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I think I get the idea here. Thanks guys.

Has anyone been able to 'act out' any in the astral realm at all? have you tried? is it possible? just wantred to ask as i've heard the idea thrown around.

I am not trying to project simply to perve but I just got curious since hearing 2 people elsewhere talk about their rather interesting experiences.

Have thought myself about testing possibly if one could go into the future by say a day or week in the etheral realm. Has anyone tried it somehow? what test could you try?

I have had it on my mind to be "mind awake body asleep" moreso than normal these last few days and this indeed did happen.

I 'woke up' whilst I was sleeping and was conscious within my own mind sort of awake half in a dream and half in just a black consciousness in my mind but I was not projecting. After a time I didn't really know what to do and felt myself thinking of waking up which was a mistake because that's exactly what happened not long after. What do you think would have been the best thing to do here to attempt to astral project? I know the mind awake body asleep state is very useful for projecting many say but once you are in it although you are conscious you may not to be able to think as clearly as normal if although still close enough.

What would the experienced projectors have done here?

in astral or OBE what is the best experience you have had to date? you don't have to be that descriptive but please include:


how long it lasted and roughly how much time in the real world was it

did you learn anything?

was consciousness very high?

did you want to do anything specifically whilst out there and if so what?

Can you try to clarify that statement a bit?

Did you KNOW you were dreaming WHILE you were dreaming?
Or was it a "dream" where the clarity of the experience was just similar to your waking life?  Yet you didn't KNOW you were dreaming?

The first is a projection. 

I knew I was dreaming while I was dreaming. It wasn't the clearest I have ever had a dream but certainly a lot more clearer than my usual dreams.

Was the other poster being sarcastic?

I have read here and heard about this technique before Its basically a method to pummel into you're head to astral project when you go to bed and goes like this: make a recording for an MP3 player saying "I will astral project tonight" or something along those lines. have headphones on you throughout the day (or whenever you can and when you arn't at work) playing the same sentence repeating through the audio every other minute or something. The basic idea is to just drum it into you're mind/subconscious.

I was listening to my recording almost non stop for about 3 days until I started having really lucid dreams when I was asleep but not lucid enough to be called projections but certainly more lucid than my usual dreams and that can't just be down to just coincidence.

Give it a little more time and I KNOW I can work with this! I just have this feeling I will have a full blown projection soon. I can't promise anyone anything with this method but its certainly worth a shot. Anyone tried it before? any luck here?

I can't count the fore warnings I've received. After attempting to save many lives by disclosing the info to authorities only to be threatened with an incarceration in a nuthouse.  Thousands died as a result of these few idiots. This started in the 70's.
I switch them off now once they appear.

Seems legit.

Why is that convenient?

We're probably in the best position (compared to someone new at this) to know that your chance to actually win the lottery is the same as you picking the numbers for that lottery in a projection. 
Seriously... just get your quick pick like everyone else and enjoy the excitement!  hehe

What? sorry didn't understand the sentence lol. Please explain.

Not to be the doubting Thomas and all but it sounds a little convenient that experienced projectors suddenly don't care about things like winning lottery numbers and such when glimpsing into the future.

Tongo, you registered here August 01, 2007. So in 6 years I am sure you have read countless posts with a ton of first hand experiences in them. Do you think everyone is making this up?

The simple answer to your question is YES it is "real".

Science sees things in terms of objective and subjective. If they can't see the "nuts and bolts" and how the system operates, then their conclusion is there must be no system period. But old science has been replaced with new science. Changes are being made to things they thought they had knew all the time. Someday further Quantum and Scalar Wave research will help them to uncover and understand the Multiverse better.

Experiences do not equal evidence. I could say I took something and had an experience and and saw green elephants dancing in the room but its not proof of anything.

In terms of science it seems they do have a good understanding of what parts of the brain does what also and I am not sure they'll ever conclude this is anything real.

This is more for the seasoned experienced Astral Projectors here.

I did have a very brief OBE some years back and it felt realer than everything i've ever experienced whilst asleep but at the end of it all I did find myself questioning the "reality" of the experience. We all know how powerful such things as drugs can be in he way it alters our perception and everything in it. The majority of science would sum up OBE's to be nothing more than an inner psychological experience and nothing more and this basically means none of us are entering alternate dimensions or meeting entities or spirits or really spying in the RTZ. ITS SOLELY ALL IN THE MIND but I can't help but think there is more to this. Validations seem to be the only real proof it seems they are rare and open to debate (and yes I have read the long validation thread here).

Is there ANY seasoned projecters here who can say without a shadow of a doubt that what they are experiencing out there is "real" in terms of going into other dimensions and such. I know you have to find your own proof but even if I was able to project more I would still be asking the same question regardless of how real the experience felt.

Please don't reply with questions like; "what is real?" you know what I mean.

I am referring to people who have specifically used a mantra throughout their day or days even to project from a lucid dream or maybe to induce vibrations.

How long did you use the mantra and what was it and how well did it work to project from a lucid dream or to cause vibrations etc.

