How to get motivated when having trouble in n.e.w.

[cesm23]

I mean, i noticed that i actually like doing n.e.w. or any energy work at all, if i am able to actually feel something on the places i am working. And i notice this happens mostly in my left side of the body, in all parts of the right side of my body is very very hard to actually get any feeling at all when doing any energy work at all and this makes the practise of energy work VERY frustating because it's always like i am doing nothing at all, since i feel absolutly nothing... i mean how can i know if it really actually doing something or not to help to develop the energy pathways if i feel absolutly nothing? Because like this, energy work here is almost like "torture" and i can't stand doing it longer than 5 minutes at all...

What you guys recommend, let's suppose i do a general brushing action along the entire right leg and right arm, instead of doing all the labourous energy work that is said on n.e.w. which is INCREDIBLY boring and almost like torture if done when feeling nothing at all because it always gives me the impression that like this i am doing nothing at all.

If i do that general brushing action like that, for only a few minutes, several times a day, would it have the same effect than doing the complete work in every joints (which usually lasts about 1 hour and half in my case in the VERY few times i had enought patience to reach the end) daily ? I really hope there is such shortcut... anyone had experience with this already?

[kurtykurt42]

I have a white board in my kitchen and I write my energy body objectives on it. So, every time I walk in there I see it and begin doing the full body energy circuit for about 5-10 min. I try to do about 60-90 min of full body circuit per day in order to raise my energy for healing and astral projection.

[Tiny]

Because like this, energy work here is almost like "torture" and i can't stand doing it longer than 5 minutes at all...

You certainly won't get very far if your brain constantly urges you to go do something "fun". It is the curse upon our society thanks to the push of movies and video games etc.

Tame your mind, like you would tame a chained hungry hellhound.

The feeling of boredom is but an illusion imposed by the mind that you can get rid of.


I get a lot of tingling sensations in my feet and lower legs, my energy body seems to be strong there, but I feel little, almost nothing on my back where I've had pain and emotional tension built up.

[cesm23]

You certainly won't get very far if your brain constantly urges you to go do something "fun". It is the curse upon our society thanks to the push of movies and video games etc.

Tame your mind, like you would tame a chained hungry hellhound.

The feeling of boredom is but an illusion imposed by the mind that you can get rid of.


I get a lot of tingling sensations in my feet and lower legs, my energy body seems to be strong there, but I feel little, almost nothing on my back where I've had pain and emotional tension built up.

Yes i know about that BUT remember, this problem doesn't happen much on the left side of my body, where i get good feelings when doing n.e.w. I am not too sure if it's just "The feeling of boredom is but an illusion imposed by the mind that you can get rid of." or if it's just my mind being EXTREMELY "afraid" of wasting time on this and not doing any energy work at all, because not feeling anything on the right limbs, that's the problem... (note that of course my right limbs aren't completly dead there is specific spots that do respond a bit to energy work, i just mean in the whole limbs as general) Unless when we do energy work in limbs and feeling absolutly nothing, it IS always doing some kind of energy work at all ? Or is it possible that i am doing it wrong? Because everytime i do energy work in parts i feel absolutly nothing, i find myself trying a bit too hard and i happen to tense my head muscles physically without noticing, even tough i know this should be all mental.

I try to do about 60-90 min of full body circuit per day in order to raise my energy for healing and astral projection.

Oh you mean, that is the total sum of several sessions of 5-10 min like you say, during the day ?

Anyways maybe it's a good idea doing several small sessions of energy work during the day, instead of a half hour and half of doing the complete energy work in my arms or legs ? I noticed that the very few times i was able to do ALL n.e.w. complete energy work sections for my arms OR legs, i noticed that i was kinda tired (i needed to hyperventilate a few times) and of course it was almost like i was doing something forced/tortured, i don't know if it's such a good idea doing all those exercices in a single session, maybe it's better split each part of the session during the day ? For example, i do 5 minutes of hands energy work, then later i do 5 minutes of arm joints energy work, etc etc. I already found out that doing n.e.w. very briefly (5 minutes maximum) it is a lot less "torture", but i remember people in the past advising me to do this in a single session instead of several small ones... does this really have a difference when it's about developing the energy body ?

