A Black Spell

[IronWire]

quote:Originally posted by Moonburn33

somebody prove me wrong.

no really, offer up a different argument

Nah, I saw your point about 5 posts ago. []

[Haematite]

quote:if you were a fish you would only be able to infer about land. you are a human and are only able to guess about the universe.

That's what I mean - we could only guess about highest dimensions but that doesn't mean they don't exist. We, human beings, are supposed to develop ourselves and to search about Truth.

quote:and how do you know that the laws you believe in are universal?

As I said I believe everything in Universe is connected in one system. For example the movement of stars reflects and has always been reflecting to everything - from worldwide disasters to single person's life.

quote:yes, it is math- it's just that it can't be predicted unless you have the thousands and thousands of variables that make up destiny, karma or whatever you want to call it. it's so constantly changing and specific that it would take a lifetime to study one person's.. karma.

Actually it takes a lot of lifetimes to think over one's karma[] If it could took only few hours or days we would be at the end of our Paths... You know, it could be a bit simple if you think more: that "karma-equation" is universal and if a person is "x" in it that means it'll variate a lot (as people are different) and everyone is responsible for it's solution - it could be faster, or it could be slower if you use roundabout ways...if it's too long you'll have to "shift" it on next line and that means you're doing reincarnate...If you look up at your mistakes you'll be able to solute it faster...And of course if you try to see karma like equation you should try to see it like n-dimensional one[]

Heh, that example might be very stupid and incomplete - I'm sorry about that - but you'll understand me anyway if you use your intuituon[]
Be safe

[Kiflarer]

hi all... thats right its me... Kenny AKA Kiflarer but id rather call myself Rayko... when i wrote this spell it was long ago and the background of it is a suggestion of my friend he wanted to kill a bully so i did this... i changed... i have become aware of what i could do to myself and other people i realy apoligize myself for this

(YES I AM SCHIZOFRENIC i cant help it i got 2 personalities... must be becouse i always am a nice guy but cant show my angryer side... but yet... Rayko has always been here for me when in trouble so i call my schizofrenia as a blessing[])

[Haematite]

Well, all of us have moments when they don't feel to be themselves, but still it's better to rule yourself and your actions but not to let to be leaded by your egoself/s... I don't accuse you, I respect you as I respect every other creature...I just think you could become one - still it's more stable in that way and you should learn how to be a nice guy without being a schizo - I'm sure you can because that kind of state is only in your mind, but your soul is just one and it's perfect[]
Be safe

[Kiflarer]

thanks but still i do all by myself just it feels good to have someone to be behind me no matter what... this Rayko is a real good guy just he has the currage to take on bullys... i dont... he did get over his killing period... dont realy look at me as schizofrenic i dont even know if its true... it all started like this

i got bullied allot and couldnt find a way out... so i decided to make a spiritual replica of myself couse i never had much fantasy so i didnt wanna make up another guy so i made myself but i edited his inner i made him have better courage n stuff and i teached him some stuff it realy was like he never been to this world i dunno how to explain it did i realy create him or did he come from another dimension or so??? so after teaching him good things hes just someone to fill me up with the things i dont have... u see? i aint realy schizo its just easyer to explain to u guys what i kind of experiense by saying i am schizo

[Moonburn33]

What really frustrates me is that people accept all of these new age ideas as fact without questioning them.  Haematite, by saying that we are supposed to do such and such and that the universe is connected in this and this a way, is inane.  you state it like it's a basis of fact, when it's a pretty controversial and abstract, out-there idea.

you say things like it's matter of fact, when in reality-  you haven't arrived at any of your conclusions through sound reason.  screw intuition when all you get is a bunch of mushy, useless crap that can't help anyone.  Intuition is the apprehension of ideas or concepts without the use of reasoning faculties.  that doesn't mean that you should discount your mind altogether.  no part of yourself is more important than another- including your soul- which you seem to think is hot stuff.

[Haematite]

Kiflarer, I haven't been in position like yours, but still I can say: do what you think is right - it could has some reason for that - it's your "path" anyway....

Moonburn33

quote: What really frustrates me is that people accept all of these new age ideas as fact without questioning them. Haematite, by saying that we are supposed to do such and such and that the universe is connected in this and this a way, is inane. you state it like it's a basis of fact, when it's a pretty controversial and abstract, out-there idea.

you say things like it's matter of fact, when in reality- you haven't arrived at any of your conclusions through sound reason. screw intuition when all you get is a bunch of mushy, useless crap that can't help anyone. Intuition is the apprehension of ideas or concepts without the use of reasoning faculties. that doesn't mean that you should discount your mind altogether. no part of yourself is more important than another- including your soul- which you seem to think is hot stuff.

Well, I do believe in what I said and I'm sorry you can't get it. And yes, my soul IS "hot stuff" for me because when my body will rot in the grave my soul will remain. And I'm curious what does person like you (who doesn't believe in intuition and non-touchable proofs) do here where people deal mostly with non-material stuff.
Be safe

[Moonburn33]

i never said i did not think that inuition was valid- i just said, in a rather haphazard way that i thought that most people have an inbalanced proportion of themselves devoted to it.  

just because your body isn't immortal doesn't make it unimportant- it makes the time you spend in it that much more valuable.  don't automatically assume that just because something is at the mercy of time and reality that it isn't worth anything- or that it isn't equal to those things that have more... staying power.

[Haematite]

Well, I'm a creature made to be ruled by intuition - that's my way of perceiving everything. Some people are guided by their logic - they need to see and think over all the facts and the information, but I skip the shapes and I don't need to see them, because I feel them. Both ways are correct - it depends which one is more sutable for you.

And I don't think my body is unimportant - it's just in serve for my soul needs because it's here to mediate between rough matter with it's slow vibrations and my ethereal body. My body is my "flat" here in this life and I'm taking care of it in purpose to follow my path properly. You see, I'm not here to serve to my body needs... I'm here to develop myself as much as I can trying to do my best, to take the right decisions - in the name of my soul. It's good for a person to be in harmony on all their levels, to set everything on it's right place...to be wise enough to know how to act. And that control should be exercised by your soul because it's the guiding power, the sparkle, the sacral core that gives meaning to everything...without it our bodys would be like vegetating dead matter.

[Moonburn33]

this thread has gotten so off topic.  

my contention is that a balanced personality will better express your true self- you need an intellect to discern what things your intuition picks up are correct.

[Haematite]

That's right. For me a balanced person is someone who is capable of organazing themselves properly in all levels.
And of course I don't intend to be blindly rulled by my intuition - otherwise it looses it's point.
be safe

[Kiflarer]

Be carfull with this one!!!here it goes


Ritual:make a hole in your finger make a lil blood come out put it on the persons forehead you wanna cast the spell on and say the spell:
By Lucifer And Nyx I call The Forbidden Powers To Cast This Spell,
And Cast It Well
Curse This Person Till In Hell
On This (month) Night
The Stars Shine Bright
Let Lucifer And Nyx Come Down And Take This Mortal Soul

BE CAREFULL WHEN YOU CAST IT!!!!! COUSE REMEMBER EVERYTHING YOU DO COMES BACK 3 TIMES AS HARD!!!!!