Many speak of using a phrase throughout their day such as "increase clarity NOW" or something along these lines so when they are in a dream they find themselves saying it and wind up in a very lucid dream. I have had some success myself with this and was able to enter much more lucid dreams than normal but I know they were not an AP.

I got thinking ....do you think maybe if you did the same thing and instead of the "LUCIDITY NOW" or whatever similar thoughts and chants throughout the day for when you go to bed, do you think something like "VIBRATIONS NOW" might actually get you into the vibrational state during sleep and allow you the chance to project outright and this way you get to bypass a simple dream or lucid dream?

Anyone tried this? I am thinking maybe its not a bad idea in theroy.

Well, your "experiment" doesn't quite work that way.  But, I can confirm that you can "smell" in the non-physical.
Your experience there is very much no different than your experience here.

well why wouldn't it work if my experience in the non-physical would be the same?

Weird question but I was curious .....would you be able to smell things that are in the real world if you were to go there via the RTZ? I guess an easy way to conduct an experiment would be to have someone light an unknown type of scented candle or something a mile or more away from you then you travel there in the RTZ and take note of what you smell then after you have returned to your body you would confirm what type of scented candle was lit whether it be lemon or mint or whatever. Simply in theroy and could offer some pretty solid proof if confirmed.

Awesome! I to tried to do the same, but I tried to go to heaven. When tried to project there a man in dark robes appeared, and stopped me. I then said, you will not stop me! After that I rushed at him, and then I found my self back in my body.

Bro ....did you ACTUALLY try to beat up God?

You're over-thinking things... kind of what all those unemployed college and university graduates did. 

doesn't matter what they thought they still ended up not doing what they wanted to do. I appreciate you have the whole 'the grass is always greener' attitude but sometimes you gotta be realistic and its not always as good as you want it to be.

Just find something you want to do, then try to move towards trying to create a career in it.

uh yeh rite dude lol you see how many college and uni graduates have tried following paths doing jobs they want to do and finding the markets in those jobs to be over saturated and find themselves unemployed for years or doing jobs that are totally different from what they set out to do? anyway lets leave that discussion for another forum.

I was looking for a little meta-phyiscal information really not all this 'follow your dreams' lame garbage that everyone seems to say these days without realizing the harsh reality. I don't expect the astral to give me the key to finding the perfect job and perfect method getting there but I was hoping it could at least be used to guide one roughly in the right direction rather than one pursuing something that ends up useless (an over saturated or grossly underpaid market).

ok I'll assume the answer is a straight forward 'No'. I really wasn't looking for pep talks from everyone. Just forget it.

This may seem corny or desperate but I have some idea's on a career change seeing as I am unhappy in my current line of work and want to train/learn to do something else but there are so many people doing so many courses these days for so many over saturated markets. I really don't want to go back to college to waste time in course to learn skills for jobs that are just redundant and over saturated now.

I was thinking if I can get into the astral I could contact my spirit guide who may be able to point me in the right direction here but would this really work? perhaps they would peer into the future and say what might be worth trying to do in the future. I have been to regular career councillers and they all just say the same thing about what I can do to gain the education for it but NONE of them can tell me whether its really in demand anymore or not.

Like so many others these days I really don't want to try to get work in something that is really not in demand anymore.

This is an interesting idea and am wondering if anyone has ever tried to do this based on their own mindset of how their own dream perfect man/woman should look and be like and I think everyone has a different idea of this. Although you may not be be able to create it dead on exactly as you want it in terms of how they look and their personality I expect it could come close if you are able to concentrate and focus enough.

Anyone who is experienced ever tried this at all? what happened? I curious to hear about this.

For experienced projectors ONLY: I mean have you ever tried to find out the answer to something or seeked enlightenment or information on a subject in the astral about something here such as math for example or whatever...and been filled with information on the subject?

As I stood back up I saw a female entity.. I asked her can we have sex please? she said yes. I got excited with anticipation that its actually going to happen..

Dude you need to get out more. lol sorry I could not resist lol. It would be funny if it worked like this in the real world and could just ask a random woman for sex and she would agree with no questions at all lol.

I had a Q: did you have much of a perception of time whilst out there? or did it simply not exist? I am curious about this aspect of all OBE's. Well done by the way.

I have tried other methods in awake state without success so I want to try and change my tactic a bit. I think attempting from a dream or lucid dream may be an avenue worth trying but its pretty difficult as it seems most of my dreams do not have a level of clarity I can actually work with. I think most people would agree that you only really know when you have been dreaming when you wake up after but during the actual dream state you are very much not 'not there' and just asleep with something like a 1% or less degree of awareness or consciousness which is impossible to work with. I can have lucid dreams but even then they are not brilliant but the awareness is improved slightly but its really nothing you can actually do much with at all.

There is methods I have read where you repeat to yourself for the whole day every few mins or so 'awareness now' so you become so used to saying it that out of habit you end up saying it in your dream without even realizing or being aware of doing so and this hopefully or in theroy will increase the level of awareness in a dream/lucid dream and you are meant to repeat it until it gets better each time.

Is the above method anything anyone here has tried? I am hoping there might be some promise here as long as you have the 'awareness now' drummed into your head long enough. This work work better on a weekend as you would have less things on your mind such as work and other commitments.