[LadySegesta]

I just got started with the N.E.W. energy practices last night. I'm 17, so you'd expect me to be bored of just practicing the energy exercizes, right? Wrong. I'm still having trouble even getting close to astral projecting, but combined with my strong desire to astral project and the slight tingling sensation I get in a certain part of my body that's responding to my practices with the N.E.W. energy raising practices, etc. I actually get more excited than bored. So maybe you should just keep your goals/desire for APg/mastering astral projection while you do the N.E.W. in mind? That's what's helping me. Maybe it'll help you get outta that boredom phase.

[cesm23]

well... my problem is not exactly lack of motivation about the astral projection and other psychic abilities, because i really have a HUGE motivation for psychic abilities, the problem is that i am not so sure if n.e.w. is REALLY going to help a lot on that because nothing else worked so far and even tough you get tingling, in my right side of the body in most surfaces of my legs and arms i fell nothing that's why it's so difficult to me for staying doing this for more than 2-3 minutes! Of course that when i get tinging and i actually feel the awareness actions itselfs i am a lot more motivated, but i can't just work on the left side of my body because of this.

[LadySegesta]

hmm... maybe next time you try the N.E.W. energy exercises, try practicing them on the less responsive side first? Also, sometimes your chakras respond better to one type of exercise than another. For example, the chakras on my body seem to respond faster to the 'Stirring Motion' than to the 'Brushing Motion'. So, either practice on the less responsive side first next time OR just move on to the next exercise as Bruce himself suggests. Also keep in mind the variety of sensations you get as you raise your energy body levels through his energy exercise, which include pressure, warmth, cold, heaviness, tingling, or buzzing. Perhaps you may have gotten one of these on your less responsive side and just don't quite notice it? If you feel something on your less responsive side that's like one of sensations I listed, I'd suggest you focus your self on that feeling as perhaps it could be one of those aforementioned sensations. That's what I did when I thought one of my energy center wasn't responding, though then I realized that it was occuring, but just took a while to develop. That may also just be your case as well?

[cesm23]

hmm... maybe next time you try the N.E.W. energy exercises, try practicing them on the less responsive side first?

Well that's obvious, altough i always do in both sides, like it says in the n.e.w. manual.

Also, sometimes your chakras respond better to one type of exercise than another. For example, the chakras on my body seem to respond faster to the 'Stirring Motion' than to the 'Brushing Motion'. So, either practice on the less responsive side first next time OR just move on to the next exercise as Bruce himself suggests.

Hum... very interesting i haven't tought about that... i can try that...

Also keep in mind the variety of sensations you get as you raise your energy body levels through his energy exercise, which include pressure, warmth, cold, heaviness, tingling, or buzzing. Perhaps you may have gotten one of these on your less responsive side and just don't quite notice it?

Yeah i notice this mostly at the joints, but in the middle of the forearm and between the elbow and shoulder for example i feel absolutly nothing, it's just like i am not doing any energy work at all, which is very frustating.

If you feel something on your less responsive side that's like one of sensations I listed, I'd suggest you focus your self on that feeling as perhaps it could be one of those aforementioned sensations. That's what I did when I thought one of my energy center wasn't responding, though then I realized that it was occuring, but just took a while to develop. That may also just be your case as well?

Hum... how much time (days) it took you to notice changes ? Several months ago i did like this :

During 15 days i did the full arm and full leg work, and i mean ALL the exercices in the legs and arms, each time i did it it took about 1 hour and half to finish all exercices in both arms or in both legs. I usually did the complete arm work in one day, then the complete leg work in the next day, and so on, because it was really a LOT of effort and i always had a lot of needing to hyperventilate after doing this... After i did this daily about 15 days but then i had to quit, because even at that time this was already somekind of torture and i did this until i could stand, and after all those days i was begging all the time to stop this And after about 15 days i couldn't stand anymore and i quit, and of course the lack of any changes in the sensations i got made things even worse, if i had felt better energy movement and feeelings maybe i was more motivated to go on, but it just felt like it was doing absolutly nothing since in my entire limbs the energy sensations i got were exactly the same as they were before i started those 15 days of daily new...

Is it normal that it takes a lot more time than 15 days to notice any change in the energy sensations ? Or this proves that i did something wrong ?

