Robert Bruces books to!
This dosn´t make me a follower of any of them.

And well, there are things that all of these three eminent authors say
that I just cannot belive in, in fact there are MANY things Crowley sais  that I doubt.

It´s not healthy in my opinion to belive in EVERYTHING someone say just because of whatever reson..  ther´s a word for it - fundamentalism..

It´s human to fail- and all people fail sometimes- all people can be wrong-
including me, Crowley, you and Robert Bruce.

"Error humanum est!" (SPELLING?)

Felix

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Hi David!

Is there any reason that you are awake for 4o hours? Is it for the studies,
just some experiment or because of insomnia? Just curious.

I am a student at the University of Lund in sweden. I study religion- al different apects of it, history, psychology, sociology... but it really dosn´t lead to any jobs in the future- so I want continue with it. I only wish I knew what I wanted to do with my life.. but sadly I don´t.  

A good morning to al of ya!

Felix


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Hi Adrian!

Thanks for the Crolwey link! It´s always a good laugh to se what people have written
about him!

From the link -

"He earned a meager living by publishing his writings. Much of his nonfiction is incoherent and jumbled, but continues to have an audience."

What can I say??  that is one way of seenig it - and I guess the people who stated this have never read on single page by Crowley.  Otherways the only explenation is that they are wery feeble minded. I on the other hand have read many pages by Crowley- and it is far from incoherent and jumbled.

These kind of statements speak for them selfes. Judge the tree by it´s fruits.

But I have to confess that I´m not really a thelemite.. I just enjoy Crowleys
writings and find them interesting and informative. They are the most intelegent books I have ever read. That´s all- no more no less, and that is what I base my opinion on Crowley on; his writings, his heritage.. not his life-
It is almoust impossible to know anything about him, as he was hated even back in his days, and now the legends about him have grown even wilder.

I don´t even know if I should belive in the book of the law... after al, who am I to know
That Aiwass wasn´t just some up to no good spirit pulling Crowleys leg?
But I still do admire the book for some of its beauty and deep truths.

" you might like to re-consider doubting the word of Robert Bruce when he tells us of his accounters with Sai Baba"

I am wery sorry if I gave the impression that I doubted that Bruce had seen Sai Baba.. I just said that perhaps it was someone looking like Sai Baba.. just a a thought..  After all who knows?

I don´t understand why this subjective article should inlfluence my thoughts about the subjuct of Sai Baba?? Did I miss any important point of the article?

By the way Adrian,
I really value your comments, and you seem to be a sympatic person,
and it would be sad to disturbe the good mood of the forum with
discussion about trivial things like this...

I guess what I´m trying to say is this, I´m not trying to attac anybody..
and If I don´t belive everyting averybody sais, It´s just because there
is deep roted sketicism in me.. perhaps to deep.. I dunno- but, and
this is´important- it´s never my intention to offend anybody.

Bless ya al!

Felix


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Thanks for your interestings posts guys! I don´t know what
I should think about the ego and the possibility of being oneselfe.

It might be that almost all the "selfs" we have are products of
earlier experiences.. and that they have gotten a life of there own.

David- I wouldn´t see this as a way of hiding.. rather I would see
this as a mechanism of the Ego. All the different "selfs" we have
might have grown since we where born, and through the experiences we
have made. This would be a naturall thing, since we don´t live isolated
from the world around us, but in constant interaction. So we develop
ways of making the interaction with others as smooth as possible.

Just in this moment we who have this discussion here on this thread
of the forum continue that wery process. We exchange ideas and values,
and the Ego learns what reactions different statements evoke in other
people, and I guess unconsiously inkludes this in the current self we
are using. NOTE PLEAS- I´m not talking about a consious reaction now,
but a subconsious reaction. It´s just the same as learning to jump away
when someone is hitting you, ar pulling your hand from a hot object
in order not to get burnt. Our minds do learn this patterns in order to
be able to lead a functioning life.

I´m talking about the self representational aspects of the ego structure
now. These aspects are there to integrate memories and experiences with
the self representation. They are a dynamic process, continiously in work,
in order to give the Ego a way of dealing with the outsiede and the inside
world.

Our perception is always influenced by memories, feelings etc. etc, so
It´s really tought to get rid of the influence of others and the uppbringing.

We ARE influenced by the people around us if we whant it or not- so the
question is if it even is possible to creat a "self" totally in ones own way,
I would have to aswer -doubt it!  

