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Now, when comes to creating a guide (book) it is best to come from the author's own experiences, rather than gathered info from different sources and putting things together according to own logic.

It happens everywhere on the planet and it is everywhere the same. One of my greatest teachers keeps on saying that everyone who is repeating/teaching something he or she has read or heard is lying. you can only tell the truth if you have experienced what you are talking about and then you can share your own experience and help others with it.

I have dealt with a deep level of deception and spiritual deception then getting out of that almost all on my own, so therefore I can help others with spiritual deception and getting a mind of their own to help them think objectively and independently about spiritual matters. My compass was self evident truth and my feedback was from objective reality. And the catalyst was my health condition.

Edit Besides it could be argued that doctors don't have to experience what the patient is suffering from to help them. If doctors were afflicted with all the same health conditions that they would treat, we would have no doctors. Their training is mostly done at the psychological, intellectual level too.

Thanks for chiming in.

[the Pulse started to be like a pithole of beliefs.]

Plasma, did you learn something over the years being here? I mean you don't "need" to, not because of that. Everybody is learning something.

Take it a little bit seriously, before Xanth boils up his head lol. You just need to silence your mind to let yourself to concentrate on other things. Focus of attention. Intelligence fails with over-analyzing things at one point so just try it at the being level. I know some people with this too much ego and intelligence and they are hopeless Maybe it comes from fear of the unknown, it depends on the person.

I try to analyze things too and it is many times a big block. And other times it reveals the problem. It depends on the case.

I'm only just observing the Pulse since a long while because of these pointless chats and dramas which people tend to write out, sharing their beliefs instead of learning more or opening up. Those fricking beliefs all the time, I wonder if anybody learns a thing that way. Literally, in the last years the Pulse started to be like a pithole of beliefs. It was that back then. I guess it all faded away when Frank and some others went away. I mean since that time, what is left is the information which anybody can extract from the forums. And the most are so lazy to do it. The other part is your own experiences, experiments and anything around.

No debate here. But in my opinion building from beliefs won't give knowledge. Then go and believe in a religion! We should learn and educate ourselves. I know that some people will be hurt but I don't care Respect for the few exceptions.

Before I came to the astral pulse I believed I was deserving of eternal hell. I believed that I was a sinner. It was really bad. I suffered so much because of it. Szaxx knows this, Me and him talked in private messages for months. We talked extensively about my fear of hell. And he really helped me, and I trusted him because he had an experience of going to the bad lands himself. And I really changed my outlook in life. Before I felt trapped by my own beliefs, and my health condition. But I sought after the truth and I found a good piece of that here at the pulse. I actually changed my whole belief structure by what people had to share here. I mean you have no idea how bad I had it. My parents taught us children crazy things. Such as going to college is wrong, and worldly because it's the attainment of worldly knowledge to gain material success. And that is just the tip of the iceberg. Most all of my spiritual growth has been through beliefs, intellect, and ideology. But I have meditated a lot in my past too. So don't think I have no experience with meditation. So I freed myself, so much just working with beliefs, ideas, and intellect.

Also the thing is that I'm not like most people when it comes to the intellect and spirituality. I actually believe that we can figure life and spirituality out in this day and age, well to an extent. I view it like a giant puzzle, and I love it. I believe in this day and age with all the spiritual material out there, it's possible to grow spiritually through the intellect. At the same time, I realize that many people can't do what I do. It's a special niche that I'm good at.

Also I didn't use the word thoughts in our facebook conversation but I was talking about "imagination" and "visualization," which is thoughts.

Dude... my god... first, we never spoke about controlling your thoughts, at all.
and... secondly... *sigh*... never mind.  You really do only hear what you want to hear. 

The only real thing I told you is that YOU THINK TOO MUCH. 
Just STOP EVERYTHING you're doing... you can't even help yourself and you're wanting to write a book on matters of spirituality?!
Forget about writing books dude.  Just MEDITATE.

You're not going to grasp ANYTHING by over analyzing this stuff.  Less is more.

And please, if you're actually going to quote me... QUOTE ME... don't paraphrase.  >_<

You said "And stop thinking you have control over ANYTHING."

It all starts in the mind anyway so yes if I can't control "ANYTHING" that includes thoughts.

On a side note, on some level I believe I'm a very systematic, analytical thinker by the way. So much so that I'm working on writing several books, 2-3 of which will be about spirituality. So your replies will give me food for thought in at least one of my books.

