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Thanks Lionheart.  I think it was a good idea that you declined to talk about ap to the church.  There are a lot of people that would be anti ap.  You have to be careful who you talk to about it.  When I used to go to sahaja yoga meditation group many months ago, they were anti ap, mediums, fortune tellers etc.  They considered it to be negative and when I talked about ap, the person said to me, you will go down to hell.  I made out that I was not that sort of person and I would never be involved in that type of thing.  I had to make the peace.  That is very interesting about the channeling you talked about.  I wondered about that if you got into ap if that would happen. 

That is very good of you Lionheart to do it for other people.  Not many people would do that.  What are these ap seminars that you run?  Is it a psychic fair, mind body and spirit festival or a course?  I think it is a good idea to charge people.  I do not think it is fair for someone to be out of pocket.  When I went to a meditation course a year ago, they advertised the course as being free but the orgnisors said it will cost $10 for a donation per person as that will cover the cost of the building and all the other things as well.  No one had a problem with it.  I thought it was a good idea.  Nothing in life is free.

Thanks everyone.  I rather have the problem of having a sheet or blanket on me.  I think it would be worse if you could not stand any blankets or sheet on you.

Go through the tunnel.  That is all you have to do.

You are right Lionheart about saying I am aware that I am dreaming and you become aware.  Eventually you become aware that you are dreaming.  It may not happen overnight.  I found you have to believe it as well otherwise it will not work as well or not at all.  I did not realise how effective it can help when you say things.  I have tried it with other things and it helps enormously.  I know Xanth believes in it too.  Thanks for that.  Later on, not now, I am going to say that before I go to sleep.  I have other things that I am currently saying at the moment.

Thank you Xanth and Lionheart.  I am glad it has worked out well for both of you.  We are all different and what works for one person may not work for another.  I never learnt from ap books.  I like reading the books.  It helped to get good ideas.  Anything that sounds complicated I do not read.  I think it is too much work.  I have been to some things, such as a course and an ap group years ago.  I do not regret going to those things because it was a good experiences.  I had fun but it did not help me to ap.  I found the instructors could not ap themselves.  Lionheart as for your gadgets if it makes you feel good then it does not matter.  Who cares what other people think.  Some people buy an expensive car and I think it is a waste of money.  I would never say that to them of course.  Sooner or later it gets scratches and dings in it.

Hey Simo. I have had a goal to visit somebody on almost every OBE I have had and I have had no luck. I think it really does boil down to intention and belief. I will often wish to visit somebody and I end up just standing there. Then I try flying there if the person is close enough and I know where the coordinates are... etc. By the time I get close to there I am already off doing other things. You really have to keep alert. If you find out the trick let me know!

I have been trying for a very long time to see people.  Now I am finally starting to see results.  I am starting to see a person that I want to see.  Every day I have been telling myself I can see who I want to see.  I can go to that location.  It is easy.  I keep saying it again and again.  You really have to believe that you can do it or it does not work.  I found out recently that your awareness has to be good otherwise you can fall into a dream or you wake up.  I knew you could fall into a dream but I did not realise that you could go back into your body.

Thanks Lionheart.  It makes you feel wonderful when you get out.  I bet you felt great after your experience even though it was not what you expected to happen.  It was an experience so that was great and you learn from the experiences.  That would have been freezing being in an icy river.  You knew that nothing can harm you so it helped you a lot.  I feel like I am improving with my ap experiences.  I am starting to go where I want to go to. 

Hi all, during the day I have been saying I am awake, I am extremely aware.  I ap this morning and I felt very aware.  I stayed out of my body for quite a while but later on I lost awareness and I returned to my body.  I thought you would like to know.   I also said during the day, I can see.  I do not have a problem with sight now as I can always see when I am out of my body.

It sounds like your obe turned into a dream.

I do not see anything wrong to ap in the sp state.  I used to do it a lot when I used to sp.  You do not have to get sp to see awful things.  You could be meditating and you can see awful things.  When you see awful things do not worry about it.  It cannot hurt you.  I have seen awful things but I did not let that stop me to ap.  I rarely see awful things now.