Of course we can be more or less activ in the forming of our selfs, and
try to ananlyse why we react in certain ways, and get certain emtions,
and perhaps that way, we can reach closer to the core of the higer self.

But even so.. not thinking about it like that , but looking at it in a more
of a everyday kind way- it´s still tricky not to get influenced by others.
Most ideas we have probably are inspired from others, and from books
and movies we have seen. There is so much lying underneath the wake
maind that has a great influence.

Oops, I really don´t seem to get anywhere with this long winded post..

Well, an example from my friends- I have this frend who says he dosn´t
care about how he looks, an only wears black clothes because it´s so easy
to match when you only have on coloure and so on.. but he would not
were any fashonable clothing even if you gave it to him- he would not
wear a yellow sweater even if you gave it to him- So he really Dose care
about how he looks and dresses- he might not care in the same way as the
fashion slaves- but still !  he can only wer clothing that is "not fashinable"
and black.. so there  you have it!  He would never agree on this though if
you asked him!

So perhaps we are all looked in some ideas about our selfe that we don´t
Know about..

Hope someone got what I meant!

Bless ya !


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Hi Adrian!

No I would never ask for you to either spell magick with a ck, or belive
in Crowley as the propeth.

I really don´t know if I belive in Crowley in the way of the kliche enlightened either, I don´t belive in this enlightened person thing. I think that Crowley was
a man with a great knowledge who left an important heritage- and if you just look at the heritage, he has left more then any other religion... Just look at christianity- might be a good ethich conduct- but informative ?? no!

So it is in that sense I see Crowley as a "prophet" or "enlightend", that he gained great occult knowledeg and passed it on.  That he was a real pervert seems to be a fact though.. but hey- that dosn´t influence his heritage!

I have never had much left for these crowd gathering types, like Li Hongzi, Sai baba, Jesus etc. etc. Usually the say where little of substance.

Nita-

"I have noticed that people who are fearful people always want to not believe what someone else has seen or experienced. They do this because they are not ready to accept that such things can happen. They can have something strange happen to them and everyone else is supposed to believe it. Yet they will not give that courtesty to others."

I don´t think it has anything to do with fear- after al many people who choose not to belive in lets say werewolfs belive in other things such as wicked evil demons, whitch are not a too plesesnt thought either..

Bless ya al!


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Hey Richard, I made it!  I´m a silver member now-
Those were wolfs better watch out next time they head for sweden ey? http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

(Du förresten, fy f-n vad PM funktionen är seg ibland- det är så att man verkligen kan bli galen... Vad är kenesi? låter spännande! )

Yeah- be yourselfe! But as I stated in the new thread Know Thy Selfe, what actually dose that meen?  Has ot something to do with hair ??
After al, dose shaving my head meen I´m more myselfe then not - or
the other way round of course..

Well, Qui-Richard- Now we´re heading for the gold ey!

It´s abit like the olympic games, but this time I think sweden will winn big!

Or is it just computer geekish (spelling ?  nörd..) to collect stars???

Hasta luego..

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I have this problem- All wierd groups claim to have the truth,
be it Falun Gong, hare Krishan, The vittneses of Jehova, every
wierd New Age cult- And all of them "know someone who has seen it happen.."  

So should I belive every thing?

I only know what I saw in the documentary about Sai Baba-
That´s all.

And I was not kidding when I said that a true enlightene person would behave unlike a saint- just look at uncle Al!  He is the only true "enlightened" person of history that I can think of!  And he behaved like the society was one big joke..

So there you have it!  I say that Crowley is the prophet of the new aion..
And you guys say that Sai Baba is the only avatar!

Well, well-

Bless ya al

-And may this silly discussion perishe with the dogs-

Felix

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Hi Adrian!

Well, for Jesus.. I don´t know If I belive al about him either- the texts about his life where written down after his death, by people who had the intention of showing him of as a god... So I wouldn´t put to much truth into that.
I think that a great part of the bible is pure fiction-
Of course Jesus could be seen as a symbol, just like all other created symbols for the universe, like isis, nuit, hadit etc etc.

But enought about that..

Well, I have seen a loong documentary about Sai Baba- alot of the material
was video shots of him.. so I have seen him "materialise" things..
Of course he might still be an avatar.. even if he dose frauds too.