I recently had a conversation with Xanth on facebook and he said we can't control. (Probably thought it was an illusion or something.) But then I promptly asked the question - well do we have free will? He wasn't sure and felt it was a loaded question. But perhaps some of you can have thoughts on this. It's an interesting question because I've heard from meditators and astral projectors often in the past things like all we can do is let go. And control is just an illusion. While many also believe in some form of free will.

When talking about controlling our thinking, the question of free will, and taking control of our destiny comes to mind. I also get the sense from meditators and from astral projectors that it doesn't matter if we can control our thoughts and our destiny because we are all going to the same place in the end anyway, which I disagree with.

But I'd be curious what your thoughts are.

Sorry for the late reply, I've been busy driving Lyft trying to catch up.

Great responses from everyone. Funny I asked before about a hierarchy here at astral pulse before and the main response was that there was no hierarchy in the NP, but I thought that was one. And you's just clarified that there was a hierarchy of some sort.

Lumaza, I'm thinking about getting James Schwartz book "One Voice, Sacred Wisdom: Revealing Answers to Some of Life's Greatest Mysteries from Your Guides, Spirits and Angels"

Thanks everyone for chiming in.

Sorry for the late reply.

So you are driven by the belief you reap what you sow in a more obvious manner. Dont abort if you wish not to be aborted type of 'karma'. I personally it is not as systematic as this. You could perhaps be able to work on this beleif, find a more non restricting belief that allows you to be more fluid without the worry of the repercussions generally speaking.

Yeah so as it turns out mentoring children that don't have a mom or dad is a great way to address many of these negative karmas at least indirectly. So I agree with you that supporting let's say anti-violence charity is probably not the best way to tackle violence. The best way to tackle abortion, anger, war, violence, gangs, mental illness, bullying is probably just by mentoring children. Taking time out to help them and show them that someone cares, and there is a path to success. Because an ounce of prevention equals a lb of cure.

Now, you want a certain life after this and have the idea that in order to achieve it x and y must be done. That's fair. But pointing out the fact that experiences keep repeating until 'learned' means there is a way to go about it in order for it to not repeat. And it really is simple as knowing what energy you act out of (which is strongly dictated by beleifs, not always).

You can geniunely want to help someone, but if ALSO you help out of fear that repercussions will be met, etc. then THAT is something you need to learn to fix. Because if you go this whole life trying to live for a future that you are uncertain of, guess what might come back in your next time?

Yeah I do admit that it is coming from a place of fear to some degree on some level. But like I said earlier I think as time goes by while let's say mentoring children that I will grow and change that and turn it into a love based intention. As you may know that "in order to become someone you wish to be, you must act in a somewhat fraudulent manner at first." Otherwise known as "fake it until you make it." So that would be the goal. It's a form of faith really. It's going out on a limb mentally and building a new road into uncharted territory to help others. That may seem scary at first, but then once the road is built many can pass and use it in safety.

And im trying to just talk to you with your own rules. Perhaps you change to where it overcomes this? who knows. Hope for the best though. And if i have any holes, i would like to know.

Yes one possible hole is that we are all evolving forward here on earth as a collective. Which means, sure I and many others might be acting out of fear on some level but we will eventually overcome if we endure until the end, because science and spirituality will eventually merge here. So just because most of society runs off of fear that is fine as long as society is also productive enough to eventually create the science of spirituality in the end. And as far as I can tell this will start happening in about 2050 if my predictions are correct.

It's great this has been your main desire, because it can set you up to learn so much things and lessons ironically.

Yes I am learning more and more about my and others beliefs and thoughts in this post.

Up above where I said you only need live, I meant that but what I meant was live as 'you' see fit. If you see fit to save the world, enrich other people's lives, take care of animals, whatever, just do it. Living does not mean ignoring anything. If you feel you need to do the things you stated to improve your karma, do it. There is no one judging you but you.

Everyone has different needs in this physical reality, for some that need IS to be the victim or the one who can ignore the suffering of others. Imagine being so empathic to other people's pain that you can not under any circumstance live a meaningful life. What would the lesson for you be in this frame? I would think that person's lesson would be to learn how to shut off those over reaching emotions and learn how to be happy with and for themselves. That is not an easy lesson.

I don't see ego as being an issue although I know many do. Seems it's a natural and healthy part of existence. Balancing the ego however is something we need all strive for.
Imagine a world without suffering. Sounds nice but is it? If you had only ever known peace, love and exceptional good health how in the world would you relate to people elsewhere who had not?

Agreed

Yes, it will help of course, but this is just one small aspect of your learning. Have you learned everything else? can you even comprehend what "everything else" means. Not only from a human perspective in the 21st century, but from many life forms, many characters in many lower dimensions, time periods, planets, etc. Do you see how vast the whole thing is.