[CFTraveler]

I mean, i noticed that i actually like doing n.e.w. or any energy work at all, if i am able to actually feel something on the places i am working. And i notice this happens mostly in my left side of the body, in all parts of the right side of my body is very very hard to actually get any feeling at all when doing any energy work at all and this makes the practise of energy work VERY frustating because it's always like i am doing nothing at all, since i feel absolutly nothing... i mean how can i know if it really actually doing something or not to help to develop the energy pathways if i feel absolutly nothing? Because like this, energy work here is almost like "torture" and i can't stand doing it longer than 5 minutes at all...

Then don't do it more than 5 minutes.  If you're not sure it's doing anything, and absolutely need the feedback to feel motivated, get into trance first and then do it, but not a lot for a long time.

What you guys recommend, let's suppose i do a general brushing action along the entire right leg and right arm, instead of doing all the labourous energy work that is said on n.e.w. which is INCREDIBLY boring and almost like torture if done when feeling nothing at all because it always gives me the impression that like this i am doing nothing at all.

About the work as it is presented- you don't have to do all that laborious stuff every time- you do 'every single inch' at first because it activates the whole shebang and it teaches you how to do it.  But once you've done it a few times (like a week) general sponging/brushing should be enough, and if you still don't want to do any of it, do sponging on your arms and legs and a full body circuit- this even covers the chakras.

The whole point of NEW is not to bore you or to make you become 'energy superhero' with all that work- it is to teach you body awareness and to get a feel for when there is a problem.  So if you already have identified a problem (one side more reactive than the other) you can do something to feel more balanced, even if using other things, like adding an element to the 'nonresponsive' side, or just doing it for about as long as the other side, and get done with it and on with your life.

If i do that general brushing action like that, for only a few minutes, several times a day, would it have the same effect than doing the complete work in every joints (which usually lasts about 1 hour and half in my case in the VERY few times i had enought patience to reach the end) daily ? I really hope there is such shortcut... anyone had experience with this already?

You don't do the joints every time, not even more than a week, unless you have a joint problem.  So no worries.

One thing about new is that it is handy for when you're trying to reach trance and are prone to falling asleep.  So it's good to know how to do it, but for gawrsh's sake, you don't have to do it every time.  No one does.

[cesm23]

Then don't do it more than 5 minutes.  If you're not sure it's doing anything, and absolutely need the feedback to feel motivated, get into trance first and then do it, but not a lot for a long time.

Just to clear things up, getting into trance, is just staying completly still without moving any part of the body for some time ?

About the work as it is presented- you don't have to do all that laborious stuff every time- you do 'every single inch' at first because it activates the whole shebang and it teaches you how to do it.  But once you've done it a few times (like a week) general sponging/brushing should be enough, and if you still don't want to do any of it, do sponging on your arms and legs and a full body circuit- this even covers the chakras.

wait a minute... that means i interpreted incorrectly what robert bruce said, see this is why i make this posts i, for example i tough he meant that the labourious work was for activating those nonresponsible areas, but if you say it's just to learn how to do the awareness actions better then how could i knew this, thanks for the clarification, the problem here is that usually i interpret things differently, probably also because my native language isn't english.

The whole point of NEW is not to bore you or to make you become 'energy superhero' with all that work- it is to teach you body awareness and to get a feel for when there is a problem.  So if you already have identified a problem (one side more reactive than the other) you can do something to feel more balanced, even if using other things, like adding an element to the 'nonresponsive' side, or just doing it for about as long as the other side, and get done with it and on with your life.

Well, i think it says in the manual that the point of new is to make the body respond better and have better energy flow?

thanks for the help by the way

[CFTraveler]

Well, if you speak spanish I can speak it too.
Yes, all this is to activate all places, and after you've been doing it for a while you can use it to activate nonresponsive areas.  But you don't have to do all of it every time.  He has said that more than once in his workshops, and in a post or two at AD.  It was also in the old version of the AD website, but I don't know if it is in the new one, since he keeps changing it and IDK if I'm coming or going.

Just to clear things up, getting into trance, is just staying completly still without moving any part of the body for some time ?

