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I see that it does not work for you.   I have ap this way many times and it works for me.   Provided you are relaxed you will ap.   If you are not relaxed enough you will not ap.

Make sure your mind stays relaxed and wait to ap.   It will happen by itself without having to do anything. 

I have read some of the book.  I will continue reading it.   It is a very good book.   If you follow his instructions you will have a good chance to succeed.  No book will get you to ap.   It depends on how much you practice and follow his instructions.   It is worthwhile reading.   

Thanks for that Subtle Traveler.   You gave me a good idea.   There is a beautiful park close by.   I am going to imagine the park and add things to it as you suggested.   I tried to do it yesterday but I must have been tired.   I could not concentrate.   I could not think of anything.   I kept forgetting to think.   This morning I managed to ap.   I am happy about that because I have not ap for a while.   I keep falling asleep.   I know I have to concentrate and not to miss my ap signs.   The ap signs can be very slight so it is easy to miss it.   I do not know about everyone else but when I ap it is like what we see here in this world.   I see the buildings, the sky, grass etc.   I never see anything evil or any monsters.  There is no fighting or anything awful.   In the astral people were doing things just like here.   They like to have a drink and the streets are sometimes busy.   I noticed that my ap experience was a bit silly this morning so I think it turned into a bit of a dream.   I have to try to improve that.   

Hi all, just an update on how I am going.   Approximately 5.30 pm I was doing deep breathing and relaxing myself.   I keep trying to imagine myself at some place or doing an activity.   I do it for a while but unfortunately I get bored.   Perhaps in time I will overcome that problem.   I am sure I found meditation boring once but I am very used to it now.   Anyway, after a while I heard an occasional snoring sound.   My mouth is always closed.   What usually happens is a short time later without any warning I instantly ap somewhere.   This is what happened.   I was driving a car.   I could see the road.   I could drive straight ahead or curve to the right.   I remember that spot when I drive to my parents place.   I got tense for some reason as I curved to the right and I snapped back into my body.    I will keep practicing and I will never give up.   
I want to start making an effort to get up out of bed early in the mornings instead of making excuses for myself.   It is either too late or too early.   If I make more of an effort it will increase my chances to ap.   

This is what the drug does:

From Wikipdia:
5-MeO-DMT (5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine) is a psychedelic of the tryptamine class.

From Thefreedictiony.com:
Psychedelic:
1. Of, characterized by, or generating hallucinations, distortions of perception, altered states of awareness, and occasionally states resembling psychosis.
2. Suggestive or evocative of an altered or hallucinatory state of perception: psychedelic patterns; psychedelic music.
n.A drug, such as LSD or mescaline, that produces psychedelic effects.

Once you wreck your brain you cannot fix it.

You will become additive to the drug.   Not because the drug itself is addictive as you say.   You will become dependent on taking the drug if ap works.   If ap works you will want to take the drug again and again.   You have obviously made up your mind that you will take the drug and we cannot persuade you not to do it.   It is your choice, your life.   

Lumaza said the magic words.   It takes patience, practice, perseverance and a focused will and intent to succeed.  Lumaza advice was excellent.   He has great ideas to ap.   

I agree that it is good to do things to make ap easier, like you said training wheels.   If it involves using drugs it is a bad idea.   It messes up your brain.   I would imagine it would mess up your ap experiences as well.   You can become addicted to using drugs.   I am very grateful that I do not use drugs.   Life is hard enough without adding another problem.   There are a number of other ways to get training wheels without taking drugs.     

Hi all, I lied on the floor late in the afternoon on a thin mattress.    After a while you start to get sore.   Your back starts aching and then I gave up.   Before I went to bed I lied on the floor again.   I ignored the soreness and just got on with meditating and relaxing myself.   I was not happy as I thought I fell asleep.   It was only brief.   A little while later I thought I think I did ap.   I remember feeling myself moving.   I woke up because I thought I fell asleep.   I will try again but I am not going to lie on the floor in the afternoon.  I think it gets too much doing that twice.   Instead I am going to relax on my back on a comfortable bed.   I am close to ap a number of times.   My problem is I get bored.   I have to get passed this.   I have another idea which I will try.   I know I still have to persevere with it. 

Hi all, I am often close to ap but I am not succeeding.   I drift off and fall asleep.   I am now going to lie on a thin mattress on the floor as it is not very comfortable.   I am also going to sit on a chair.   I will let you know how it goes.

You sound angry and depressed.    I agree life has lots of hassles but it can be rewarding as well.   I get satisfaction in helping other people.    I appreciate the things that I have.   I do not mean material things.   I mean things like my family and the things I enjoy doing.  I enjoy the beautiful sunny days.   It is good to make the most of this life as it goes quickly.

