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Yeah this was a superb find for me. Its gotten my brain ticking about a few other things.

Ok im kinda jumping the gun by posting this because Im going to test the idea but havent yet but I also want some peoples opinions on it.

Alot of the time people have a hard time getting into the mind awake/body asleep state when attempting to OBE... sometimes people are pretty good at it but ya know it takes like 10 mins or what not. What about phasing how long does it take people to get to that state where they're on the edge of phasing?
Well heres my idea... Get into the state which you need to be in to OBE (whatever it is for you) and then ANCHOR it using NLP so that at any time you can trigger that state instantly with whatever trigger you've set. I think it would work brilliantly... I theorize that you would have to anchor by sub-vocalizing a certain word (preferably made up one) as moving any of you're body parts will cause your state to change making the exercise useless. If it worked... which it should, all you have to do to get to that state is just lie down, get comfy and sub-vocalize that word you set when anchoring to trigger the associated state and you're off!

Any thoughts?

slow deep breathing with a pause inbetween breaths will extend your life span by a fair bit.

she oughta get off the drugs, eat healthy (live foods), exercise and learn good breathing techniques. She also needs to get to a hospital pretty quick.

Fasting should help... when you fast all your energy that is used in the digestive process gets used instead to clean toxins out of the body. Fasting is truly a miracle and its mother natures natural cure. The more discomfort you experience the more its working! Considering she has drugs in her system fasting helps to expell those toxins super quick its also a major help in breaking addictions. The body has 40 days worth of reserves of all the nutrients it needs to survive so it isnt dangerous at all. When you fast you MUST drink at least 2 Litres of water daily (8 - 10 glasses) and it should preferably be distilled water. A 7 - 10 day fast would be extremely beneficial. If she were healthy in the first place she would have never gotten an infection in the blood. Moral of the story "Prevention is the best cure!". I hope she'll be ok.

thanks for the info novice Yes i've heard of the bates method recently while doing some reasearch and have seen that others have expanded on it. Im extremely keen to begin doing eye exercises as my eyesight is terrible (i need my glasses everywhere, even around the house :/) I'll look into that link you posted. Thanks again.

On the subject of the soul you dont need to know everything about something or be able to explain it to experience it. Further more theres plenty of documentation on people who can see auras... also particularly barbara brennan who was a shrink and started seeing the auras of her clients and she noted that whenever patients had problems their auras and chakras were in a certain state and clients with the same problems their auras had the same patterns... that went on for i think just under a decade before she decided to practice holistic healing instead... then years later she quit that to open up her own school to teach healing... its a 4 year course. So dont go tellin me theres no soul.

On the subject of AI... yeah they wouldnt experience emotion conventionally but say they have the capability to learn... you do something bad to them then they learn that you're intentions arent in their favour then they experience their artificiall emotion (that is their programs tell them something is up and they alter their behaviour accordingly).. so now they turn on you. So not cool.

the pursuit of knowledge isnt limited to being a philosopher its about learning about anything and anything that interests you and seeking to become either conciously competent or an expert on the subject... unfortunately most people regard people like that as "nerds"... I dont see the point in that. haha its none of my business what anyone else thinks bout me anyways...so I couldnt care less! Im not subject to the mind control of negative conditioned response due to judgment.

Robots wouldnt possess a soul. I beleive its definately possible to develop AI and put it into robots to make them sentient beings... but heres my problem with it... humanity cant even keeps its own actions and emotions under control and it wants to create a new race because "that'd be pretty cool". WE ARENT READY. Plus... I dont want AI or robots. Computers are ok and they're a very useful tool. They could certainly be developed muchhhh further but I dont think robots in particular would be a good idea at all.

I Actually believe the pamphlet Idea is feasable... maybe it'd be kinda thick (not too thick) but I certainly think its do-able and would be of huge benefit to parents and kids. At some point in the future I may even do a draft! I know theres BOOKS on parenting but seriously very few people have the attention span... a pamphlet or mini booklet if you like containing nuggets of information (small little chunks that can be easily remembered and repeated) would work because everyone has the time for a few sentences.

I believe the capacity for humans to learn is immense... there are some people who are fluent in 5 - 7 languages... that in itself speaks volumes to me!!! You're right though with the whole "Remember And Repeat" LOL that should be every schools motto!!! Im extremely keen on learning photo-reading at the moment as a way to help me learn much more at a much faster rate than i currently do. I wonder what would happen if they taught photo-reading in schools? And you know another thing that is pretty stupid... We're brought up into a society that persecutes the pursuit of knowledge... now THATS helpful isnt it? If schools taught that the pursuit of knowledge was one of the greatest things you could do in life than maybe we wouldnt have that problem...

I read it all and i found it confusing

Im EXTREMELY short sighted (myopic astigmatism) so my first question is... Do I do this with or without glasses on? Um secondly... Do I just move my eyes around fluidly in any random direction changing directions (or patterns) as i see fit not actually focusing on any one thing?

the education system IMHO is terrible... its extremely ineffecient. Attention creates interest and interest prolongs attention, no one enjoys being forced to participate in something they are not interested in. School kids often have various subjects where they hold little to no interest meaning its all in one ear and out the other... If they made things interesting kids would learn. I agree with the above point also very much! Essential life skills should be taught in skills... kids should be taught how to comunicate, survive and be human!!! The education system of most major countries does NOT teach kids to think it only teaches them to blindly accept what they are taught, learn it and try to retain it. If you cant think critically you are very limited in your mental efficiency (im not saying you're stupid tho).

