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maybe but i don't agree.  that would go against what they were ordained for.  getting sidetracked on anything is what they aer trying not to do by moving to a monastery and cutting off all ties.

i did not put that smiley face at the end of that last post and i don't know how it got there.

well i like to argue.  maybe you could start a contraversial thread so i can give my brain a stretch.  you could even just make something up or take a standpoint on something that you don't necessarily agree w/.  i do it all the time.

i'm not sure how we would be able to compare it to the upcoming book.  it's still coming up.  the stimulation in the new is obviously for people who are just starting out.  the actual feeling of the energy moving through you is something that i'll use for the rest of my life.  i'm not sure how you could have a complete anything when dealing w/ energy work.  everyone is different and is going to have different results.  if you are asking for an opinion, it's kick-butt.

that's a good picture.  i'm assuming it looks like that w/out the camera as well.  is that right?  have you shown anyone else that, in person?

http://www.astralpulse.com/downloads/downloads.htm

i may have posted something about it a while back when i first saw it.  i don't remember the name of the post though.  it was an ok movie from what i remember.  it lost me in a lot of places.  very fast talking about dense issues.  too fast for me to understand completely, even the second and third times i watched it.  i'd actually like to find someone that understood the entire thing the first time around to explain  a few things.

i find that it's easier for me to breathe on my stomach but my neck doesn't get as comfortable.   i've never had a projection from my stomach but it feels as though it would be very easy if i could get relaxed enough.

sublime, what would the difference be between a spontaneous projection and  a conscious one?   i thought if you realized that you were out, you were conscious.

you can't offer that if you haven't been successful at levitation yourself.   this is just another excuse that could very easily be remedied.   i'm sure the tape has a good length on it.  

this will be my last post on this topic unless i am congratulating auraseer for being successful.   i don't want to be the guy to come up w/ an answer for every excuse/problem.

it may be a good idea to re-read your posts after you have written it and put yourself in an opposing position.   it may save some time.

aura, may you do well.

the other explanation that you are referring to doesn't really apply to this situation.  that suggestion would explain why we wouldn't be able to see it if you actualy did it.  it wouldn't explain why you yourself wouldn't actually be able to do it.  that explanation deals w/ the observer affecting the phenomena.  there weren't any observers affecting you levitating on the scale.  you just said it didn't work.  for example, let's say i am very firm in believing that levitation is impossible.  you levitate in front of me but i won't believe it, no matter what you do because of my hard headedness.  if you say the needle didn't move then you didn't levitate.  

there is a very good chance that you actualy believe you have levitated before when you have not.  i suggest that every time you levitate from now on that it be on a weight scale.  there will be no fooling yourself then.  if you can't do it there and the paper doesn't work either, it would be safe to start doubting your ability at the present moment.  that doesn't mean to start doubting that it's possible.  

auraseer, if you really can levitate and really want to show the people here on the forum like you seem to, i can come up w/ a hundred different ways to help you show it.  those ideas w/ the paper and the scale are just what to come to my mind first.  if you find reasons why they won't work, i'll find ways around that to help it work.   it seems so far that there have been nothing but excuses.  i could be wrong about that but the way things have been going lately it doesn't seem likely.   if you need anymore suggestions let me know.  

it seems you have missed the three or four posts that suggest placing the paper on top of a book or something else flat first.  you don't need your kitchen floor.  i believe you wrote something about the paper crumpling beneath your feet on the carpet.  i'm sure you can find a way to make this work if you really want to.

don't pull the paper under your feet.  pull it out from under your feet. stand on it first, then try and pull it out while you are levitating.

auraseer, take camera.  get on a weight scale.  zoom in on the readout but make sure your feet are still in view.  levitate and make the dial return to zero.

hearing voices while you are meditating can be very shocking at first, enough to take you right out of your meditation.  if these voices are friendly it will only take some time to get comfortable w/ what happened before you can reach that same stage again.  not being used to this happening is what's taking you out of your meditation and not the actual voice you are hearing.  as soon as you get comfortable w/ it you will look forward to hearing them or him.  the longer you ponder over what happened the more you will be expecting it and the more ready you will be.  