If Robert claims that he has seen Sai Baba- then he probably has seen
something looking like Sai Baba, but that dosn´t have to mean that it really was him.. Butn of course it could wery well have been Sai Baba standing
there befor him in the room.

I have no intention of accusing Robert Bruce, but you have to see it from
my perpspective- I have only read his books and posts on the net, but never
meet him personally, so I cann´t know what kind of person he really is.

From what I have read from him this far I can only say that I belive him to have
great knowledge, and that he seems to be a wise man.. but then I don´t even belivein everything that Crowley sais, and he is sort of like my house god!
So you see, scepticism is wery deep roted in me.

But, put it like this, I would never have belived Sai Baba to be a real thing.
But now after hearing that Bruce belives in him, I start to consider the
possibility.. after all, someone enlightened enough can do and behave as he pleases.. someone that enlightend knows that life is just one great theater.

I think that Jesus if he existed, was a real kick as guy!

-Never trust a profet that dose only good, for then he is a fraud-

I am sorry if I have stepped on any toes...

Bless ya all



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Hey David- I´m fully with you!  Be yourselfe god damn it!

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here´s a link-  www.saibabaexpose.com

Of course, sai baba might be a avatare even though he abuses people
sexually, and makes alot of fake tricks...  I guess, after all these two things
do not contradict one another.

He might do his fake manifestations just to blind the eyes of the ignorant,
It dosn´t mean that he dosn´t posses real powers.. but I still doubt it.

Wery few "enlightet" people gather that great crowds around them.

If Bruce belives in both Sai Baba and Werewolfs... then I don´t know if
I can belive in everything the good man says anymore.

But who knows, I might be wrong on this one too!

Perhaps there are werewolfs that actuall behave like the above given description, and perhaps Sai Baba is a real avatar..
Though both things would surprise me!

Bless ya al!

-- Love is the Law - Love under Will --

Adrian-

Now I realy get nerves.. did you just mention Sai Baba??
I hope you meen some other guy then the indina "miracle man".

Sai Baba is the fraud of the century... he alos a bit of a sexual pervert
who abuses joung men.. his adepts..
When he was confronted with the accusations from one of the kult
members he just replied - "Swami is pure."
Conversation over..

And for his materialisations... I have seen them on tv... you have to be
blind NOT to see that he pulls out the giddy things he "materializes" from his
sleews or from underneath the chair he is sitting in..

Pleas Adrian, take a net search on Sai Baba, and re think your opinion on him, I have to say that in his case I don´t think it´s false accusations... sadly..

Adept of light-

I think there is a greta difference between spirits, oobes, magick and werewolfs....

And for the book you mentioned- I have to say I´m scepticall until I have seen it with my own eyes..  There are so many people who come up with the wildest storeis and somehove manage to get people to belive in them.
The fact that these people are saints makes it even more suspicious,
saints always get such powers atributed to them.. because they are saints.
just go to any NEW AGE book store and take a look at what kind of ideas some wackos actually have.. about dolpihins, aliens, conspirasys (spelling).
New age book stores seems to be just another meeting place for the lunatics
and wierd people.. and of course some normal persons to, but they pick there books with som critisism..

If I would have found any account of werewolfs in any of the books written by the really great magickans of our time, then I would have belived in it. But I have not done that. The belife in werewolfs seem to me like a new age thing- just belive in something no matter how wierd without any logic explanation or proof.

But as I said befor- who knows, the universe is indeed a wery starnge and wounderfull place...

Be blessed!

-- Love is the Law - Love under Will --

Hey, Qui-Richard!  Revealig swedish men? I thought everybody knew that swedish men wear makeup !

By the way, talking about the part media has.. just look at the H&M adverts in sweden.. they always have half naked woman in there underwear- I have to say I get a bit anoyed by that- after al the largest part of what H&M sell is not under wear..  but, hey - it seems to work I guess.

"Sleep has his house"

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I agree, I kow that woman are just as bad as men. In some cases I think woman actually are wors then men.. but i dunno..
But I guess it was all in a joking kind of spirit that all post where written.

But, just the same- we probably should wath our mouths a bit

I think that we man have to accept woman shaving there heads if we want them to accept us to shave our heads..  (I don´t . by the way)
And woman have to accept that we men use makeup, if they whant us to accept that they where makeup!  (lol

I really don´t get that whole make up thing... after al why? why bother spending the whole morning painting the face? But I guess as long as I don´t have to do it I shouldn´t care..

