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I don't know, maybe it's just me.  BUT I have never felt or seen any differences in one energy from another.  Psi, Chi, Ki, and so on and on.  To me they are all the same.  They are just labels for the practising and/or usage of energy and not, well not to me, a different kind of energy.

As for your question.

Psionics more clearly defined, by me of course, is as follows.

The use and manipulating of energy to achieve a prestated goal.  This includeds the usage of energy to enhance or unlock certain secrets of the body as well as using it to effect objects or people.

I.E.  A person working on one of the telekinetic abilities would use energy to effect an object.  Make it move, hot, cold, what ever.  This however does not mean it is for battle purposes.  Me personally am more interested in the more practicle applications...like weilding.

Now a person working on telepathic skills would use energy to align thier body to achieve said goal.  Imagine not having to pick up a phone ever again.  That would be nice.


Now many of the sites you run across for this kind of activity "seem to" promote violance through energy manipulation.  However this is not true of ALL sites.  There are many who although teach combat usage do so only for the protection of the user.  This being because like with most things as soon as some one figures that they can do some thing they look to take advantage of others by using thier gift.


There are many purests out there like myself who are more interested in the study of this activity and its possability to enhance a persons life, not thier pocket.

Well we will see how the E-zine aspect goes.  My only problem with that is the HTML, I would need some one else to do it.

But look at it this way also,  when your situations change the news letter will be there waiting.

Frank,

  What are some of the clues that you have projected into the RTZ?


Greytraveller,

   It some what makes sence because I have been sitting in front of my computer when this happens.  When this happens for you is there a change in the "normal" light at the location?  Brighter/Darker?  Do these waves create any light?

I have given serious thought to the ezine approach but for now it is some thing that I can not do.  Maybe in the future who knows, but I will have to find some one who can do a lot of html and is willing to work for peanuts.

Astrology is a good idea.  Again though I would like to find a original source and not just re-print from some one else.

In the end you will do what you are ment to do, as all of us will.  Trust in that and know that the choice is not fully yours on who continues.

Even though they are not sure where or how the brain stores the information it is a common belief that all the information that you take in gets recorded.  24/7/365.  Every thing you see, hear, touch, every thing, even the stuff you do not realize is there.  The information is there it is just a matter of unlocking it.

The thing to look into is regression.  If you search the web you will find info on both past life and present life regression.  Some is done with the help of another person, like hypnosis, but there are several techniques that can be done by yourself.  The self learning techniques are more geared towards increasing the amount of information you can consiously remember.  Eventually it will lead you all the way back.

I would have to say that in the end it would boil down to wether or not an animal can ask itself one question.  Why am I here?

My personal belief is that consiousness is the ability to reflect on ones self.  So unless we can actually talk to an animal and ask what it thinks of itself and its place in the world we can only specualte.

Nightfall,

"spiritism" ?  Do you mean spiritualism?  I'll just assume that.
Spiritualism is a big catagory.  Normally referring to the "new age" way of thinking.  I use the "" because if you do some research a majority of it has been around since or before the time the bible was written.

Me personally, I don't follow any faith, at least not that I am aware of.  I believe a great many things, far too many to list.  My beliefe system is a cluster of several different types of mainstream and non-mainstream religions.  I can for the most part find some good in all religions.

I was born and baptised roman catholic.  But I don't go to church and I have never been to Sunday school.  I stopped going to Christmas Mass when I was 18, up untill then I was humoring my mother and her side of the family.  I stopped considering myself a catholic when I was about 12 or 13.  I never went through first communion because when it became time I already was aware that the church was not in line with my path.

Since then I have been searching.  I pick and choose from different religions or schools of thoughts, only ever taking parts.  I use these different parts to define my own path.  Some of the things that I hold true though come not from and church or religion but they are my own views on how things work.  

What really got me going in this direction was when I started trying to answer questions reguarding certain "born on" talents that I have.  More so when I learned that not everyone was like this, or rather did not realize that it was possible for them to be like this.

Other than that I consider myself a student of the human condition.  Whatching how others live, interact, and think helps me to understand my own workings.

Do animals have spirit?  Yes I believe they do..

Are they concisous...No I don't think so or at least not at the same level as human.  Please note that I will not say which I think is higher or  lower.  

For instance, dogs.  They can activly think, they show emotion, but they must do as they do.  They can not control thier base urges, and if/when they do it is only because thier owner says otherwise.

