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#276
Friends,

One of my OBEs before coming to awareness of astral projection was indeed brought on from too many beers. Make a long story short, thought I was getting up, going to the restroom, all during the OBE. When I had returned, still in the drunken state, I got up and did my business on the floor in the basement where I was sleeping. Yes, there was a mess to clean up the next day, thankfull my brother, at that time knew what was going on and performed the clean-up.

I can remember this event as if it was a week ago, but this took place 25 years past. Again, re-iterarating that the alcohol is a drug, just like Nyquil is and it will not advance you to a clear conscious OBE.

One doesn't have to give up drinking all together, but lessen the intake and social aspect of it. Over-all you will benefit greater and feel accomplishment w/o a crutch to induce this state of awareness.

Tvos
#277
Psychosoma,

Amount of sleep (night before), specific days, time of the experience are very important. I honestly wish that I tracked my stats when I was younger, but didn't. Specific foods don't matter on projecting, I have done a three year study on food - latte's don't help..:) I can definitely tell you alcohol will reduce energy, confuse, and weaken the drive. Can one project and drink socially, yes... but the level and degree of the experiences won't be up to par.

If you go to bed late and crash to sleep, the attemps at projecting will be at odds of failure. Try going to bed earlier and when you reach the morning hours - that is when success will prevail. Because you are starting to energize, surface from deep rem towards the borderline of awake/sleep trance state.

Also, w/o intent and passion for what you want to achieve will not yield results. Focus on one basic and realistic goal what you want to accomplish. For starters, the first time I projected, it was because I wanted to keep reading this OBE book. I had enough drive, desire, and passion to read this book and it did the trick! 

Patience and not giving up!

Tvos





#278
Psychosoma,

Have you visited my web site www.invisiblelight.us ? If not, all my data, stats, video, journals, radio interviews are available for download (free).

Pay attention closely to the spreadsheet that I created. Reason why I say this, it is my daily log and keeps me grounded, focused on projecting among my web site and helping others. There is a lot more to projecting then "just leaving the body" and I am talking about spirituality, helping others, faith, love, etc.. and booze doesn't yield results, especially what I have been blessed with and experienced!

Feel free to contact me!

Tvos

#279
Psychosoma,

Make a long story short - I was a social drinker for about 10 years. Roughly, two years ago
I completely stopp'd drinking to lose weight, health, and primarly to feel better about myself.

Within 3-4months later, my energy, interest with projecting starting to flourish. Now, I am able to
project 2-3 a week w/o fail and I thank God for showing me the difference between the two. Now, if
I could stop drinking Starbucks frapacino's..:)

I did have a difficult time of projecting while drinking socially. The energy just wasn't there period and drive. You can still project if you drink, smoke pot, take lsd etc.. but it does more harm than good.

The greater reward is being clear, conscious and projecting w/o being hindered by drugs!


Tvos




#280
Zorgblar,

Folks, I know that I am coming in on the tail end of this discussion, so my apologies!

Yes, I have seen the chord at different times during the obe. Couple of times seeing the chord
connecting to the physical. I also was able to touch and feel the chord itself. It reminded me a lot like a wrapped wire cable, the feel was rough in texture and sharp.

I have also seen the silver chord originate from other people that were sleeping. Normally, when I am OBE I will test the environment, look back at what I am seeing, to validate the scene doesn't change.

If the chord does break, we probably wouldn't be here talking. But I do expect there is more to the silver chord theory, especially when Near Death Experiences have not reported this during their experiences.

tvos


#281
astral projection is just a "word" which falls into the new age category.

if you review and educate yourself on eastern/western belief/religious systems. history of
out of body experience's are present in their texts.

so getting back to 'psychic powers' is a facade - everyone has the ability to
induce the obe, and some better than others. we are multidimensional beings
and there is nothing psychic about it.

tvos
#282
have a few thousand OBEs, you will every so often run up against these experiences.

its how we learn. yes, the spiritual / astral body is indestructable.

tvos
#283
To further elaborate and explain #2.

I have been shot, stabbed, torched and burned, fallen off buildings, electricuted, trapped in electrical wires, pinned between cars, choked, met up with dark evil entities, ran over by semi-truck, blasted by tornado winds....

Well, I am still here talking and perfectly fine. Only thing that really effects you during and after the OBE is the mental part. Why did this all happen? To prove that you do not die!

tvos
#284
Yesjoryyes,

If you really want to learn how to leave the body, exit and switch vibrations. Physical material objects, tapes, audio, programs can only take you so far or block the way as a mental crutch.

In the begining, I placed a pyramid above my third eye and meditating, stuck my head in a pot of water to see "egyptian hermetics", Focused on body positioning, foods, exercise, if I did right or wrong during the day. In all, it didn't lead no where. This is not to say or put down other ritual beliefs and practices.