OK I see what your saying now. Makes sense and I agree with you in that regard. Look I don't think that me doing a few good works in this one reincarnation is going to get me a space age reincarnation next time. But man I wanna pass as many tests as I can now.

Doing all of those things is a noble cause. Doing them because they are or you see them as the right thing to do shows growth. Doing them so you won't have to do them/relive them again is more "egocentric".

The goal would be to start out doing them to get a better reincarnation, but then as time goes by I would move that intention toward genuinely wanting to help the world and people.

I say it that way because I do remember you's saying months ago that intention is everything. And that I shouldn't expect a better reincarnation too. So I do put into practice the things yous tell me.

Tests need to be created for us, so we can solve them for learning. Therefore unfortunate events are set up for us to solve them and learn.

OK then wouldn't my method of helping others end suffering be a valid path for me to get get a better incarnation next time because I passed the tests of identifying valid forms of suffering and I helped end it? I don't see what the issue is really.

I even remember Tom Campbell saying something like when you go for your next reincarnation they will look at your life and see where you need help. Like oh look you cut this guy off in traffic and so now you have to work on patience. Or something like that. As if there are very specific things that we must learn to overcome.

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Just the opposite, but the "you" your character "Plasma" perceives at this time is not the entire "you". Until you comprehend that, you will not be able to understand us.

For example, did Plasma decide in what family to be born. No, that was the decision of the entire "you". Plasma is just a fragment of it that currently sees only through the channel of this particular character. What the entire "you" needs overall for learning and expansion, Plasma does not know. And that is for a purpose that is beneficial for learning on a smaller scale, one lesson at a time. In one life you may seem wise as that character, but in another that wisdom will be irrelevant and it will be blocked from remembrance, again for beneficial purposes, because the new character will have to learn entirely new lines of wisdom from all kinds of perspectives.

As far as creating our reality, absolutely we do, but that as well is not so black and white as just thinking what we want and receiving it. The entire "you" has a saying, that your small "you" in character will not understand. Certain main events are already preset before birth for our characters to experience. We also have subconscious fears that manifest and we don't even realize where these evens came from. So, again...complicated.

Experiences will take you to that understanding one day either in this life or another.

OK so my question is, what is your response to the suffering that goes on in this world? And how do you manifest a future reality where suffering is minimal and people are more evolved?

Plasma, I am curious, do you enjoy the challenge of a good argument?

I honestly like a good challenge to my ideas and beliefs so that I can gauge how grounded my thoughts are in reality or if there is room for improvement. I don't think like many people. I actually can change my beliefs if someone provides a good argument.

You show up here about once every 3 or 4 months now. You then ask a question and when people answer it, you rebel/argue against their answers!  

Yeah because like I said I want to see if they can poke holes in my idea. I wanna see how strong their arguments are.

From what I have been shown and what has come to be my truth, you are talking through "ego". Not that you are being egotistical. But, our true consciousness does not "think" the way our physical selves do. Things like positive and negatives, good and evil, even hot or cold don't equate to the higher self, There just "is". There is just "experiences". That is what this whole physical Earth school does for us.
Our physical forms/limbs/senses give us the opportunity to experience things that our consciousness alone can't.

Yeah this might be my ego talking but in my experience ego can teach us a lot of things. Arguing and debate teaches a lot of things if ones underlying intention is to get down to the bottom of the truth. Which mine is.

The good, the bad, the ugly. Those are all necessary. That's the way we learn what we came to learn. I feel it's the way that we handle and confront those experiences that shows how we are evolving as a "being".

So how did you confront and handle the common pitfalls and suffering that is in the world today?

That's what Lightbeam and Nameless have been attempting to explain to you. It's hard for you to understand this, I know it is. It was hard for me as well. But somewhere along the line I finally "got it". I could finally understand what was being portrayed to me. When I finally understood it, I was taken back for about a month. It was like I was in shock.

Well maybe I'll come to that realization too.

Nameless and LightBeam

I'm assuming that you's don't believe that we reap what we sow then. And we don't create our own reality either. And you may not believe in free will either.

I think the higher evolved we are the more specific the lessons become. As a relatively highly evolved being myself I think that we are to find specific things that we must do to either help end suffering in the world, or add value to others lives. I made a list of the top things that I think I should support.