An animal is what it is, no right, no wrong. no good, no evil.  I believe a human is concisous only because of two things.  The ability to exert control over ones self, and the ability to choose.

Although I can not confirm that I have "talked" to an entity in my dreams or in other states, I have had some interesting encounters.  I am also very analytical of my dreams as well, just ask around.

From what I have experienced there is a definate differeance between certain entities or types of ecounters in dreams.

For instance in one dream I know, in this case, that bastard Brad Pitt was only a representation of my own worries that after gaining some thing that I have sought after for so long that I would end up messing it up and preventing myself from getting it.  In this particular dream the emotional context was there but it was limited in all areas, deliverance, responce, and feeling.  But there was an understanding that this was not really Brad Pitt but just a face to match a quality that I seek.

But in another dream there was a singular little girl who's voice, face, and eyes carried in them an immesurable amount of strong emotional content.  She was innocent, pure, but very wise, well beyond her years, and her strength poured off of her and filled the space we were in.  I could do nothing but be touched by it, the only defense was to surrender and to see her for what she was.

So yes I would wager that at times we are talking to our selves and at other times some one is actually listening.

[Athios]

Athios

quote:As for the brain-stumble thing... is this supposed to be a physical thing? Or a metaphysical thing?

I spectulate that it is a physical problem.  Be it a chemical build up or a miss firing of cells I am not sure.  It is currently virtually impossible to test since the occurrances are impossible to predict and therefore study.


Parmenion

It could be either a closer connection with your higher self or simply remembering the "at the time" precog dreams.

MTBI Test Results
Your personality type is ISTJ.

Introverted (I) 96% Extraverted (E) 4%
Sensing (S) 55% Intuitive (N) 45%
Thinking (T) 50% Feeling (F) 50%
Judging (J) 59% Perceiving (P) 41%


Well so far were mostly introverts.  There is only one extrovert.

[Athios]

Athios

quote:The 'brain stumble/download problem' would not explain how you'd be able to predict that something would happen based on your deja vu experience...

This is true, it doesn't.  But I feel it is still possible for "some" occurrances.

quote: But still, even if you were to have problems, I don't see why storing memory for an insignificant event would have higher mental 'process priority' than what is currently going on in your life.

Wether you are aware of all the details or not your brain records ALL information it receives on a 24/7/365 schedual.  Basically it never stops.  You may not always be able to consiously access that information but it it there.  The stumble that causes the DjV would not mean that the memory is any more important, I feel as it is just re-played as re-orient the brain as to what is going on around you.

quote:But isn't it odd that you'd get such a mind split (of this magnitude) so often? I mean, to daydream and such is normal, but to have your conciousness divided so much that you'd get an OBE integration-type thing going on (while awake!)?
I guess it's possible, but my friend doesn't do OBE or energy stuff (and doesn't recall having any such experiences), and yet he gets deja vu twice a week! Wow... I guess I have to think about this for a while...

First off, It could be argued that your friend would not need to be into or knowladgable of OBE's, energy work, or any thing spiritual to be able to willingly or even unwillingly have a projection experience.  Most will say that every one, every where, projects every night.  That's one arguement any way.   But in truth I would have to know your friend and how they think, you know, spiritually and such.  
Ultimately the only way we would be able to study this at all would be to have people like you and your friend try a few things, because of frequency of uit happening.  If you really want to test the mind split idea then next time it happens try letting yourself slip into it.  Let go as you would with projection attempts.  See what happens.  If the length of the DjV increases then that would rule out a brain stumble, because my feeling with this is that you have have no control over what is going on.  If you can maintain, or even seperate out the memories from two different "halves" then the mind split idea would need more investigation.



Parmenion

I know that I have only ever had 2.  It could just be like with projection.  Some can start as soon as they decide to, with in the same hour, but yet others it has taken years.  One of the great misteries of life I guess.

lateralus897

quote:are you saying a projection that we are unaware of has happened during a deja vu? Or maybe your astral body has wandered down into the rtz and just wandered into the area you are currently occupying?

Yes I did think of it off the top of my head but it was one of those really cool ones where you get everything in one shot.  More like a sudden realization, so I will answer the question.
  It would be more like a projection occurring or starting to occurre.  But an actual mind split into two seperate points of consiousness.  Hence the often duality of the event, and the creation of the two seperate memories then being hammered together.

