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Wonderful post Tides, and topic, and beautifully stated. The wisdom and message of the Sufi's is most profound, and worthy of further discussion.  It is also very apparent how other religions and Spiritual traditions, such as Jesus are in complete alignment.

Ultimately all Spiritual traditions and messengers such as Jesus have one core, and most important message, that of Divine, Unconditional Love and our relationship with Source, God through the Heart, our fellow humans, and with life as a whole..

The meaning and purpose of lives - "incarnations" - on Earth is very simple - transcend the influence of the ego, to become One with the Heart, Divine Love. Then, and only then, can the path to Source, God, truly begin.

Plain and simple - to hate or dislike anyone, for any reason, is to hate or dislike God and self in the same degree.

Jesus taught this:

And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength:
this is the first commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
There is none other commandment greater than these. ~ Mark 12:30-31

Which is completely in alignment with the message of the Sufi's.

We have already discussed in this topic, the Sufi "expansiveness of the Heart", but Rumi states the meaning of life here on Earth very succinctly in the context of the need to first completely overcome the influence of the ego:

"Till man destroys "self" he is no true friend of God." ~ Rumi

By this he means, that until the ego, which identifies with self, is completely vanquished, there can be no true Spiritual progress on the Divine Path leading to One-ness with Source, God, in absolute terms.

Jesus said:

Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. ~ Matthew 18:3

From birth to age 7 or so children generally have no ego and retain a close connection with Spirit, the Kingdom of Heaven. After that they become progressively indoctrinated by parents, schools and society into the "ways of the world", and the higher connection is lost as the ego progressively takes control

So, by "converted", he meant converted  away from the ego back to the natural and original Unconditional Love, as a small child,  and connection with Source, before the gateway to the true to path of full Source realisation can be realised .

So, although the Sufi's and Jesus where of different eras and circumstances, the message of the Heart is always the same.

If anyone has ever wondered how "prophets", messengers, avatars etc. such as Rumi and Jesus have the knowledge to teach as they do, the entire knowledge of the Universe is within everyone - but only through the Heart.

"A pure heart, open to the Light, will be filled with the elixir of Truth." ~ Rumi

Wonderful - thanks for sharing these profound truths as expressed so beautifully by the Sufi's.

The Universe may be summarised by a single word - LOVE.

"Love means to reach for the sky
 and with every breath to tear a
 hundred veils. Love means to step
 away from the ego, to open the eyes
 of inner vision and not to take this
 world so seriously" ~ Rumi

And so much more, of the Heart.

Clearly I take from this, our pets are incredibly advanced from a Spiritual perspective, and they are showing us a window of how things could be.

A bit off topic, but hopefully thought provoking.

I enjoy the way these topics can morph as we expand our thoughts.

Felines and Cetaceans are highly advanced Spiritual Beings both here on Earth and other planets as well as the non-physical. The Ancient Egyptians revered and treated their Cats above their pantheon of Gods, such was their Spiritual and Emotional Oneness with them. In ancient Egypt, whenever a cat passed, the Ancient Egyptians would shave their eyebrows as a mark of respect.

I absolutely agree that our group here on the forums are connected. From time to time I have considered posting on other Spiritual forums in addition to this one, but is no more than a transient thought, as this forum with our group here, is the only forum I feel I should or want to be.

On the subject of magnets and projecting - over the years I have encountered many accounts by projectors who have been unable to project and become "stuck" when in proximity of high voltage overhead power lines, which produce very strong electromagnetic energy, so is definitely no coincidence. This is in addition to reports of other metaphysical effects associated with power lines..

The ancients built stone monuments on, or at the intersection of Ley Lines, which connect ancient structures around the world, such as Stonehenge, associating them with energy fields and pathways providing powers, and also portals.

I believe I understand where you're coming from. My approach is a little different.

When I read or watch something, or evaluate an experience or a perception that attracted my attention, I look beyond the message and the facts; I intuitively interpret them as deeply as I can, considering the message or the facts as symbols intended to convey knowledge and guidance for me specifically.

Yes I agree with what you are saying. It is definitely not possible to receive accurate authentic channelled information through the filters of the ego, for reasons you mentioned.

I have concluded that, in this case, the background story regarding where the text came can be fundamentally disregarded, and in fact is largely irrelevant. The text itself however is worthy of further examination in its own right. .