Here they are.
1. Prevent Gangs By Mentoring Children - So that I don't end up in a fatherless house.
2. Support pro-life in Abortion - So that I'm not aborted.
3. Prevent Mental Illness - So that I don't have to reincarnate with people with a family history of mental illness.
4. Prevent Anger/War/Violence - So that I won't have to reincarnate with a father that has gone to war.
5. Prevent Bullying - So that I won't have a school where bullying is common.
6. Support Doctor Assisted Suicide - So that I won't have to deal with a undignified death.
7. Help people discover their life purpose. - So that I will be given a good path a reincarnation full of opportunities.
Etc etc

Why? Because we reap what we sow. Don't we?

It seems to me that what your saying is that we are suppose to be on autopilot and just experience.

You's seem to be taking the very long route to growth. In my experience it's people that love others with deep passion by ending suffering in this world and add meaning to  others lives that get on the fast track to salvation. The more responsibility for others we take on in this life the more we are given in our next life. The more opportunity we offer others the more opportunity we get in the future.

You as this character can't realize what the higher aspect of the spirit needs for further learning.

By that logic we I'd aswell give up then. There would be purpose in growing spiritually if we can't find our souls purpose. Right?

Am I missing anything?

I mean there has to be a way to learn and grow spiritually to find our souls purpose. I think it's that we are to help end suffering in the world and add meaning to peoples lives. That is a universal truth of all good religions.

As long as I follow those guidelines I can't see why I can't help guide my own destiny.

I don't mean to come across as a know it all, I just want to see if anyone can poke a whole in my idea of growth.

So I got this idea. It's that in order to get the type of next reincarnation you want you must support for the things you want in your current incarnation to have them in your next reincarnation. And you must work against the things you don't want in this incarnation so you don't have to deal with it in your next reincarnation. Is that true? I mean I can't see how it would be any other way really. We reap what we sow. Am I missing anything? Thanks.

Thanks to everyone that chimed in. It's a lot of food for thought for me.

I watched the Bob Lazar documentary. Good stuff actually and he comes across as very believable.

The question would be less could Columbus make a copy and more would he know what to do with it if he did.

good I'm glad somebody got something out of those videos I posted.

On Bob Lazar , I dont know what to think . With out him most people would not know about area 51 .  He said he had all kind of phy. deg.s . Stanton Friedman asked him some high school stuff and he could not answer him .  I have been as far as Las Vegas NV , but as far north as area 51 .  The closest town is Rachel . As I understand it the meeting place for this event, if any thing does happen . I can see small gift shops selling out quickly .  This may turn in to a buring man kind of event rather a storm down the fence and get killed event .  Some claim there astral guards at area 51. I think we have discussed them hear .  On reverse eng. , lets say you gave Columbus a nuc. aircraft carrier, lots of money and time . Do you think he could make a copy ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lazar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanton_T._Friedman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel%2C_Nevada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Man

No as a matter of fact it was said in one of the interviews that they put away the technology for years until there is some kind of breakthrough in the real world. Then they cover it back up, and put it away. Also Bob Lazar worked at S4 miles away from area 51.

I think it's high time that they let us know about this whole thing. They won't do it though because they are trying to keep their alien reverse technology a secret.

On a side note the story of Bob Lazar is very compelling.

Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers - Trailer
https://youtu.be/gZg7XkaiRec

Bob Lazar Full Interview Larry King and filmmaker Jeremy Corbell
https://youtu.be/q1RYU8iKLrA

Joe Rogan Experience #1315 - Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell
https://youtu.be/BEWz4SXfyCQ

I'm going. We've been in the dark too long. Just kidding. But if I lived next to there I would go, but chicken out at the last second.

Nothing.  Ultimately, there's no way to know for certain... just as you can't know for certain that anyone other than yourself is "real".

Also, you're making the assumption that we "continue" on in this physical-type state.
Nothing in my experience has ever led me to believe that we continue on in this same manner.

Yeah I'm not sure whether to be happy or sad that this is the case.

To KNOW for sure?

No.

How's that for concise? 

Unfortunately that's what I thought you'd say.

What can I do to test it to increase the probability that I know that he's not just a projection of my own mind?

Before I get to this let me say that this post is connected with this previous thread.

Brother Just Died Of Alcoholism, Is He OK?
www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/brother_just_died_of_alcoholism_is_he_ok-t47735.0.html;msg372034#msg372034

The report came in my brother died of alcohol/ethanol poisoning. Only 6 people a day die that way, it's really unfortunate that this happened. The good news is that I think he died relatively painlessly. Meaning it wasn't like he was wasting away in a hospice for years on end.

I don't want inflated answers I just want the truth. I know you's say that in the afterlife/astral there is no way of knowing if the person your talking to is a projection of the subconscious or someone real. So is there any way I can KNOW that I have found my brother after I died? Is there anyway I can contact him?

Thanks.