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Quote from: Lionheart on March 18, 2013, 18:14:41Rvcode, I can answer one of those questions for you.The L3 programs is one that I wrote with the help of Leaves.There is no "link" to it, because it is just on my computer.The rest of your questions can be answered by other people using the device. You have most likely read my views on it here already.I wish to hear other people's opinion of it as well!
Quote from: bluremi on March 18, 2013, 14:14:09I have not found my AVS machine (Procyon) to be very helpful. I think this is a problem with me and my expectations rather than the product itself. To get a "non-physical focus" like Lionheart describes I think you have to be able to achieve that focus on your own. Then the AVS machines will help you get there much faster.I can't maintain the focus and tend to fall asleep, which I imagine a great majority of people who try to consciously reach that stage do as well. This is a problem with my own abilities and says nothing about the effectiveness of the device. The Procyon is so effective, actually, that it makes me pass out into a stupor during the middle of the day when I am wide awake.Right now I am focusing on developing the focus and technique necessary to achieve the Phase on my own. Once I am able to do it consistently this device should make it a much faster process.
Quote from: Little Bibble on March 22, 2013, 09:35:33One thing I might add (which I noticed when looking at it in Laxedit) is that you have not put a return back up to beta waves at the end. Maybe the laxman does it automatically but if not I think this is really important to do so it. I've attended several TMI courses and they really make a big thing about being grounded after an exercise.
Quote from: enlightnd on March 24, 2013, 20:44:23@lionheart - I haven't read threw all these posts but do you use this device every time you go to phase now?? Or just every now an then to experiment differences ?
Quote from: leavesofgrass on April 20, 2013, 14:48:51Hey Lion!Hope all is well with you. I have been busy with the baby hence not a lot of action on the Pulse lately. But I wanted to ask you, have you ever floated? Cheers.
Quote from: Fairywindblues on May 02, 2013, 20:53:04Plus, they come with their own set of unique glasses. Mixing and matching sounds fun to me.
Quote from: Lionheart on May 03, 2013, 00:20:52 Frequent Flier, I'm kind of baffled how you create an opinion on the Laxman when you haven't ever used.
Quote from: Fairywindblues on May 15, 2013, 23:40:31Okay guys, I am back, with news!I basically bought a refurbished Laxman, Proteus, and Procyon for the price of what the Laxman costs at retail price. Good old ebay bargain hunting. All seem to work, too. So yeah, I got them all super cheap. Here's what I have to say about mind machines: THEY ARE ALL BEAUTIFUL. Laxman pros:It has a full spectrum of colors, it lets you put whatever frequency (including base frequency) that you want, it is the best out of any machine that I've tried for getting the ganzfeld effect, it has the prettiest visuals, open/closed eye, you can adjust blinking/as well as brightness, and it is the brightest machine that I have. Sometimes, I like to completely turn off blinking and just stare into the colors. Imagine finding yourself in a virtual reality scene where you're in a room that's made up of only one color - it's neat, and quite relaxing! Things seem to be without depth, also. You just sore of stare off into a colorful void and it's actually quite relaxing.Also, it has nice background music, and lets you choose the frequency you want, with/or without an mp3 of your choice. Also, these are BRIGHT. I'd say these goggles are brighter than the Procyon for sure, and brighter than the Proteus by far (although the Proteus is a good second choice if you're after brightness). The brighter the machine, it seems, the more complex the geometry and patterns become. And, the Laxman, out of all my three machines, is the brightest shining star of the lot. The Proteus is pretty bright, though, and it's cheap. It doesn't compare to the blazing brightness of the Laxman, though. The Laxman seems to show me the flower of life, and other beautiful geometrical patterns, a lot. Cons: Kind of bulky and sometimes hurts your eyes when you don't expect the light to get quite so intense.Honestly, aside from that, I can't find many cons for this, so I'm going to go on to the next one.Proteus pros:It has two colors, which is nice. Red and green. Red is more stimulating, green is more relaxing. I see shades of blue, white, orange, and yellow sometimes. All in all, this machine is GREAT because it's brighter than the Procyon (its much more expensive successor). The Proteus has 8 total flashing LEDs (four on each eye), while the Procyon only has 6 (three on each eye). Anyways, another pro are the lightweight glasses. It's a very relaxing machine, indeed. There's no fancy background music like in the Laxman, and it has a lot of beeping-type binaural beats, but it's still relaxing on the mind.Cons: Only two colors. Also, could be more diverse on the binaural beats/sounds, but it's not bad at all. Procyon pros: Has three colors: RGB, which are BEAUTIFUL when joined in unison. It's a simply marvelous device. The blue really makes the device stand out from the Proteus. Lightweight sunglasses-type glasses, again. Typical binaural beats, with beeping, as with the Proteus and many other machines -- if you want binaural beats + serene ambient music, hook up your own music via CD player or seek the Laxman. The Laxman has built in tranquil and serene MP3s that you can mix and match with the binaural frequencies.The Procyon is more like the Laxman than the Proteus is, in the sense that the three colors RGB, when patterned a certain way, create the rainbow, as they blend and mesh into each other. I saw reds, oranges, purples, greens, blues, whites, yellows, etc. you name it. This baby will flash the rainbow right in front of your eyes, much like the Laxman will, minus the bulky swimming-goggle feel. Plus, at less than half the cost of the Laxman (you can find it for $260 or so), this would be the light machine I'd go for if I couldn't afford the Laxman and it's customizable luxuries.Cons:It's not as bright as the Proteus, which is its one downfall. Brighter is better. Better visuals the brighter the machines are. If the Procyon were a bit brighter, it would be perfect. One could also say that if the Proteus had a blue channel, then it'd be perfect. Ah, guess you can't have it both ways.If you want to buy the much cheaper Proteus (I see used ones going on ebay for $100-120 sometimes), just know that they come with red/green glasses, but you can buy the alternative red/blue glasses separately, online, sort of making it almost as brilliant as the Procyon, at half the cost. Then, if you want to throw some blue into the lot, you can just switch out glasses. I'm thinking of ordering these RB glasses myself, because I'm interested in seeing the lovely shade of blue paired with the four LEDs of the Proteus. All in all, no matter what machine you go for, it will be lovely, no matter what. In fact, I love all my machines, now. Picking a favorite or a least favorite is hard, because they're all like my babies, now . They all have advantages and disadvantages, and I feel like they're all amazing in their own unique ways. So all in all, I have concluded that....Go for the Laxman if you have cash, because there's no way you will be disappointed. Full spectrum of rainbow colors, customizable MP3 sessions, nice tones, you can set the brightness/blinking, you can adjust the binaural beats, mix and match the existing mp3s and sessions, etc. It's so beautiful, and bright, and everything I dreamed it would be. If you want a pretty machine that gives a rainbow effect, for cheaper, go for the Procyon. The RGB combo does translate as a full spectrum rainbow, behind closed eyes. If you want something super cheap, though, and brighter than the Procyon, and can live without the blue tone being added in, then the Proteus is great. If you have $50 to dish out for red/blue glasses, that would make it cooler. I haven't tried the Micro Beat Mini, Sirius, Mindspa, or some of the others, but in case I do... I will keep you guys posted. For me, it's not really a matter of which mind machine is the best. It's a matter of which one is gonna be next to add to my collection, because I'm now completely addicted to these beautiful devices.