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being dependant upon holding your breath would be bad but if you're looking for a quick fix then holding your breath should get you to a light  trance state w/in about two minutes.  there was a post on here a while back about it . do a search and see what you come up w/.  

being able to get there w/out that would be ideal though.  also when you use the holdin gyour breath tek you don't have to be completely relaxed to enter the trance state which is counter productive.  you shouldn't be able to project from this state unless you are completely relaxed.  take your time and learn the correct way to do it.  looking for a quick way usually will do more harm than good, but this tek is pretty effective, even the first time you use it.

now that post is going to look silly when you get three stars.

if they were going to be loaned then would there be any problems morally from anyone if we could just send them over the net?  if i had them i would be willing to.  when i get them i will.

i'm not sure about the legality of this but believe it may be illegal, so obviously i'm joking about this entire post.  maybe we could jokingly upload them somewhere and jokingly tell only the people that actualy want them so we wouldn't have to worry about someone stumbling across it and jokingly put someone in jail.

but wouldn't it just be file sharing like imesh and the rest?

i don't drink either but have in the past a few times.  one of the times i happened to eat two bananas right before i started.  i ended up throwing up like i normally do if i drink about two hours later.  i was expecting the terrible bile stench but was pleasantly surprised to taste what tasted exactly like a banana julius coming out of my mouth.  it was damn good.  i tried to throw up some more.  

i've just cked to see that there are currently about six hundred some members here.  we're gonna have to be allowed to post a few different times if we really wanna finish this thread so...

9,994 bottles of beer on the wall
9,994 bottles of beer
take one down, pass it around
9,993 bottles of beer on the wall

i haven't finished the book but i don't recall reading anything like that.  i'll have to find it and finish.  the ball you make in your hand would no doubt be made from energy, so would you actually be giving it a 'fireball' instead of firing one at it?

hump instead.

the site is giving me an error message.  i'd like to ck it out so if you find it post it back up here.  i don't know how much i agree w/ the machine cleansing the chakra deal but it will give me something to disagree w/ .

i agree. satan is behind the whole mess of it.  i believe he's trying to get your double out of your body so he can buy it from you.  hence the expression 'sell your soul to the devil'.  if he gives me a few grand i may consider it.  maybe i'll buy a central air conditioning unit to cool off all of hell while i'm down there.

cheater

i'm confused about the eating thing.  you were more astral and not more ld right?

i remember reading through that post a while back but didn't really take to it much.  especially after reading what robert said about it taking a very long time to put up a good defense and it being even harder to keep it that way.  i was mentally siding w/ whoever was saying that shields were being made too big a deal and that if you are attacked you just defend yourself.  it may have been kakkarot.   i believe i could fight it off everytime if i really wanted to but would rather just prevent it from happening than doing so.  i've been taking some garlic pills every day.  we'll see how this works.

i can't handle my alcohol at all.  i get the same symptoms immediately after drinking.  a friend of mine had me drink w/ him once and made me drink a full glass of water after each beer.  i felt great.  there were no problems.  the next morning when woke up i was still drunk but that's it.  there were absolutely no hangover symptoms.  makes you pee like someone that was drinking a glass of water in between each beer though.

as w/ everything practice is the best way to progress.  the process that you are using sounds good.  i used to fall asleep myself frequently in the beginning.  i'm not sure what the topic is called but if you search for it i'm sure you can find the one that discusses the suneye method of falling asleep for six hours and then waking up for an hour to wake up your mind some followed by you lying back down again and allowing your body to fall back asleep again.  i have used it once already w/ amazing results.  i don't know if i can call them conscious projections because i woke up to the symptoms the first time but i had four or five in a row w/ this method w/ in about fifteen minutes.

maybe one of those sleep masks would help w/ your eyes staying closed.

i've never heard anything like that before.  maybe if she was or has been doing any lucid dream experimentation she could include a post hypontic suggestion to herself that she would like to be somewhere sunny.  maybe she could visit one of the poles during the six months of sunlight, that way she would have no choice.

yeah i have the book and i read most of it but can't find it now.  i read the part in the beginning of the book about them but it didnt say much.  i wouldn't think they would be mentioned again.

i don't drink but a friend of mine and my uncle both told me that i shouldn't ever if i was in any type of pain.  both said it intensified the feeling.  i thought it was wierd too until i rememberd that the few times that i have smoked weed it had the same effect.

i believe i there was a very long post about some relax tek.  it was a continued post from the same topic but was movied because it was getting too long.  from what i gather you relax and basicly focus on your brow chakra until you start to see or hear anything hypnogogic.   you then passively enter the place you are experiencing.  i guess this would be very similar to inducing a wild.  this is a very rough desc. and frank goes into more detail about it in the post.  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=&TOPIC_ID=534  

i'm a little confused as to how something like this wasn't encountered by robert bruce in his attempts to project directly to a higher plane by focusing on the brow chakra.  there is a mention of it in ad.  it would be interesting to see what he has to say about this.  

i'm still very unclear as to why there are no exit symptoms and if you are still projecting your double or are just projecting your consciousness.  if the consciousness is what's being projected and it's going to the same place then what would be the point of having a double or the vibes?

now that i know who it is...maybe we can meet again later

i can't think of any reasons why reiki would hinder your oobe's.  i can however, think of numerous reasons why it would help your attempts.  if you could be more specific as to why it would hinder, i would be more than happy to argue.  

i know that when i take any type of medication that makes me drowsy i have to fight off the projection symptoms.  they seem to bombard me.  my energy body as well is extremely sensitive and raising energy is automatic.  

i'd rather be able to prject consciously first rather than use benadryl.

i would think that all of your dreams would be incredibly vivid if you were just able to recall them all w/ the same vividness as they had when you were dreaming.  if you are lucid you should be able to make things as vivd as you like.  

if you are referring to poor vision when you obe, i believe it's supposed to get better w/ each projection.   i've read that you can pull in more energy while out too.

hump everyone as many times as you can

it seems as though the ability to bend metal objects is more popular than the ability to move objects.   at least by the professionals.  any ideas why?

i feel as though i can not be harmed and have had a few experiences to confirm this sorta.  it's still hard to not be a little disorienting when you can actually feel something that's not supposed to be able to harm you.

do a search on incubus and succubus if you havent found out about them already