When it comes to channelled material of the type found on Youtube for example, not that I listen to them usually, it is impossible to be sure of the identity and authenticity of the entity it is supposedly channelled from, many are imagined, and others are low Astral or etheric entities who claim to be any higher being  to be taken seriously. The only way to be absolutely sure is by the accuracy of the information being channelled.  That said, there are one or two I have listened to that I am satisfied are genuine.

A few days ago I went to acupuncturist as one of my friends suggested to treat my stiff neck.

Have you considered "acupressure"? It works in the same way as acupuncture, but without the needles, and you can practice it yourself at home. You just need an acupuncturist to show you the pressure points, or research it on the web.

Edit: for example:

https://tcmtips.com/5-acupressure-points-to-relieve-neck-stiffness-in-2-minutes/

This should clarify some things for whoever's interested. Probably I could continue through the rest of the book, if there is interest.

Well, I will say that this is an interesting topic, if not a paradox There seems to be two main issues here:

1. The authenticity of the tablets.
2. The content of the tablets.

I have no idea of who this Doreal person is, aside from the title he gives himself. With regards to:

Doreal claimed that he was directed by a spiritual order called the Great White Lodge to recover and return the tablets to the Great Pyramid. Before returning them, he received permission to translate and retain a copy of their teachings. This translation was supposedly completed in 1925, but only now is part of it being published.

While nothing is impossible, I seriously doubt this story, which seems to me to be a cover explanation as to how he supposedly acquired the text. Also, this suggests that the text was not channelled but rather that Doreal somehow managed to translate the tablets from some obscure text, probably hieroglyphic, which, in itself, is doubtful in my view. As for returning the tablets to the great pyramid -  you cannot just walk in to the great pyramid with a bunch of tablets and hide them somewhere, and in any case, although the pyramids are much older than historians claim - I would say nearer 12,000 years, they are definitely not 36,000 years or more. Also, the ancient texts, whatever they are, are usually claimed to be located in a chamber beneath the Sphinx. So my immediate thought is that this is all a cover story to justify the supposed importance and authenticity of this text, which came about some other way. Also the fact that Doreal uses a false name and gives himself a grandiose title does not add much credibility, as if he wrote or channelled it and wanted to make it seem important so people would read it.

2. I haven't read much of the text, or intend to, but there is certainly truth and wisdom in the text if you can extract it, how he came by it is questionable

Interesting discussion anyway.

I read "The Emerald Tablets of Thoth" from the above link. In the book's "Introduction" and "Preface", the author gives a clear explanation about it. It is an altered state of consciousness translation, so a kind of channeling. The author acknowledges that some people might have doubts of the authenticity of his source, but he invites the reader to keep reading it anyway, and use it as a conduit to draw knowledge, interpreting the material according to his possibilities.

The book contains some ideas worth pondering on, that were, very likely, acquired through channeling; they aren't your regular new-age ideas about physical and the wider realities. As expected, any channeling material must contain some distortions caused by the beliefs of the channel (the author), so an intuitive interpretation by the reader is required.

I wouldn't call the book fake, invention, fiction, or such.

I recommend reading this booklet, with the above observations.

I checked a couple of Darius J Wright videos about the Halls of Amenti, and in my opinion he largely misinterpreted Doreal's book, Thoth's teachings, about that subject.

Alex's experiences' description in the opening post has commonalities with some of my altered states experiences.

Setting aside the issue of the Emerald Tablet, I read some of the text.

In my view it was almost certainly channelled, I doubt the publisher of the text could have written it. It certainly seems to contain a lot of wisdom if you can extract from the extensive and very unusual way it is written, which in my view is unlikely to hold the attention of many who start reading it.

Thanks for sharing anyway, and for your ongoing contributions.

 

As we mentioned Sufism in another topic, I would like share this poem by Rumi who asks a question that many may ask - Who Am I?

I am neither Christian, nor Jew, nor Gabr, nor Moslem.

I am not of the East, nor of the West, nor of the land, nor of the sea;
I am not of Nature's mint, nor of the circling heavens.

I am not of earth, nor of water, nor of air, nor of fire;
I am not of the empyrean, nor of the dust, nor of existence, nor of entity.