It comes down to one thing "intent, patience and if your ready to show up everyday as if you are training for the olympics". There are no short-cuts, fast food reciepes for projecting!
To the deepest core of your intent, passion, desire and patience will shine success.

Tvos
#285
1. yes, you can travel faster then the speed of light.. it's called traveling at the speed of thought.

2. good question on the black hole, but i don't think nothing would happen except you would go into the hole, view the environment and return.

tvos
#286
AP Friends,

Last few years have been active with radio interviews - discussing OBEs.

I will be appearing on a few new shows this upcoming week and next. More welcome
to see the schedule for dates,times, web site, radio stations for these.

http://www.invisiblelight.us/news.htm

I want to give the opportunity to AP members here a chance to ask questions and I will submit them to the producers for the show which in return I will answer.

So if you want to know what is my favorite food that helps me project, or have I ever seen the aura, performed validations, what sort of experiments have I conducted. Please fire your questions away.

Thank You,

Tvos




#287
So what is your objective? to avoid all these things and try to project? Is it, that you think if you avoid these things, you will be able to project?

tvos
#288
how about chocolate pudding?

tvos
#289
Hello DH,

Long time no chat!

I appreciate the info. and it helps in this research and learning process. Not that I am a expert on religions of the world, but it definitely broadens my perception and presents a better understanding where these religious, faith, beliefs orginated. Not too mention, every culture has some sort of religious interpretation.

Sorry to hear about your late wife!

Tvos
#290
Stookie,

Started listening to a few audio books and I am getting that impression about faith, worship  varying from each tribe. Although, there are many commonalities among the Native American Indians of their beliefs in spirits, vision quests, dances, healing all compromising of nature.

Totally different from Christian/Jewish/Musalim (Eastern Beliefs) systems. Real interesting to understand their customs and background.

Tvos
#291
Ap Friends,

I have started to study Native American Religions and wonder if there is a bible for the NA people to follow? As in like the OT/NT bible of Jews and Christians, or the Holy Qur'an of the Islamic people.

Please advise.

Tvos
#292
Klaxen_2008,

I am more happy to help you with your request on the validity of the OBE and Physical planes. I am not sure
where you are in your progress. But when you start off on this to obtain the results you desire, there's ALOT
of work, patience, energy involved. Reading other people's experiences, tests, validations, is a great place to start, but if you really want bullet proof - go out and do the work!

I'll offer my .2 on your questions. Yes, I have had at different times been visted by Angels, Guides, assisting me into the higher spiritual planes. There were messages of what I needed to work on in the physical, along with guidence.

How do I know that this was not imagination. I have been out thousands of times, seen the different charistics in thought forms, true souls that have passed, entities, and spiritual beings - mostly how the interact, intent, judgement and conscious awareness.

I invite you to research the data on my web site so it can help you along with better understand.

Thank You,

Tvos
#293
anything in life requires time, patience, disciplen, and education. there's no fast food lines or short-cuts to projection... unless one decided to use those poisonous herbs...

tvos
#294
only way you will be able to successfully project is the following:

1. Intent, Hard Work, Focus, Patience, Commitment, Education

there are no magic pills!

tvos
#295
Don,

I like the idea about group meeting in second life and communication and I highly recommend people exploring SL. However, I think you will find drawbacks of restrictions like hardware and software capability, bugs, meeting times, and connection speed. I know when I messed with SL it was real buggy, slow, and the specs were high end requirements. Not that I don't have the latest technology but others might not.

So you have to ask the question "what is the real objective - video game play, or learn how to project?.

tvos
#296
Second life is cool and very addictive...

Don't want to be the dour one of the group, but comparing OBEing to second life simulation there isn't any. It's a great way to communicate, setup land, house, new method of group meetings. A lot of good can come from it. But the whole premise of it is getting on with the true source of projecting!


tvos
#297
Welcome to News and Media! / Re: Gas Station Ghost
January 01, 2008, 22:36:22
thats the point.

CNN released that yesterday which I stumbled across. Good deal on posting it earlier.

It's a interesting video - hard to say what it is.

tvos
#298
Welcome to News and Media! / Gas Station Ghost
January 01, 2008, 15:35:41
Ap Friends,

This is a interesting clip taken from a gas station capturing a ghost.

You be the judge!

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2007/11/14/lai.gas.ghost.woio?DPFPR=true

tvos
#299
gwciv,

Np.. glade to see someone taking my advice..:)

Its a lot of hard work and energy... even when your tired, lost, drained of everything - there's that miracle of energy that gives  you that gift to project...

keep up with the good work and you will go far!

tvos
#300
what about just meeting up in the astral.. wouldn't that be easier..:)

#1 I choose because of interaction and a lot can be achieved.

tvos