This morning I went back into the past and I saw my children when they were little.  I do not know for sure if it was real or not.  It looked real so I think it was.  I did not intend to go back into time.  It happens when it wants to happen.  If I had my way I would only want to see the present.  I read in a book that you can go back into time.  You just say what year and where you want to be and you will be there.

Great, fantastic for you.  You will be feeling wonderful for the rest of the day.

Hi all, this morning I was imagining something and I ap there.  I remembered to get myself aware.  I was feeling groggy, still half asleep.  I kept saying I am aware.  I was feeling my hands, face and the walls.  For some reason I said I can see.  I should not have said that, my physical eyes opened and I woke up.  I will keep practicing and I will read Xanth's article again.

Not being able to see or see very well is a common problem.  It is easily fixed.  All you have to say is, I can see or as the book says clarity now.  It does not matter what you say so long as the message gets across.  Keep saying I can see until you can see very well just like you would physically.
I never had that problem about the eye lids.  Try to ignore it and keep saying I can see.  Do not pay any attention to your eye lids and in time it should go away.
I am still having problems going where I want to go to.  I am working on it so it is probably best that I do not advise you on that.

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I end up all over the place as well.  I have no intention of going there.  I could end up in another country, underwater or anywhere.  That is something I have to work on to improve that.  Say where you want to go to before you end up at some place.  That is what I have to start doing. 
It should be possible to meet that angel like figure but I have no experience in doing that.  I read that you say I am with the angel now but you have to believe it will happen and you keep saying it until it happens.

Hi all, you do you want to hear something stupid?  I am not afraid seeing scary things or anything else that may happen.  What I am afraid of is not having a sheet or blanket on me when I am lying down.  Even in the hot weather I have to have a sheet on me because I do not feel safe without it.  I have always been like that ever since I was little.  This morning it prevented me from aping because I thought the blanket was off me.  I have to not let it worry me.  I do not expect any replies.  I am just letting you know how silly it is.

Thanks Xanth, I will do both, rubbing my hands together and getting more aware.  I love the forum.  It is great helping each other and getting new ideas.

Wow, ten years to ap.  Most people would have given up.  Xanth why did it take you a long time to ap?  Was it because you read a lot of false information about ap?  I am just curious.

I loved watching the flying around in the video.  I do not think aping is that simple.  There are a lot of things that can get in the way of aping and things do not happen as we like them to happen.  There is a lot of learning to do to get things right and even then it is easy to mess things up.

I agree with you zareste about what you said on the internet.  You said you have not ap for 15 years.  That would turn most people off ap and they would understandably think that they cannot ap.  The main requirement to ap is you must believe you can ap.  If you think you cannot ap, it makes it very difficult to ap.

Thanks roman67.  I appreciate it.  I am looking forward to ap again.  I most probably will ap in the morning if I do not wreck it.  I know what to do but at times I do the wrong thing.  The more practice I get the better I will get.  Hopefully that will be the case. 

You said you believe in ap but do you believe you can ap?  It helps a lot if you believe you can ap.  Perhaps your mind is not relaxed.  When my mind is not relaxed I cannot ap.  You could listen to the beats that people talk about.  I listen to the sounds of the wind, ocean and thunder.  I would not read anymore about it as I do not think it will help you.  It will only frustrate you.  You need to practice and to keep telling yourself that you can ap everyday even if you do not ap.  Eventually it will get into your mind and you will start to believe that you can ap and it will start working for you.

That would be disappointing for you.  What a nuisance.  It would be great when you finally have it again.

Thanks again everyone, I really appreciate the information.

Hi all, I think I read that to stay out of your body you keep looking at your hands.  Is that right?  Is that what you do?  Lately I have been going out of my body and a later on I get zapped back into myself again.  It is quite frustrating.  I know that emotions such as being excited, talking too loudly, wondering around aimlessly etc can send you back into your body but as far as I know I have not done anything like that.  I was pulled back into my body when I heard someone calling me.  I was a bit surprised.  The other time I was just about to say where I want to go to and I got zapped back into myself.  Thanks for your replies.