I am not of India, nor of China, nor of Bulgaria, nor of Saqsín;
I am not of the kingdom of Irãqain, nor of the country of Khorãsãn.

I am not of this world, nor of the next, nor of Paradise, nor of Hell;
I am not of Adam, nor of Eve, nor of Eden and Rizwãn.

My place is the Placeless, my trace is the Traceless;
'Tis neither body nor soul, for I belong to the soul of the Beloved.

I have put duality away, I have seen that the two worlds are one;
One I seek, One I know, One I see, One I call.

He is the first, He is the last, He is the outward, He is the inward;
I know none other except "O He who is"

I am intoxicated with Love's cup, the two worlds have passed out of my ken;
I have no business save carouse and revelry.

If once in my life I spent a moment without thee,
From that time and from that hour I repent of my life.

If once in this world I win a moment with thee,
I will trample on both worlds, I will dance in triumph for ever.

O Shamsi Tabríz, I am so drunken in this world,
That except of drunkenness and revelry I have no tale to tell.

~ Rumi

Thank you very much for your responses! ❤

Adrian, thank you for your words! They mean a lot to me. I also enjoy reading your posts, and I have your books in my Virtual Library . Thanks for all the wonderful work you do in this community, which I appreciate so much! Same to all the moderators and participants.

Thanks so much for your kind words. To me though it is never "work", but rather a passion to share and make available the means by which people of like-mind can share knowledge, experiences and friendship. For all the technology, without you wonderful people, and those visiting here, it would be nothing. And again I must thank Xanth for continuing this forum and for all the work he did behind the scenes, helping to keep the forum running notwithstanding the challenges at times. To me, if I have helped even one person to find the Light within, it is all more than worthwhile.

Adrian,

Thank you for mentioning- it's something special to see we share an appreciation for Sufi wisdom and here you are not only familiar with where I live but have two stepsons just about an hour drive from me.

This journey has started off as seemingly "independent," but it's one almost all of us go through. And the more we grow with our understanding, by experiential wisdom, the more joy is found in our common bond.

Living in England, we tend to think of everything as "near". I can drive east to west across the country in about 3.5 hours. The state of Texas is five times the size of England. In physical terms, Earth is a tiny speck in the Universe, in Spiritual terms, Earth does not exist at all. No matter where we all are, be it in England, USA, any other country, here on this forum, there is no "distance" or "time", we are One Together Now with Source, God.

Yes, absolutely, Sufi wisdom is most profound, as mystics seek Oneness with God, Source, rising above the ego, to be One with Divine Love. Jesus was also a mystic among other things. This is why they could access Universal truth. In the words of Rumi:

"A pure heart, open to the Light, will be filled with the elixir of Truth." ~ Rumi

It is wonderful how the Universe worked in bringing the profound wisdom of Jesus, Sufi's and many others to humanity words to humanity. Jesus was teaching to a relatively small groups of people in a remote part of the Middle East. If it were not for the fact that the Romans decided to turn him into a religion for their own purposes, Jesus and his teachings would likely never have been known to the world. Same with the Sufi's. In the middle ages the English were sending crusades to the Middle East. They were accompanied by bands of entertainers called "Troubadour's". The Troubadour's came across what they thought was beautiful romantic poetry depicting an earthly romance between humans, so they brought it back to England to entertain people.

No matter what opposing forces conspire to do to distance humanity from the glorious truth of Who we Are, Children, Expressions of God, Source, The Light will always prevail.

Well if you focus on feeling spirit hands, and expect it, your subconscious mind will make the feeling seem real to. My advice is to focus on your primary objective of achieving an OBE. In my view, the most direct way to experience an etheric projection, OBE, in the so called "real time zone", "RTZ", close to the physical vibration is as follows. As you drift off to sleep, imagine, as vividly as possible, how you would feel outside your physical body. Imagine how exhilarated you feel, free of the physical body, floating, flying and travelling anywhere you can imagine instantly. You can add your out of body objectives with associated feelings to the imagination. You can also make use of your idea of being pulled out of your body by other beings, imagining the sensations associated with it, and how you will feel when achieved. This process impresses the desire, intent and feelings upon your subconscious mind, which will accept it as true, and sooner or later make it so. When this happens, you will likely awake from sleep with the sensation of vibrations, at which point, keep your mind clear of thoughts and remain calm until you are completely dissociated and feel free of the physical body, at which point you can command or imagine whatever you wish to do next.

