It sounds good but it is a lot of money if it does not work. I read on the internet that it was a scam. I do not know if it is or not.
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Show posts MenuQuote from: teapea on May 11, 2013, 11:03:13Thanks for sharing your experience. It sounds great. I might try that.
I can be aware of my body, but overall unless I'm focusing on what my body is feeling I'm largely disassociated from it.
Quote from: r1c1 on May 10, 2013, 17:18:23SP does not last very long. It is very quick. Sp cannot hurt you. Try to enjoy that stage as you can get out of your body. I used to get sp a lot and I loved it. I was wide awake. I could not move. I would spiritually get out of my body. It was fantastic to be able to do that. If you do not want to do that, you could try other ways to get out.
How long do I have to stay in the paralysis stage, as that's the part that scares me and I end up waking myself.
Quote from: Mihai97 on May 08, 2013, 12:59:13That is right. That is all you have to do. A tip, you must be confident that you can do it. Ap is a lot harder if you have any doubts that you can do it.
So after having this sensations all I have to do is to focus on the separation?
Quote from: jamesdavisiv on May 07, 2013, 13:06:11Next time when you are feeling like you are sinking, go along with it. Feel like you are sinking and very shortly you will be sinking. You will be out of your body into some place.
Today I reached that point where I felt I was in the vibrational state, and I had the sinking feeling in my stomach. I felt as if I was very close,
Quote from: Sisyphus on May 03, 2013, 19:42:01I tend to agree. This releasing DMT sounds like a gimmick. I listen to a powerful ap CD during the day when I can. I have not ap from it. I can ap in the mornings but my goal is to ap during the day or early evening. The only way to do it is to practice. The CD relaxes you enormously. The only problem is you have to be careful you do not fall asleep. I often feel parts of my inner self or physical self, I am not sure which, move. I think I am getting closer. My point is the CD cost a small amount of money and it probably has the same results. If some people think the machine is really good and it is worth it to them then I support it.
It just makes me sad when scientific research finds something quite important to do with OBE/possibly spiritual/mind research and instead of sharing the information the two "scientists" behind it decide to market it and sell the experience. So the price of 15,000 isnt for the machine its for the amazing experiences you will have.
This is also why the salon in London is able to charge pretty high prices for a short experience with the Lucia
I doubt very much that they understand it..what it is that they are selling...but they have an ON and OFF switch so its all good :/
As i do think that Lucia has hit on something quite important but those behind it are like kids playing with matches. Its all about the money they dont care or give a damn...
I hate how the world is like this - greed and capitalism own the world's soul imo. There is no chance of any kind of spiritual revolution or change because it will never be allowed..
Quote from: desert-rat on April 29, 2013, 17:23:27I had a quick look at the site and I saw that she is charging $3000 for a course/class. It does not say how long the class is for that I could see. I would advise to keep away from people like this. She sounds like a scam. There are other ways to get information which I think would be just as good as hers for a lot less money.
p.s. Erin has some blogs on a.p. http://www.erinpavlina.com/
Quote from: AstralJames on April 23, 2013, 09:36:00From what you describe it sounds like you are very close to ap. You just have to make it happen.
I will feel like something is separating my body, and my blanket that is on top of me. My limbs feel numb, but when I breathe, my chest
pushes the covers up a little making a kind of tingling on my arms as it rubs against it. I feel like I can't move at all, but if I try, I can move... Pretty easily.
Can someone tell me if this sounds like SP or not? Cause from what others describe, and the name, you're
completely paralysed. It seems like what I'm doing isn't SP.