unfriendly voices take a little more time to get comfortable w/.  even thought they can be very scary, eventually you will find that they can't harm you and you can start to ignore them.  eventually they will go away.

i've had some similar experiences and the  responses i got back from here suggested that i was just waking up into part astral/dream environment.  no one really knows what's going on when this happens.  i was never hurt in any way but i have been pulled on at least ten times.  it seems whoever is doing it has a feet fettish because they won't leave mine alone.  next time it happens try to stay awake as long as possible and just remain calm.  stay there for as long as you can and see what happens.

i've found that whole milk tastes damn good around the sell by date.  the day after is pretty good too.

personally, i don't see the problem w/ using something external to keep your mind quiter.  i've read somewhere that you shouldn't use it all of the time to help you oobe because you can become dependant on that for exiting all of the time.  i say if it helps you to get out then use it.  if you become dependant on it, and you are ok w/ it, that seems fine to me.  if you are serious about being being able to project consciously, consistently, buying astral dynamics is the way to go.  that book is the oobe bible.

i don't know too much about them but from what i gather they are sounds that help you achieve different states of consciousness.  there was a pretty good thread about them a while back.  a search on bwgen or something like that would prove to be helpful.  i do remember reading that it helped many people succeed in at least having some type of experience that they've never had.  they sound interesting enough and i plan on using them sometimes in the future, after i've been successful myself.

i'm not very computer litereate but i can't get that one to work either.

i remember reading something that said the mirrors were used to give the picture a three d effect.

i have had some brief encounters w/ beings that may have been guides.  unfortunately they were so brief that i couldn't find out.  there isn't any special way to ask that i'm aware of.  you should just be able to ask aloud or to yourself.  intent alone should be enough to show that you want contact.  i remember reading somewhere that the best time to ask is right before you go to sleep.  

i would think that if you were a regular meditator that would also help.  that trance state seems like an easy enough place to be contacted, if you can reach it.  

if you have asked and have not received any contact, it would make sense to me that the time isn't right.  after all, it is your guide that's not showing or making contact so i would think that there is  a reason.  i don't have too much experience w/ these type of experiences and i'm sure some of the other  members here will have soemthing else to add.

i watched the levitation video.  i am unable to notice any uprise.  i watched it twice to be sure but i can't say for sure that i saw anything noticable.  why don't you try that same shot, w/ that paper idea that i suggested earlier in the thread.  it shouldn't be a problem for you because the paper is so thin.  also, you wouldn't have to worry about how clear the picture was because that would show enough.

auraseer these files won't open.  it says we can't open them because they are on a tripod something or other.  

heph, have you read about the dweller?  robert mentions him in ad and i've had the pleasure of running into him once.  it was funny at the time because i had already read about him.  he was also telling me i was going to die.  i may have said something nice to him at the time like 'i like you' or something like that.  if i hadn't read at beforehand, i probably would have been scared.  i used to think about him when i was attemping to project because i wanted to get a better look at him but he hasn't showed since the first time.

when you say that you floated up off of your bed do you mean your physical body actually levitated?  could you see the bed beneath you as it was happening?  not saying levitation is impossible but by accident that would be one hell of a coincidence.  there is a very good chance that you projected.

however, if you fell back asleep after the event took place then there is also a very good chance that you were dreaming and had a false awakening.  a false awakening is when you wake up in your dream to an environment identical to the one in which you are sleeping.  the result is you believing that you are awake and mistaking the dream for the physical reality.  they can sometimes happen after a lucid dream or after you 'wake up' and realize you were just dreaming.

for the longest time i thought that your astral body wasn't anything like your physical body and that all of the astral dimensions were mostly transparent.  this may be due to the back cover of ad where it looks like the projectable double is ghostlike.  

i remember robert suggesting that it wouldn't be desirable to be that close to your physical body while out because it would start to pull you back in.  he suggest moving away from your body immediately after projecting.

if you were strong willed enough to try and touch your physical body while out, and could maintain your presence in the astral, you may actually feel exactly what you expected to feel due to how big a part your mind can influence the reality of the astral.