All that said, I am very much in favour of the "Phasing" method, which, as previously mentioned, is a structured, progressive meditative approach to inner exploration, which can take you through experiencing energy forms at progressively higher vibratory frequencies, called "focus levels", far beyond the etheric to the upper Astral. Also, most importantly, the discipline and process of this method opens up the possibility for other metaphysical abilities, through focus, concentration etc..

So the sensation of hands on my body would also be a clue that it's time to project?

The vibrations or other sensations are a transient phenomena between states of consciousness - physical to etheric. When you experience these sensations stay calm and wait for confirmation you are centred in the etheric, dissociated from the physical body, then you can mentally command or imagine going somewhere, floating, flying etc.. 

Please do share your AP method SoulTraveller- any method that is successful is of interest to everyone.

The sensation of vibrations occurs when conscious awareness transfers from the physical to the etheric vibratory frequency of the personal energy field, and conscious awareness becomes focussed within the "etheric body" which enables the OBE state. If you are expecting to be pulled out of your physical body by other spirits, then that will be the sensation you experience.

Tak. Wonderful post - I always enjoy reading your posts - they have so much feeling and energy behind them. You know of course that all create our own "reality", our experience. Keep dreaming and imagining your most perfect place to live, feeling the joy, excitement etc, believe it is true now, and it surely will become true for you.

The truth that we are never very far away from the joys of nature, if we seek it, reminds me of an experience. 40 or so years ago I attended a computer exhibition in a certain city in the USA. I soon realised that the vibration of the place was through the floor and I was glad I was only there for 3 days. Then the opportunity came to take a short plane trip to the Grand Canyon National Park. When I stepped out of the plane it was like arriving in a whole new world of wonder, with snow on the ground, beautiful animals roaming around, and the sheer majestic sight of the Grand Canyon. Later in that trip I flew on to California and visited the Yosemite National Park which was truly wonderful. So the point is, no matter where we are, or under whatever circumstances, we are never far away from the glory of nature, where we can be close to Source, God.

Tides: I think you mentioned that you live in the Houston area. My two stepsons live in the Woodlands area, which has abundant ways to interact with nature, including nature trails, Conroe Lake and much more, so you wouldn't have to far to travel to find nature to interact with and enjoy. But I am sure you already aware of that.

Well, I'm doing energy work that Robert Bruce taught, and I can feel spirits while wide awake. I'm trying to have fully conscious astral projections, either from a spirit pulling me out or using the rope technique. I haven't had any success doing the rope technique on my own, but I can feel spirits—and my physical hand moves while I'm wide awake when I feel things. So I don't think that'll work if I physically feel the rope, because if I suddenly left my body, my hands would probably flop onto the bed, lol.

So I want to learn how to move my arms without moving my physical arms, so I can still feel the rope.

Well I can offer my views on this.

Projecting using the "rope method" requires considerable concentration and commitment. I certainly would not advise those starting out in non-physical exploration to begin with this method, or at all. These days there are much more effective, and reliable methods available.

An understanding of how these abilities actually work is a good place to begin. The entire Universe is within us, so there is nowhere to project "to" or "from" as we are already there.  When therefore we speak of "out of body experiences" or "astral projection" it is actually an inner projection of consciousness to experience and interact with energy forms at a higher vibratory frequency. Similarly, spirits cannot "pull" you out of your body because you are not actually leaving your body, and other spirits cannot interact in this way anyway..

In practical terms, if you wish to "project" starting from a waking state of consciousness, I recommend that you take a look at a method that has become known as "Phasing" which is a meditative approach to experiencing progressively higher vibratory frequencies called "focus levels".

You can find detailed information about Phasing on Xanth's webpage:

An Easy Guide and a Step By Step Book on Astral Projection

Here you also view/download Xanth's excellent book:

What is Astral Projection, and How To Do It

Also, over a couple of decades ago there was a member, Frank Kepple, who was an expert and highly accomplished at Phasing, who most generously shared a considerable amount of knowledge here on the forum, which can be viewed/downloaded here:

Frank Kepple Phasing Posts

If you have any questions, members here are always happy to help.