But why do you woman think that you HAVE to use makeup?



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Hey, hey, hey!
I
where have al the good old chivaleric ideals gone??
Pleas don´t talk about woman like objkts like that, there
are woman on the list you know..

I feel like that guy In monte python right now- life of brian-
who sais- I whant to be a woman! I want to have a child!

No but honestly guys, a bit of repsect pleas!

-under the archent sky I lie, under the stary blue I dream-

Nuit, the al woman beeing the stary night sky.. treat her with respect!


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[Originally posted by Inguma:]

quote:Originally posted by Inguma:
Tom - I never thought I would hear anyone else say that! When I first started drinking my lips, mouth, tongue and sometimes jaw would go numb too! But this slowly faded as I got used to drinking and I haven't got it for a few years now. Any idea what causes it? Your versions seems a bit more extreme than mine, dunno what I would have done if I hadn't been able to get drunk, probably spent all my time stoned (errr....more).
Adios!

Hey Inguma!  
Your talk is slowly getting to me.. I used to drink pretty much once.. not wery much every a time, but a few beers every eavning ( hey, the beer her is wery not-so-strong 2,8% alcohole) to unwinde- and I have to confesse I miss it sometimes.. but it´s just not working to drink like that in the evnings when one is bodybilding and jogging.. but then again why the heck spend time on bodybilding? ?  still I do it, and it feels good.

The other problem is that it makes meditation a bit wierd.. you know, take some beers and the sit down to meditate- if you havn´t tried - do it!!!
But it´s no good in the loong run..

Anyway, all your talk about drinking and getting stoned is getting to me- I really start to miss it. (not that I ever used to get stoned..)
I never really got drunk either- just..hm... abit, to relax.

I am actually enjoying some FAXE beer right now.. ( you should know it Richard- its scandinavian.. or rather, danish..)

I get hig on my music in a way, I listen to pretty odd stuf like ambient, ethnic ambient, dark ambient and some wery beautifull "ethereal" stuff like Black tape for a blue girl..

I am a wery emotional person, I really need that kind of emotional, a bit dark music to survive, just like beeing out in nature- it´s wery romantic. In a 1800 centery kind of way.. seeing the moon and thinking about death !?
well, I guess you folks get my point...

"and why did you say that things shall fall, and fall, and fall,and fall, and fall apart.." - Death in june



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Hi guaopos y guapas!

I have to write again..

(Qiu- Richard I´l send you a Post Mortum... or is the PM perhaps private message??? )

I really love nature- there is no other thing that can balance and bring one back into harmony as nature. Strange thing is that I usually only feel this really blissfull you/ euforia when alone with my dog and portable cd in the clear night- it´s not the same to go around talknig to someone...

But I have feelt that feeling of utter beauty many times when out in nature.

-The stars are marching sadly..-


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My apt is my safe haven, and yes, the bed is the most sacred of sacred
places in my apt. I dunno what magickal pover the bead rally has, but it shure
feels protective to snuggel down under the sheets. I think it migth actaully have some protective pover too.

-Aum-

"the bells of saint mary, calls us to remember, that this life is with end.."

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Adept- I know that feelong too! It´s beautuful to be out in the eavning with the portable cd- and Enigma is not a bad choise of cd!

Felix


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did someone say wiki?  I think I prefere Kiwi! hmmm.. kiwi!! I just love Kiwi!

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HI MATE!
Check out the INTRODUCTIONS under Astral Chat, a great place
to get to know the memebers of the forum- and , yeah ,it is
probably the best beer in the world!
(ups.. best forum I meen of course...)

-Drunk with the nectar of submission, I feel nothing more, I feel nothing more, then existense...-

-paranoia is an icy start, but a start non the less..-

- AUM-

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Inguma-
Yeah, you have soem points, but, and this is my majour but, I still don´t belive it!  (lol- just kidding..)

But seriously, I have read about so many rituals, and read so much by the heavy occultists like Crowley and his kin, and never have I ever heard about this fenomenon of transforming flesh into astral matter/energy.. and I think that it should have been more commonly known if it really worked. The other thing is this- dose the human transform totaly into an semi astral beeing, or is the human still there with a wordly body that is modified? Why oh god WHY would such an higly developed human/spirit runing around on the physicall plane slaying its pray like som primitive wolf??