I found on ap forums people are determined to think what they want and nothing will change their mind.   They cannot be helped.   They have to work it out for themselves or in some cases they never work it out.   They continue to believe in what they want.   I am not religious but I believe in the saying, God helps those who help themselves. 

I often hear myself snore.   It only happens when I am making an effort to ap.   I have ap from it but not lately.   Thanks to this forum I realise it is because I am impatient.   I am working on fixing the problem.   When I hear myself snore, it is only one snore I hear, then a minute, two or three minutes later another snore.   It can go on like that for a little while.   It is not constant snoring.   If I am not prepared for it I fall asleep.   Tonight it will be different.   I will imagine jumping on a trampoline.    It is a great technique.   I have ap using that technique before.   The only difference was when I felt like I was jumping on a trampoline I was jumping extremely high up and down.    Not like normal jumping on a trampoline.   It was fun.   I might get a bit bored if the technique takes a while for it to work so if that happens I will imagine that I am in the forest.   If I get bored with the forest I will go back to imagining I am jumping on the trampoline again.   I will keep swapping between the two methods.   

Thank you Lumaza.   Your idea will help me a lot.   I can ap quicker but as I said I was too impatient.   For now on, I am going to do my usual routine and that is to relax myself for a while.    Then I am going to imagine I am somewhere at some place.   I will stick at it as long as it takes to succeed. 

That is great Lumaza you do not get bored.   I wish I found it exciting.   I enjoy meditating and relaxing.   I can do that for a long time.   I am nearly there.   When I get more used to doing techniques I am sure I will not find it boring.   I think I developed this problem because I used to ap instantly when I do an ap technique.   Now it takes time.   Sometimes it does not take long but my boredom gets in the way.   I have to learn to be patient.   I will overcome this problem but it may take some time.   

Thank you ThaomasOfGrey.    You made me reaslise that it is boredom.   I now realise any technique I do I will get bored.    I will do what you suggest.   I will convince myself that this is exciting and I will continue to do it.   I have convinced myself with other things so I can convince myself with this to. 

 Lumaza that was a great read.  Thank you for that. 

Thank you both for your replies.    They were very helpful.

That sounds great LightBeam.   You are lucky to have good memories of that place and you are able to imagine it.    I think ap is a lot easier when you enjoy imagining something.    Did you sometimes ap at that place?

I have an idea.   I will think of a place and imagine being there.   I will let you know how it goes.

Hi all, what ap techniques do you enjoy doing for at least 20 minutes? I can often hear myself snoring and that means I am close to ap. I do an ap technique such as I imagine myself rising up, going up a ladder or rope but I get bored quickly. I cannot seem to keep doing it for long so I give up and end up falling asleep. I need a technique that will interest me for at least 20 minutes. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Try and let it happen by itself and you will likely ap.   You must keep your mind relaxed and ignore the sensations.   That could be the reason why the sensation ends quickly.

I have not heard of anyone succeeding with this book but it does not matter.   The important thing is if you get something out of the book that will help you.   I read ap books for fun.   If I learn something from it then that is great.   If the book helps you to get motivated then it is worthwhile.   In my opinion the only way to get good at ap is to practice.   The books will not help you to ap only practice will.   

Force it, you have nothing to loose.   If it works it works, if it does not work, it does not work.   You are not aping so take a risk and see what happens.    When I force it I get out of my body.   

That reminds me of the story about a disciple who was asking his Master questions at the village fountain. He asked, "What do I need to do to attain Liberation?" and the Master immediately grabbed him and plunged his head under the water. Soon the disciple was struggling and then thrashing violently trying to break loose. Just as he was about to pass out the Master yanked him out and he sucked in a huge breath of air. The Disciple yelled, "What did you do that for?!"
The Master replied, "When you desire Liberation as much as you wanted a breath of air just now, you will be able to begin".

I am thinking the "noose" analogy was meant to instill a sense of urgency.

I have been among followers and members of quite a few cults over the decades. One thing I have noticed is that, as a group, many cult followers tend to make more progress in the early stages of learning than individuals who simply do a little meditation and a lot of reading. A couple exceptions would be the HareKrishnas and the Moonies, who I generally found to be rather clueless and often zombie-like.

I am curious what your sense of the level of knowledge and/or attainment of these followers was... ?....

I am not sure exactly what you are asking.   I think a lot of people cannot think for themselves.   They have to have someone to think for them.   It does not matter how silly it is they still have to follow a leader.    At least I think for myself.    I work things out.   My husband would say you should have realised in the beginning.   As I said I wanted to go for fun and to meet people with similar interests.