Where did you guys find the test.  I have looked for about a half an hour on the net but most of the links I have found are for paying for the test.  The others only give you a half "butt" test.

I have several ideas on what "could" be hapening durring a DV.

1.  Re-calling a previous, and at the time precognative, dream.  This would in some cases explain the small differences often reported.  Mostly with written word variances because of the difficulty reading in dreams.

2.  Past life memory, as stated in above post.
3.  Endless loop theory, as stated in above post.

4.  Brain stumble/down load problem.  I see this as a real possability but many will dissagree.  It is popssible for the brain to some what trip over it's own functions.  What I am suggesting is that for what ever reason the brain does this and it creats down load problems with the memory.  I suggest that when this happens the brain requires a "warm boot", and it would be during this process that the DV occures.  It would seem logical that, if this were to happen, that the brain might need a quick refresher to figure out whats going on again.  So a short bit of memory is replayed, and thus is created the "feeling" of having already done some thing.  The differences of between the two memories would be a case of lost or damamged information as a result of the stumble.


another one I thought of.
5.  A mind split.  Under this I suggest that for what ever reason your mind wonders and you actually experience a mind/consiousness split.  The feeling of the DV would come from not having done it before but that you are in one instance experiencing one event from two different perspectives.  The mild confusion that sets in durring a DV would most likely come from the intergration of the two memories when there is only room for one.  So I suggest that unlike with lost memory from AP, this memory gets layered.  This layering effect would make you able to recall both experiences but as a combined unit and not as seperate memories.  This also could explain some of the differences between the two memories as some information could get altered durring the down load due to the multiple memories.

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Well, yes and no.  I am lucid about 80% of the time.  I don't have to try any more.  My problem comes in when I am lucid I am not 100% lucid.  Meaning that I am aware, but I often can not change certain aspects of the dream.  So most of the time I just go with the flow.

"Umm....does anyone else get a headache when thinking about this kind of stuff too long?
Nevermind, I'll just go do a lap of the tank and I'll have forgotten about it by the time I come back."

That would be a "YES!"

I personally don't believe the soul carries on indefinatly.  But in the event it does lets look at it this way.

Well yes I suppose the soul could eventually get bored if it continued living, dieing, and reliving, again and again.  Eventually every thing would be learned and there would no longer be a point.

But now the alternate view.

Can any one honestly say that they are the exact same person they were last year?  Has nothing been learned or changed in you in tha time?  Surely there must be at least one thing, even if it is small, that has changed.  That being so, you are no longer the person you were last year.  This leads into the possability of repeating certain experiences that you have already had, but since now you are a different person, the experience "can" be a new one.  New light "could" be shed on this experience now because of the change that has occurred with in you.

The soul may work in the same way.  With each life the soul is changed and affected by that life.  In essience it becomes a new, different soul, open to different interpitations of the "possible" experiences.  In this way the cycle would never end because the soul would be differnt with passing.

That being said there still lays the possibility of intended re-occurrance.  What I mean by this is that even though, over the past year, you have changed there are still things you enjoy doing.  And you may even enjoy them into your next life.  Could the soul function at the same level?  What if your soul enjoyed being, let's say a doctor?  The possability is there that your soul could return just so that it could be a doctor again even though it has done so an uncountable number of times before.  Even if it is not learning or growing by the experience it could return simply for the joy of the experience.  Many of us repeat this same process every day.  We often do things that we gain no knowladge from, it doesn't add to, or change us in any way, but we do it anyway simply because we enjoy it.

Yeah my friend has those kinds.  She had a dream that she gotfired one time but stayed at work any way and had to deal with a bunch or rude callers.

But mine was different.  It was just a normal day at work.  Nothing went seriously wrong, no major problems, nothing.  In fact I spent most of that shift just doing standard work on the equipment, changing filters, greasing motors, that kind of stuff.

Wow, That was a lot of information.

SO my question becomes this.  

How many of the sex offenders were abused themselves?


    Of course I can not supply the documentation like above but I know that most if not all of the people who commit abuse, in all forms, were abused themselves.  So what are the percentages of people who were abused as children, ended up being sexually deviant because of it, and then later sexually abused children?  