But as I said- I´m open for the possibility!
.. but stil wery sceptical about the thing with eating many bodys... after al there has to be some wierd process involved that dose the transformation from matter to energy.. and in that case why not "eat" a more sloid matter like metal, or perhaps plants- why exactly humans?

Tatta!

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Wow!  Where shall I begin???

Now correct me if im wrong..
So the werewolf is a human and/or spirit.
The wear wolf has great appetite? So great that it could eat a
whole human being? Thus, no corps is usually left after a wear wolf
attac because the werewolve has eaten the WHOLE body...

Hm.. so what part of the werewolf exactly is it that needs human flesh?
Is it the man part of the wolf? In my humble knowledege wery few
people could eat there own weight in flesh... If any human could eat that
amount of flesh, they would hardly be able to move afterwards..
Not even the lion can run after eating a big meal, not even a lion
can eat its own weight. Only the snake can eat its own weight, but after
doing this it has to lie around digesting for some weeks.
And seemingly the werewolf being SO HUNGRY can eat many humans..
Is it the astral part of the wolf?  - dose a astral beeing need material flesh to
gain strengh??? Is it even possible for an astral beeing to "eat" mater??

"I have told that to many people and I could tell many more things that I have experienced. Everyone rationalizes it away if possible because no one wants to believe that such things can exist or happen to anyone. If it could happen then it might happen to them. "

The reason that many of us doubt the existence of werewolves is not fear,
as you imply Nita.. it´s healthy scepticism... The comment on your part makes
me disbelive your story even more though.. sorry.

The late Dion Fortune had a more convinsing theory about werewolfs.
A human that has died, but feels like lingering around on the material plain
for a while longer might take (posses) a animal body, a dog or wolf for example. When the dog gets killed by suspicious people who feel that there is something wrong with it, that it is evil or has gone mad, the human spirit uses the last part of the life energy of the dog to make a short manifestation as it leavs thedead dog. People se this ghost rising from the dog, and voila! There you have the origin of the wear wolf legend!

The concept of mixing the physicall and the astral in the way that some have done her really scares me...  Pleas let it be either a human who has the ability to hypnotise its victims, or let it be a demon that can manifest as a materila beeing.  Or let it be a human possesed by a deamon- BUT pleas do not talk about a human being actually physically transforming its body into another physicall form..

I belive that ther might be werewolfs – but in that case I would in the rather choos Dion Fortunes explenation of them... nut the weird taken from a cheap horror movie Concept of a human who can mutate at will.

Why don't belive in Heeman, Superman, Spiderman, Dragons, Elfs, Gobblins,
Giants, Ents, Dwarfs, and all other beings taken from any fantasy, horror or comic.

There is an old belife about something called "tomtar" and "vettar" here in Sweden, they are something like smal dwarfs suposedly living around houses protecting  them. You have to do some sacrefices to them in order to keep them happy,or other wise thay get nast and mess the place up. The tradition is that you put out some food to them on some special days.
Of course, no one ever dose this any more, and no one belives in these creatures any more.. except some occultist that belive that the legend is about earth spirits or elementals.
The point is this, they don´t really eat the food that is put out to them.. the house cat probably dose that- it´s the gesture that counts. No sain person would belive that they are real physicall beings. They might mainfest and show them selfes sometimes, or people who
are psychic could perhaps se them..

This was just meant as a paralell to the werewolfs.

I have to ad that it is good to take a look at basic psychology, and see that all things experienced or seen dosn´t have to be true.. there is a greta power in fantasy, and even stronger so if mixed with the right amount of fear...or supersticion.

I have an open mind, and if any of you out there beliving in this wild werewolf  theory can explain the theory abit better and more logicall, perhaps I could belive
in it- but I cannot belive in it just like that...

The strangest thig still was this comment by Rober Bruce:

"No bodies are ever found after a werewolf attack, re a werewolf has a huge appetite and can usually consume several humans at a time."


This was just too much for my skeptic mind..

Pleas explain how such a strong metabolisim in a human body is possible- pleas!

Be blessed!


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Sometimes I guess it´s pure chanse... sometimes on reads a topic and really thinks - hey, interesting!.. but then perhaps you don´t have time to reply, and then next time you log on it has gotten a bit further down because of al the new topisc/posts and then you just forget about it..  This has happened to me many times...

well, but I know the feeling of being ignored too!   I ususally just answer to my own post, and then it jumps up to the top again and people seee it, and usually at least someone replyes.

Bless ya al!

-Aum-


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