Interesting, but scientists are still endeavouring to explain these things in physical science terms. This, along with the ideas of "dimensions", "multiverses", "timelines" etc., none of which actually exist in real terms, is actually, in quantum mechanics, called "Quantum Superposition".

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Ok, due to multiple requests ... 

Both pics are from 2021 from the bathroom window of my house. THe first one was taken when a deer family walked out of the forest into the parallel path leading uphill. (You see 2 on the photo but they were 5-6 or so).
You can see that the forest entry is directly opposite the garden gate, so I really only walk a few metres and am indeed "deep in the woods" after a few seconds.


March 2021:

June 2021:

What a wonderful location Volgerle. Thanks so much for sharing.

Have you considered acquiring a wildlife camera to attach to a tree in the forest so you can automatically photograph the wildlife day and night? I have just purchased one for my property.

Welcome to the Astral Pulse SoulTraveler.

There is a vast repository of knowledge here, and members with the experience and willingness to answer any questions you may have. Perhaps you could expand on your objective to project while wide awake so we can help accordingly.

Wonderful post Tides, thanks for sharing.

It highlights the fact that no matter where we live, there are always opportunities to find a personal aspect of nature close by for meditation, grounding and enjoying oneness with Earth and Spirit.

I live next to a forest. I go out of the garden gate and walk 5 metres into a path and am already in the middle of a forest. I will upload a picture to show it.

What a blessing this is, and I would also enjoy seeing a picture

https://world-enlightenment.com/Tablets-of-Thoth/Tablets-of-Thoth-home.htm

https://archive.org/details/EmeraldTabletsOfThothTheAtlantean_201809/page/n2/mode/1up

This is the version that, as you mentioned in your previous post,

Though it presents itself as an ancient text, it was actually written in the early 20th century by Maurice Doreal, a pseudonym of Claude Doggins, a New Age occultist.

His text may be of interest in its own right, but is not the original text of The Emerald Tablet which  was written thousands of years ago.

["True without falsehood, certain most certainWhat is above is like what is below, and what is below is like that which is above. To make the miracle of the one thing.And as all things were made from the contemplation of The One, so all things were born again from one adaptation.Its Father is the Sun, its Mother is the Moon.The Wind carried it, the Earth nursed it.It is the Father of all works of wonder in the World.Its power is complete.If cast to Earth, it will separate Earth from Fire, the subtle from the gross.With great capacity it ascends from Earth to Heaven. Again it descends to Earth, and takes back the power of the above and below.Thus you will receive the glory of the distinctiveness of the World. All obscurity will flee from you.This is the whole most strong strength of all strength, for it overcomes all subtle things, and penetrates all solid things.Thus the World was created.From this comes marvellous adaptations of which this is the procedure.Therefore I am called Hermes Thrice Crowned, because I have three parts of the wisdom of the whole World.And complete is what I had to say about the work of the Sun".]

I hadn't heard of the "Halls of Amenti", so I looked it up:
In this passage, Thoth introduces the Halls of Amenti as a realm he is about to enter, suggesting a place of transition or preservation of wisdom.

The "Emerald Tablet of Thoth the Atlantean" is a contemporary contrivance, totally unrelated to the original.

This is an article I wrote over 20 years ago on the subject:

The Emerald Tablet of Hermes is an ancient text thought to have been originally found written on a green stone tablet, documenting the nature of the Universe and how it came into being. Although the tablet is "emerald" in colour, it is thought to actually be a green stone such as jade, and the writing was raised in relief as opposed to carved.

It was originally thought to have been discovered by a person by the name of "Balinas", who subsequently wrote down the entire text in the ancient Syriac language, from which it has since been translated into many different languages.

The Emerald Tablet is not only significant from the point of view of describing the process of creation and the nature of the Universe, but is also the basis of alchemy. Contrary to popular belief, alchemy is not necessarily the transmutation of base metals into gold, but rather refers to the ennoblement of the Soul and Spirit on the path to perfection, the ultimate mission of everyone and everything in creation.

