Dangers of Kundalini

[SomeBloke]

I am currently reading Gopi Krishna's autobiography - 'Living With Kundalini'

I'm not far into it, but I'd already say it was a 'must read'.

One reviewer says:

"Gopi Krishna's description of the changes - psychological, physical, perceptual and biochemical - which can happen to a person who is in the process of an accelerated spiritual emergence process was the first definitive work written for the Western world about kundalini awakening.  This new book should be a great comfort to those trying to comprehend the process."
- Emma Bragdon

[BirdManKalki]

Sorry about the length

I have premature kundalini awakening but I am through the worse stages. I searched the Internet for websites that might be able to help me http://www.kundaliniyoga.org/classes.html was one of the first websites I went to and I joined their yahoo group. After awhile of studying their messages and teachings, I decided to try and help someone who asked about astral projection. At this time in life I was rather venerable, ripe for manipulation but I kept my wits about me.  
 
If anyone knows about astral projection, how can one be sure to stay with the
body?

The following is another message that was posted

I want to awaken my charkras to progress in my astral projection
practices, I hope I can learn that in this room, by doing Kundalini
Yoga, hello everyone

These questions where allowed on the message board

I answered the questions, as somewhat as follows, below is the second message this is word for word because they blocked my first message, which I no longer have.

My message as follows

You are connected with the body via your silver cord also when you
project you create a copy of mind so you have one mind that is still
in your body and a seccond mind that is in your projected double.
This is known as the mind split effect so you are protected from
negitive entitys. My last message about astral projection was
Blocked because it wasnt a question about Kundalanin. im sorry if I
can help anyone then I'll help anyone with any question that I
believe I can answer. I believe one cannot be true and know the
Truth unless one searches multiple paths and finding how all paths
Lead to the same truth.
>  
> Love and Light to all  
> Brad aka Birdman

This is how they responded

Brad,
Now you are questioning the way we run this list and you want me to
approve. I think not. As I told you the last time we are about
Kundalini Yoga as taught by Yogi Bhajan. We are not a group
discussing various paths. I would have approved your brief comments
on Astral Projection but you decided to preach. Maybe you should
start your own list if you feel we are so closed minded.
Mehtab Singh

Was that preaching? You decide they can talk the talk but can they walk the walk?

In my humble opinion they are frauds. I think that they blocked my message because I mentioned other paths and that I now know that all paths lead to the same truth. I think that they where worried they may lose followers because it would have caused individual thinking on behalf of their readers. I am writing a book on the experiences that i whent trough and the realisations that i have encountered. I know old truths that will emerge again as new truths that will change the world. Physics will be fliped on its head. Big words that i will not at this time elaborate on.  

A few of their quotes

" 'God' also has so many meanings and is a very misunderstood concept. A Spiritual path is about experiencing this reality concept."

" Yoga Bhajan always tells us that our biggest problem is that we think of god is outside ourselves. The purpose of a spiritual practice is to experience the infinite within our own being and to connect our individual psyche with the universal psyche. (One definition of god)"

"The majority of the world is nothing but show business. You put on a show. And spirituality is nothing but a show. No human believes that they are a fact of life, a fact of existence, that they are real; that they are born in the image of God. The most magnificent Allah, most infinite God Jehovah, most pure, wise Lord Buddha, whatever you want to call your God, has created you in His own image and this is it. So God in the New Age is called He-She-It; He, She, and It. And if you don't understand the totality of God as He, She, and It, then you are excrement."

The words of the spiritually enlightened Yoga Bhajan.
If they where true to their teachings they would have approved my post.        

The Birdman

[pod3]

In pranic healing, it is preferrable to use the most subtle energy possible in order to prevent violent reactions. It strikes me that the "fire" being channeled is not refined and that, if people were ready to
recieve it, there would be no emotional problems to amplify.

Also, if when this is done properly, this results in the spiritualization of the physical body, wouldn't it be dangerous to use methods from someone who has not evidenced this?