No.  He does not recommend this and neither do I.  That's the easiest way to fall asleep.  Without getting too much into detail, you should do trance mental exercises to achieve a trance.  In MAP he gives a series of instructions on what to do to achieve it.  I think I just wrote a whole thing for another post, which is how I do it, but it was Robert and Brian who taught me, and I adapted my own stuff to it.

Of course, the point of NEW is to make the body respond and improve energy flow- that's what all energy work is for.  The difference (besides the fact that it is a tactile system) is that the energy is moved all along the body instead of only the chakras, like most other systems.
However, the system as it is laid out, teaches you how to do everything, but the purpose of it is not to make you do all of it every single time, because once you've 'got it', simply putting your awareness wherever you want should be enough to activate it, even if it doesn't feel that way, and that I know, is another theme.

[cesm23]

(welll i understand english a lot better than spanish believe me, since my native language is portuguese, i know it's similar to spanish but still i have trouble understading spanish)

oh i see... that means the idea i had about trance is COMPLETLY wrong, i have no idea what is like to be in trance or "you should do trance mental exercises to achieve a trance." then ... lol i have to check MAP then, even tough a quick description would be better rather than searching the complete book I ask this because some of the trance meditation techniques i found on the net, the way i interpreted i tought it was like i said, that means they are wrong, hence why i need this clarification.

[CFTraveler]

Ha ha I know what you mean about spanish and portuguese, they sound alike it confuses the brain into trying to understand it in my primary language.  The same thing happens to me- when I hear portuguese, it's like I know what they're saying but I can't say anything back that doesn't sound retarded.
I'll look for some trance techs for you if I can.

[Stookie]

Just to add a bit to what CFTraveler said: once you've become accustom to the sensations from a full-body circuit, all you have to do to bring it back is imagine those sensations again. It doesn't take near as much concentration as it does in the beginning and becomes much easier to do in random places, like waiting in line at the bank.

[Tiny]

Dear cesm23,

I hope this will help you.

Something about trance from my experience:

I found that there are two components to it. One's own consciousness internally must be willing to leg go completly while simultaneously the body must be willing to let go aswell. These two components are essential in order for trance to work.
Sometimes the body (mind+body that is) just won't not let go and and when you try to force it to let go for a good while, the body will usually give up and bow to your will though it can really take a lot of time sometimes. It may take like 40 minutes or longer to go into a proper trance because you might just have consumed some food that contained chemicals (=programming agents) that would program the body to be unwilling to let go (like coffeine).
I found that when the body lets go and lowers the brainwaves, some annoying illusions are switched off such as the illusion of boredom, loneliness and sometimes fear.
This is why some tasks are definatly easier under the trance state, including energy work. Tai Chi is an incredible experience in a light trance state.
I recommend doing some stretching exercises especially for spine and legs, this will help the body letting go.

It is my experience that it definatly won't work when I try to force a kind of stillness into my mind. What you need to do instead, is to let go, and feel yourself sinking into your [whatever you're sitting/lying on]. If your body is in a proper state, it will respond to your signal and let go aswell.
Now feel your brainwaves, the electricity in your brains becoming slower and slower, and with every moment that passes feel yourself diving deeper into yourself. I don't believe in visualizing anything at this point, I just allow myself to sink and sink further.
I usually reality check a lot during this process, trying to realize my current "depth" like a submarine because for me atleast, the diving can sometimes go so fast that I would completly lose consciousness. Often I lose consciousness completly for a split moment.

As you can see, I prefer the tactile over anything else. I don't understand why people visualize so much as I find it much easier my way, but of course I can't be certain if not visualization would actually work better for other people.
For me, the inner realm is much deeper than visuals and sound - it is raw tactile. It is only that sometimes my mind will try to convert these tactile impulses into visual representations by associating them with visuals familiar in life.


Above all, it is clear that letting go and programming the mind and body to let go aswell is the key to unlock inner doors.



peace

[CFTraveler]

I found some handy-dandy trance techs that may be of help to you, and the last one is the breakdown to how I do it.  It does mention some trance techniques also.

Trance techs
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/trance_technique-t30094.0.html;msg243928#msg243928

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics/technique_central-t19294.0.html;msg166534#msg166534

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics/technique_central-t19294.0.html;msg242679#msg242679

[cesm23]

ok thanks i will check them out