Following is a 12th century Latin literal transliteration of the Emerald Tablet of Hermes:

"True without falsehood, certain most certain
What is above is like what is below, and what is below is like that which is above. To make the miracle of the one thing.
And as all things were made from the contemplation of The One, so all things were born again from one adaptation.
Its Father is the Sun, its Mother is the Moon.
The Wind carried it, the Earth nursed it.
It is the Father of all works of wonder in the World.
Its power is complete.
If cast to Earth, it will separate Earth from Fire, the subtle from the gross.
With great capacity it ascends from Earth to Heaven. Again it descends to Earth, and takes back the power of the above and below.
Thus you will receive the glory of the distinctiveness of the World. All obscurity will flee from you.
This is the whole most strong strength of all strength, for it overcomes all subtle things, and penetrates all solid things.
Thus the World was created.
From this comes marvellous adaptations of which this is the procedure.
Therefore I am called Hermes Thrice Crowned, because I have three parts of the wisdom of the whole World.
And complete is what I had to say about the work of the Sun".[/i]

Edit I also included the complete exposition I originally wrote for each line of the text, but later concluded it was not relevant to topic as a whole, so I have removed it. If anyone is interested I can re-post it.

The point is, The Halls of Ementi is very much an ongoing topic of interest, but not in any way related to the Emerald Tablet of Hermes Trismegistus.

I primarily connect with nature by living for most of my life in and around nature.

That said, I absolutely agree with your observations regarding the ionising effect of rain, especially when lightning is present as well. The ionisation effect can be very clearly felt.  The effect of sound of rain embedded in brainwave entrainment audio also very pronounced

On the extremely relevant subject of connecting with nature - thanks for creating a topic on this Tides- another very important aspect of being connected to nature is Grounding, also known as Earthing. The Earth produces a small and subtle electrical charge which the body naturally needs for optimum health. Grounding is also highly beneficial for metaphysical practices, which is one reason meditating in nature in direct contact with the Earth, is so powerful. Lack of natural grounding can be a major cause of such conditions as inflammation, stress etc. In nature, animals are constantly grounded and remain very healthy as a result. Grounding can only take place by the earth charge entering the body through a natural medium, ideally by direct bodily contact with feet, hands etc, or through organic footwear. Decades ago people wore leather soled shoes and cotton socks which which are organic, and facilitated natural grounding while walking outside. Many indigenous peoples around the world, such as the native Americans, walk either barefoot or with footwear made from natural organic materials. These days however shoes have plastic soles, which is an insulator, and socks made out of synthetic materials. Natural grounding can be accomplished by wearing rubber soled shoes and cotton socks which are both organic materials.  Alternatively, it is valuable to spend time each day/week with bare feet standing on grass, for example local park, or barefoot in sand at the beach, or anywhere in nature. The charge from Mother Earth can very clearly be felt. Grounding is a very direct and natural way of connecting with nature with great natural health benefits, especially sitting in meditation in contact with the Earth with bare feet or legs as many do in the far East. Finally I would like to note the power of crystals, especially quartz, which are a powerful gift of nature.

Rather than writing a long post on the subject of grounding, I found this website which seems very informative:

Understanding The Concept of Grounding, aka Earthing

The advantage with having a physical visual of AP Island is that it provides the subconscious mind with a definite object to reference as a target for non-physical exploration. This was one of the main purposes of the visual, unlike, for example, the Halls of Amenti which has no physical equivalent to reference.

It is quite possible to reach AP Island from an etheric/RTZ OBE by bringing the AP Island to Mind based upon memory of the physical image, and commanding going to the Astral equivalent.  In your case it seems that the sleep disturbances from which you project are disturbing your sleep schedule causing an adverse daytime influence on your wellbeing.

Another method of projecting is by Phasing. Phasing, as a meditative approach, provides much more control  over the experience including when to practice it. For projecting to AP Island, the physical image can still be used as a reference target for the subconscious mind to associate with.

You can find detailed information about Phasing on Xanth's webpage:

An Easy Guide and a Step By Step Book on Astral Projection

Here you also view/download Xanth's excellent book:

What is Astral Projection, and How To Do It

Also, over a couple of decades ago there was a member, Frank Kepple, who was an expert and highly accomplished at Phasing, who most generously shared a considerable amount of knowledge here on the forum, which can be viewed/downloaded here:

Frank Kepple Phasing Posts

I would just like to say welcome back to the Astral Pulse Ajay and baro-san. Hope to see more of your excellent contributions here.