    As far as teachers and thier sexual preferance.  I don't think any teacher below collage level should be allowed to make any referance to thier sexual preferances.  Human sexuality is not some thing that should be addressed until collage.  Even in sex edication classes that are given through school don't touch the human sexuality topic.  For the most part they only cover parts, how they work, and how to use protection.  The referance of the man/woman interaction in these classes is only for the covering of reproduction.  And we all no that for the vast majority of people having sex, reproduction is considered a side effect.  95% of the time it is done for the pleasure of the experience.  These classes should not cover sexual preferance, more so at the lower level classes, because full mental maturity has not been reached.
    For a teacher to be open about thier sexual preferances is akin to them saying sex is fun.  (Note, I am not saying it isn't.)  However that is not the message we should convey to our young people.  And to have a homosexual person being open about thier sexual preferences would drive home the "sex for fun" idea because of the reproduction impossabilities of same gender sex.
    That being said, I really don't care what the age, gender, or sexual leanings a teacher has.  Just so long as it is not openly discussed in class rooms.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3615&SearchTerms=phasing

1. How do you feel about homosexuality in general? Do you think homosexuality is wrong?
    My personal feelings are that it's not for me.  That much I know for sure.  As far as it being wrong in general....I don't know.  I guess in a way it is NOT.  How can love be wrong?  Although I find it interesting that for the vast majority seeing two women kiss in public is not as offensive as two guys doing it.  Odd.  I all though I believe that it should be, "To each his own."  If it is good for you fine, just don't go forcing every one into it.  But that goes for both hetro' and homosexual.  

2. If not, do you think gays need to adavnce their agenda?
    Advance it how?  If you mean all the gay pride marches and events then...yes.  But on the same note it does not have to be low key like it is evil.  Just be normal.  So you are a guy who likes other guys, does that mean you have to walk down the middle of the street and tell the world.  It is one thing to be proud of who you are but it is another to open the door for riddicual.  But I also feel they should continue to fight for legal marriages and things like that.  But  only the things that are denied to them because of thier sexual preferance.  Why should they be denied the ability to do so?  Of course I feel the same way about a lot of the race issues also.  Yes I believe that every one should have equal rights, but I do not believe that your color, or sexual preferance entitles you to special rights.  

3. Do you know anyone who is gay (the chances are high that you do).
      Yes I do.  I also know several people who are bi.  I have also talked to a couple of them in length about these issues.

4. Spiritually and naturally, how does it fit in?
     Spiritually...ummm....If you believe in past lives then you must also accept the idea that you may not have always been your current gender.  In which case homosexuality could be view as carry over of sexual preferance.  IE: Being of the opposite gender before and still have the same sexuality now.  To me in this case it would simply be a part of you.  Some thing you would have to accept.
     Naturally...I don't know.  But some fish and frogs are capable of changing thier gender based on the population.  It could be that the same kind of thing happens in humans but with out the physical change.  I have witnessed dogs and such acting out the same way.  I have two female dogs.  Before we had them fixed the larger one would try to mount the smaller one when they went into heat.  They showed the same kind of change, if only in mentallity, that other species show physically.  We as humans just have a beter control over our more animalistic tendancies.

5. Are people born gay?
    Maybe they are and maybe they aren't.  That is a question of much scientific debate.  And to me it makes no difference.  Are we born liking certain foods or does it change with time.  You could have one bad experience with brocoli and never be able to eat it again even though it tastes the same.

6. Can gay people change?
    Again, maybe.  We could all change.  Hell your happily married, but you could wake up tomorrow and suddenly find yourself attacted to the UPS guy.  It being that not all men in brown shorts does it for ya but just that one.  It's probably unlikely but it "could" happen.  (please note that this is only an example.  I am not saying anything.)

7. How is sexual abuse tied into homosexuality (or is it??)
      In some cases yes.  See above section concerning brocoli.  But it is not a 100% of the time thing.  Not every single homosexual has been abused.  But any abuse can have an infinate number of psychological effects on a person.  It can have no effect at all or it could cause a person to go postal.  You never know.

My father does not see it but a friend of mine from work told me over a year ago that this would start to happen.  2004, big brother will be watching.

Okay I have started a web site to help promote and recuite for this idea.

Please check it out and give suggestions.  Please remember it is on geocities and has just started over the last 2 days, but I am working on it.

http://www.geocities.com/metaphysicalmonthly/

That's great[]

Keep it up and lets us know if you continue to have sucess.

Some one watches too much SG1.