[Mystic Cloud]

quote:Originally posted by BirdManKalki

The words of the spiritually enlightened Yoga Bhajan.
If they where true to their teachings they would have approved my post.        

I feel that a LOT of those wannabe 'spiritual' idiots seem like
that. If they would be true to themselves they would have sensed
your K being awaken and that being the real reason behind your post.

When I read your post I remembered the feeling from last summer when
I did the same thing. I also had somekind of spontanous awakening.
ticked alot of people off [] Especially the secret goverment (if
there even is one)

[narfellus]

I have several new theories on Kundalini yoga i want to share. First of all, we know that the practice is VERY old, many thousand and thousands of years. In the past, the veil of human consciousness has thinned and thickened for various reasons. In the past it could take a yogi his entire life to reach enlightenment, if ever. Over the centuries, through repeated reincarnations and the gradual spiritual evolution of the human race, we have in part earned a higher degree of spiritual awakening.

I think in part that this means it is somewhat easier to achieve enlightment than it used to be, or at least doesn't take as long. Ka energy meridian stimulation sounds very similar to awakening the kundalini, and there are many books about that sort of christ consciousness.

I figure it is worth investgating everything though and figuring out what works best for the individual. Personally, i dont' want to do yoga 2 or 3 hours a day, but some people do. I think our paths can take us to the same destination, just at different speeds.

[SomeBloke]

I think in part that this means it is somewhat easier to achieve enlightment than it used to be, or at least doesn't take as long

According to the theory of 'yugas' we have recently entered Dwapara yuga from Kali yuga in the equinoctial cycle, so yes people who incarnate here generally have less far to travel than people a few hundred years ago.  And thousands of years into the future in Satya yuga, people who will incarnate will have an innate high degree of enlightenment.

Check out the quote at:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12891

[Reality]

I don't think it's a good idea to anticipate enlightment, or wonder how long it's gonna take you...

It's not exactly a mechanical process, or is it?

Reality[]

[Mystic Cloud]

quote:Originally posted by Reality

I don't think it's a good idea to anticipate enlightment, or wonder how long it's gonna take you...

It's not exactly a mechanical process, or is it?

Reality[]

HEHE, straight to the point. No extra #"!%"# tourist attractions
added [] Keep it going! [8D]

[SomeBloke]

I don't think it's a good idea to anticipate enlightment, or wonder how long it's gonna take you...

A fortnight on Tuesday's good for me! []

I know what you mean, but the idea is that if say Earth is in Satya yuga 10,000 years from now, the beings that incarnate here would generally be much more spiritually advanced than in our current age.  For us, if at that time we didn't fit the bill we would incarnate somewhere else more appropriate to our level of development.  The actual cycles are supposedly of fixed durations, so yes they are mechanical in that sense.  Of course, there's no proof of this - but it's what the ancient rishis of India wrote.

[narfellus]

I've been researching some of the differences between shamanistic lore and kundalini, and i am rather SCARED by the implications of both.

http://www.kundalini.se/eng/engkni.html

The link above is fairly long and intricate, but it seems to say for the most part that raising the Fire Serpent has a good chance of driving you insane or dead or lost in an etherealm. It even mentions that bodily eruption is possible (which sounds eerily like the unproven "spontaneous combustion."

I, like many persons on these boards, am very interested in the esoteric secrets of our world, but the paths seem riddled with such large obstacles i wonder if the effort if worth it. Psychosis, hallucinations, mental disorder, visions, and other irreprable brain damage can be a likely side effect of your brain channeling more energy that it is ready to handle.

I know there are experienced shamans and kundalists who can shed more light on this, but my questions seem to lie more with SHOULD i follow this route and the risks involved? How does one know if it is right for them? How do you know your will and strength are strong enough to endure the tests without losing everything until you try?

What is the price of secret knowledge? Sheez, no wonder the Easterners kept this so wrapped up...