Another thing about education is... almost every parent i've ever encountered has never been taught how to parent properly and thus use inefficient methods often winding up in a yelling match... not good. What I would LOVE to see is every new parent being given a parenting manual (in the form of a pamphlet cos guys wouldnt bother to read a book) that gives them nuggets of information on what actions will have what effects on children in regards to their behavior... and simple methods they can employ to keep their kids under control and help their kids develop to their fullest potential.

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! TEACH ME HOW! thats amazing!!! I cant even count the ways in which i could benift from that... infact I believe I this is the exact thing i've been looking for (without actually doing any looking i just knew this is what i needed) in regards to a certain hiccup im having in learning photoreading.

thats an interesting point but i think i understand where elias is coming from. Look at how humans use emotions... emotions have a huge impact on human behaviour and influence our desicions in a big way. I dont think its the same for animals...take for example a person who holds a grudge... theres a lot of emotion there now do you think animals hold grudges with emotions like we do? I dont think so... im sure animals experience emotions but like elias said they're more a form of outward visual communication... that is they dont internalize there emotions and store them like humans do.

I agree. The goverment has HUGE control over the information the public recieves through the media. Now days its basically their source of education... Im glad a few people are waking up.

it was channeled through "Elias" go look up the elias forum... or elias material.. theres a post somewhere in this forum about it.

and everything after "who wrote that" didnt make any sense at all,

its the goverment and the media which USE mind control... in certain forms.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_2012_and_the_maya/how_prophecies_become_realities_must_read-t26920.0.html;msg224207

I encourage everyone to read that as it is in relation to this topic.

um... i've never heard that from the goverment only buddhism. You misunderstand though... Just because i understand that things are not good or bad they simply are doesnt mean I dont feel compassion because I definately do. Infact its poeple that commit attrocities that have a lack of compassion.

Of course with certain actions there is a general consensus on what is good and what is bad but that being said good and bad still remain subjective no matter which way you look at it. So by inference its impossible for the actions themselves to be objectively good or bad they just simply are! Do you understand where im coming from when I say that now? Im not saying "its ok to murder people" definately not. Also by saying something is "ok" you that is also a judgment same as good and bad but somewhere in the middle. People who commit crimes and other such attrocities are living from a seperatist view point... they view everything as seperate to themselves therefore they are all that matters and they have a lack of compassion... they dont mind hurting someone else because they believe they are not getting hurt in actuality they are. I live from a holistic view point in which everyone and everything is intrinsically linked so that if i were to murder someone else i also understand that I have murdered an aspect of me which of course from this perspective would be devastating.

its true I agree... but its all in our belief systems and they are all different. Im simply looking at these situations from a wider perspective... I do feel compassion but i dont beleive in victims in the traditional sense that everyone else does although they are victims in the sense that they believe they have no choice about what happens to them. Although I still have the automatic response of judgment as good or bad/ right or wrong im slowly beggining to let that go because actions are neither good nor bad they just simply are.

You All Must Read This!

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_2012_and_the_maya/how_prophecies_become_realities_must_read-t26920.0.html;msg224207

apparently "Atlantis" was never a place in this dimension... but another one.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_2012_and_the_maya/how_prophecies_become_realities_must_read-t26920.0.html;msg224207

there is mention of it there...

I was reading some of the "Elias Material" and in the description of "regional area 3" (Focus 3) Elias (entity based in focus 4) describes how "prophecies" become actual realities. Im going to qoute some of the material.

Some individuals tap into this area of consciousness (Focus 3) and receive information not pertaining to this particular dimension. Therefore, you have created situations of individuals espousing upon the connections between yourselves and beings within other dimensions. You have also created myths in the areas of your mythology partially, and in areas of Atlantis, which also do not belong in this particular dimension, but parallel enough that the information is formed to fit into this dimension, and therefore creating of myths.

This information which is tapped through Regional Area 3 also creates a situation for prophecies. There are many prophecies that are being espoused on presently in conjunction with your new millennium.

As your century turns, so to speak, you look to all types of signs of a new age. You look to prophecies of elements which have been stated, that there is the possibility or the probability for many actions to be occurring. These may be destructive actions or they may be what you term to be positive actions. Either direction matters not, in one respect. In the respect that it is all information that is being gathered from Regional Area 3 and is not necessarily information that may be connected to your particular dimension, this would be the information in itself mattering not, but in gathering such information and sharing objectively this information and the interpretations of the information which then become distortions, there is much energy lent to these myths, which become prophecies. In this, the energy lent to them creates the possibility for probabilities. In this, the information which is tapped and inserted into your dimension begins to matter, for it may be altering of your reality in directions that you may not necessarily choose to have be accomplished.

This is the manner that your fulfilled prophecies occur. There is enough energy lent to that which has been projected, and in that the energy has created the potentiality for creating a probability, and as more energy is lent in that direction, it becomes no longer a potentiality but an actual probability, and as more energy is lent, it then becomes an actualization within your dimension.

thanks for the link. I've just spent half the morning reading some of it. Its really good and enlightening. Something that stood out to me was how prophecies become actual realities... a person merely taps into focus 3 and recieves information not relavent to this dimension but they make it fit into this dimension and they make their prophecy which is then given attention making it an actual probability... people then believe it which lends great amounts of energy to it and thus it actually manifests! Thats an amazing bit of info.

it does have a huge entertainment value. I find it quite entertaining to watch... not for the sake of laughing at people being stolen from but more for amazing capabilities and weaknessess of the human brain. I would also argue that the people being duped did indeed choose to be although not conciously. There is no such thing as a "victim" when you believe you are a victim you are really only percieving that you lack any choice. In actually you do not lack choice.

sounds like a dream in which you became lucid which is always a cool experience.